Non GMO foods

[ripvanwinkle]

Last Sunday I was invited to a potluck BBQ. There was about 20 people there. Had a nice time. Ages ranged from 25 and up. Food and conversation was really good. During the course of the BBQ, the subject of GMO food came up. One of then younger couples was quite firm on buying non-gmo products.

I chimed in by asking what products they thought were not genetically modified and they listed chicken, beef, corn, wheat etc. Most modern foods. Being sort of a contrarian myself and doesn't mind poking the bear for a rise once in awhile, I said probably none of this food we've eaten today is in it's original form from 150+ yrs ago.

The sweet corn on the cob, tomato's, beans, peas, pasta. All have been modified for disease resistance, grow bigger, faster by crossing one type with another than it was back in the 1800's.
The chicken and beef has been cross bred for faster growing, bigger, tastier, not as wiry as it was back in the old days.

They kind of had a dumbfounded look on their faces when they realized everything over the last 100+ yrs has been modified. They conversation went on for quite a while and I went home.

That's the fallacy of the gmo debate most people don't take in consideration. Everything has been modified.

[whoisjohngalt]

I would love to hear from scientists on this board. I remember asking HoneyBBQ about it awhile ago

[Deleted]

Cross pollinated is not the same as molecular manipulation and splicing in a laboratory. 

Its an interacial marriage vs. dr. Frankenstein. 

[gooddecisions]

Aug 2, 2017 4:40:45 GMT -5 oped said:

Cross pollinated is not the same as molecular manipulation and splicing in a laboratory. 

Its an interacial marriage vs. dr. Frankenstein. 

This. I am not one to get in a debate about GMOs, but anyone who is, should definitely read about what genetically engineering dna means. You already have a hint. It is not cross pollination or traditional "it could happen in nature" cross-breeding. By definition, it does not occur by mating or natural recombination.

[weltschmerz]

Aug 1, 2017 23:48:06 GMT -5 ripvanwinkle said:

Last Sunday I was invited to a potluck BBQ. There was about 20 people there. Had a nice time. Ages ranged from 25 and up. Food and conversation was really good. During the course of the BBQ, the subject of GMO food came up. One of then younger couples was quite firm on buying non-gmo products.

I chimed in by asking what products they thought were not genetically modified and they listed chicken, beef, corn, wheat etc. Most modern foods. Being sort of a contrarian myself and doesn't mind poking the bear for a rise once in awhile, I said probably none of this food we've eaten today is in it's original form from 150+ yrs ago.

The sweet corn on the cob, tomato's, beans, peas, pasta. All have been modified for disease resistance, grow bigger, faster by crossing one type with another than it was back in the 1800's.
The chicken and beef has been cross bred for faster growing, bigger, tastier, not as wiry as it was back in the old days.

They kind of had a dumbfounded look on their faces when they realized everything over the last 100+ yrs has been modified. They conversation went on for quite a while and I went home.

That's the fallacy of the gmo debate most people don't take in consideration. Everything has been modified.

Next time, tell them every single banana is an infertile clone. Bananas in their original form are inedible.

[weltschmerz]

piecubed.co.uk/bananas-facts/

[thyme4change]

Young people are stupid. And principled.

[HoneyBBQ]

Aug 2, 2017 0:03:47 GMT -5 whoisjohngalt said:

I would love to hear from scientists on this board. I remember asking HoneyBBQ about it awhile ago

I can't remember what I said... lol.

My thoughts were that GMO and modifications were going to help solve hunger problems in the world. I don't think that's happened.

What HAS seemed to happen is to make tomatoes, fruit, etc perfect spheres so they look more appetizing in the US markets. However, it ends up with bland and tasteless food. Those monster strawberries look pretty but don't taste nearly as yummy as the tiny bite sized ones that grow in my back yard wild. One of the best thing about traveling abroad is to eat FRUIT that tastes like FRUIT. 

I don't believe GMO foods hurt us, but I do buy organic when possible, and especially the ugly misshapen foods that taste better.

[thyme4change]

Aug 7, 2017 13:31:12 GMT -5 HoneyBBQ said:

Aug 2, 2017 0:03:47 GMT -5 whoisjohngalt said:

I would love to hear from scientists on this board. I remember asking HoneyBBQ about it awhile ago

I can't remember what I said... lol.

My thoughts were that GMO and modifications were going to help solve hunger problems in the world. I don't think that's happened.

What HAS seemed to happen is to make tomatoes, fruit, etc perfect spheres so they look more appetizing in the US markets. However, it ends up with bland and tasteless food. Those monster strawberries look pretty but don't taste nearly as yummy as the tiny bite sized ones that grow in my back yard wild. One of the best thing about traveling abroad is to eat FRUIT that tastes like FRUIT. 

I don't believe GMO foods hurt us, but I do buy organic when possible, and especially the ugly misshapen foods that taste better.

Strawberries are so terrible now. It pisses me off.

[Opti]

Aug 2, 2017 9:04:03 GMT -5 @anne81 said:

Wheat has been bred to be quite different than it was fifty years ago and this is causing problems for people. So yes, a lot of foods have changed but that doesn't mean it's not an issue.

www.providence.org/blog/2016/10/wheat-sensitivity-goes-beyond-gut
www.ueg.eu/press/releases/ueg-press-release/article/new-study-links-protein-in-wheat-to-the-inflammation-of-chronic-health-conditions/

This is true as well. Some of the older varieties are healthier if harder to grow.