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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2017 19:24:48 GMT -5
Don't think it's possible to know what exactly happened. DW and I were actually talking about this topic last night and my stance is if I am diagnosed with something like this I will check out before becoming a burden. Will I have the stones to actually do it? Dunno, maybe someday I'll find out. Dh has said the same thing and it is something I fear and really just dread the possibility of.
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Post by empress of self-improvement on May 12, 2017 19:35:00 GMT -5
DH has already told me if he ever got hooked up to life support, "accidentally" trip over the plug. Currently he is ok with being alive but when he deteriorates further, not sure what he will want to do. He says kill him and boil his skull since I collect them but I am so not stinking up my house for that. And I don't have the equipment for it anyway. Sorry... You collect human skulls? Sadly, not authentic ones, DH's would be the first. I collect replicas. I should take a picture of my front window and post it. I do think my neighbors believe I'm a little "off".
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Post by Virgil Showlion on May 13, 2017 12:07:03 GMT -5
There are a lot of right to life and religious sources I'm not really trusting in searching for this. That CNN article was the only hard core stat I could find. It is difficult to get actual stats on something like this but it doesn't stop some from using "my best guess" or "from my circle of friend" numbers. Precisely where I'm coming from. Over the years, I've sampled the opinions of dozens of people, and a high percentage of them have made the claim when the subject of Alzheimer's and dementia comes up. Hence, "I'd bet..." and I obviously expect to win that bet. While the ratio of people who fill suicide prescriptions to people who carry out the act is a fascinating bit of trivia, it has zero relevance to what "I'd bet..." on. I'm sorry if that wasn't clear in my previous reply.
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Post by billisonboard on May 13, 2017 12:14:39 GMT -5
... I'm sorry if that wasn't clear in my previous reply. Wasn't an issue of clarity in my mind.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on May 13, 2017 12:15:26 GMT -5
Sorry... You collect human skulls? Sadly, not authentic ones, DH's would be the first. I collect replicas. I should take a picture of my front window and post it. I do think my neighbors believe I'm a little "off". Out of morbid curiosity: Are they replicas of the skulls of famous personalities? Are they embellished or decorated? I always knew some people had to love skulls because of decorative skull frescoes in ossuaries, the Capuchin Crypt, etc.
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Post by empress of self-improvement on May 13, 2017 17:18:20 GMT -5
No, no celebrity skulls, although I would love to have Freddy Mercury's skull. Just plain generic skulls. I like skulls and flames. I live outside of Salem, MA. We are not known for normal!!! Especially at Halloween. I do have a couple of small skulls that have glitter on them. I would love to visit the ossuaries. Alas, I'm poor and DH refuses to travel farther than 20 feet from a bathroom. So not going to see them anytime soon. I did see a couple on some Rick Steves episodes. That's the closest I'm going to get. I would love a skull chandelier. I saw one somewhere, not that I remember where, but it looked cool. My ceilings are only about 9-10 feet so I'd be knocking my head on it like I do with the stupid light fixture in my kitchen.
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Post by Tennesseer on May 13, 2017 17:50:52 GMT -5
No, no celebrity skulls, although I would love to have Freddy Mercury's skull. Just plain generic skulls. I like skulls and flames. I live outside of Salem, MA. We are not known for normal!!! Especially at Halloween. I do have a couple of small skulls that have glitter on them. I would love to visit the ossuaries. Alas, I'm poor and DH refuses to travel farther than 20 feet from a bathroom. So not going to see them anytime soon. I did see a couple on some Rick Steves episodes. That's the closest I'm going to get. I would love a skull chandelier. I saw one somewhere, not that I remember where, but it looked cool. My ceilings are only about 9-10 feet so I'd be knocking my head on it like I do with the stupid light fixture in my kitchen. Heaven. She's in heaven. And her heart beats so that she can hardly speak Paris catacombsOfficially called les carrières de Paris or "the quarries of Paris," the Catacombs of Paris is a network of underground tunnels and rooms that used to be Roman-era limestone quarries. In the late 1700s, Paris was suffering from diseases caused by improper burials and mass graves in church cemeteries. Local authorities decided that they would remove thousands of bones and place them stacked in the abandoned underground quarries. Today, the entrance to the catacombs is restricted and only a small portion of the 186 miles (300 km) worth of underground tunnels is accessible to the public. Secret entrances to the Catacombs, however, dotted Paris - urban explorers have found access via sewers, manholes and even the Paris Metro subway system. link
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Post by dee27 on May 13, 2017 20:21:06 GMT -5
Interesting article
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Post by weltschmerz on May 13, 2017 20:39:03 GMT -5
No, no celebrity skulls, although I would love to have Freddy Mercury's skull. Just plain generic skulls. I like skulls and flames. I live outside of Salem, MA. We are not known for normal!!! Especially at Halloween. I do have a couple of small skulls that have glitter on them. I would love to visit the ossuaries. Alas, I'm poor and DH refuses to travel farther than 20 feet from a bathroom. So not going to see them anytime soon. I did see a couple on some Rick Steves episodes. That's the closest I'm going to get. I would love a skull chandelier. I saw one somewhere, not that I remember where, but it looked cool. My ceilings are only about 9-10 feet so I'd be knocking my head on it like I do with the stupid light fixture in my kitchen. Why don't you go without him?
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Post by NoNamePerson on May 13, 2017 21:57:47 GMT -5
@tennesseeri saw a special on this long ago. Think it was on PBS or one of "those" channels. It was fascinating. Would love to see the "real" thing,
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Post by Virgil Showlion on May 13, 2017 22:21:59 GMT -5
No, no celebrity skulls, although I would love to have Freddy Mercury's skull. Just plain generic skulls. I like skulls and flames. I live outside of Salem, MA. We are not known for normal!!! Especially at Halloween. I do have a couple of small skulls that have glitter on them. I would love to visit the ossuaries. Alas, I'm poor and DH refuses to travel farther than 20 feet from a bathroom. So not going to see them anytime soon. I did see a couple on some Rick Steves episodes. That's the closest I'm going to get. I would love a skull chandelier. I saw one somewhere, not that I remember where, but it looked cool. My ceilings are only about 9-10 feet so I'd be knocking my head on it like I do with the stupid light fixture in my kitchen. It's macabre but intriguing. I don't like skulls. I've got one literally inside my head but I still find them preternaturally creepy. Kind of like how we have a pound of pubic hair literally growing out of us at any give time, but we (most of us, at least) squirm at the thought of touching that little mass of pubic hair in the corner of the shower.
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Post by tractor on May 14, 2017 8:17:56 GMT -5
To contribute to further thread digression. I collect real skulls, I have everything from a mouse to a Moose, no human skulls, yet. I've told my wife I want to be made into a skeleton after I die. So far she's not buying into it.
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Post by NancysSummerSip on May 14, 2017 13:37:56 GMT -5
Hopefully, my last wishes will be honoured. Just kill me, if I'm a drooling vegetable who doesn't recognise her own family and has to be fed and my diaper changed. Amen, sistah. We treat our old and sick pets better at the end of their lives than we treat our fellow humans. I am all for not taking up any more space on this planet if the times comes when I am no longer a contributing member of society. If I don't know up from down, or one day from the next, it is time to go. Science can have my body for spare parts so another may live and my brain to use to further their work into what causes AD, dementia and other such diseases. That would be my final contribution.
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Post by weltschmerz on May 14, 2017 14:28:53 GMT -5
Hopefully, my last wishes will be honoured. Just kill me, if I'm a drooling vegetable who doesn't recognise her own family and has to be fed and my diaper changed. Amen, sistah. We treat our old and sick pets better at the end of their lives than we treat our fellow humans. I am all for not taking up any more space on this planet if the times comes when I am no longer a contributing member of society. If I don't know up from down, or one day from the next, it is time to go. Science can have my body for spare parts so another may live and my brain to use to further their work into what causes AD, dementia and other such diseases. That would be my final contribution. I don't trust my son. He said he will NEVER let me go. ("Advance directives? What advance directives? She had none. Do everything in your power to keep her alive!") I suspect he'll keep my dessicated body in the attic like Norman Bates in Psycho.
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Post by NoNamePerson on May 14, 2017 15:25:23 GMT -5
Amen, sistah. We treat our old and sick pets better at the end of their lives than we treat our fellow humans. I am all for not taking up any more space on this planet if the times comes when I am no longer a contributing member of society. If I don't know up from down, or one day from the next, it is time to go. Science can have my body for spare parts so another may live and my brain to use to further their work into what causes AD, dementia and other such diseases. That would be my final contribution. I don't trust my son. He said he will NEVER let me go. ("Advance directives? What advance directives? She had none. Do everything in your power to keep her alive!") I suspect he'll keep my dessicated body in the attic like Norman Bates in Psycho. My son will probably drop kick me down the nearest embankment.
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Post by NancysSummerSip on May 14, 2017 19:47:27 GMT -5
Amen, sistah. We treat our old and sick pets better at the end of their lives than we treat our fellow humans. I am all for not taking up any more space on this planet if the times comes when I am no longer a contributing member of society. If I don't know up from down, or one day from the next, it is time to go. Science can have my body for spare parts so another may live and my brain to use to further their work into what causes AD, dementia and other such diseases. That would be my final contribution. I don't trust my son. He said he will NEVER let me go. ("Advance directives? What advance directives? She had none. Do everything in your power to keep her alive!") I suspect he'll keep my dessicated body in the attic like Norman Bates in Psycho. Sounds like one of my brothers, who said he would keep my mom alive no matter the cost or the agony. Easy for him to say - he wasn't the one here watching her die bit by bit. I was. Fortunately, I had power of attorney and she had advance directive in writing. And as for the cost of keeping her alive an additional few weeks - frankly, he didn't and doesn't have the money for that, never mind how much it would have prolonged her severe suffering.
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Post by weltschmerz on May 14, 2017 21:38:20 GMT -5
It wouldn't cost my son a penny....and that bothers me.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on May 15, 2017 7:30:37 GMT -5
I don't believe in euthanasia, but even I wouldn't strive to preserve the life of a family member in a vegetative or near-vegetative state. And if extraordinary measures such as respirators, IV feeding, dialysis, etc. are needed to preserve life, I'd cut off any family member who didn't expressly want to be kept alive.
Life is hallowed, but when the body has failed, the body has failed, and it profits the spirit nothing.
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Post by empress of self-improvement on May 16, 2017 19:48:27 GMT -5
No, no celebrity skulls, although I would love to have Freddy Mercury's skull. Just plain generic skulls. I like skulls and flames. I live outside of Salem, MA. We are not known for normal!!! Especially at Halloween. I do have a couple of small skulls that have glitter on them. I would love to visit the ossuaries. Alas, I'm poor and DH refuses to travel farther than 20 feet from a bathroom. So not going to see them anytime soon. I did see a couple on some Rick Steves episodes. That's the closest I'm going to get. I would love a skull chandelier. I saw one somewhere, not that I remember where, but it looked cool. My ceilings are only about 9-10 feet so I'd be knocking my head on it like I do with the stupid light fixture in my kitchen. Why don't you go without him? I can't leave him home alone for an extended period of time and I can't afford live in care for him. He has graduated to using a wheelchair in the afternoons now which means he will soon be in it permanently. God forbid I try to get any of his brothers to help because then he just has a world class temper tantrum.
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Post by zibazinski on May 16, 2017 20:26:56 GMT -5
Why don't you go without him? I can't leave him home alone for an extended period of time and I can't afford live in care for him. He has graduated to using a wheelchair in the afternoons now which means he will soon be in it permanently. God forbid I try to get any of his brothers to help because then he just has a world class temper tantrum. So? It's a control issue. He'll live if someone else watches him while you get a break. DH hated it when I went to Florida to find us a place to stay for the winter because someone else cared for him. It took me three days to unwind I was so tightly wound up.
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Post by empress of self-improvement on May 17, 2017 14:24:46 GMT -5
It's not control. It's a "I really don't feel like finding another dead body in my home issue". One was enough, thank you very much.
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Post by zibazinski on May 17, 2017 18:55:03 GMT -5
I understand that. I found DH.
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Post by toomuchreality on May 17, 2017 23:51:25 GMT -5
I can't leave him home alone for an extended period of time and I can't afford live in care for him. He has graduated to using a wheelchair in the afternoons now which means he will soon be in it permanently. God forbid I try to get any of his brothers to help because then he just has a world class temper tantrum. So? It's a control issue. He'll live if someone else watches him while you get a break. DH hated it when I went to Florida to find us a place to stay for the winter because someone else cared for him. It took me three days to unwind I was so tightly wound up.I bet it did you a world of good.
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Post by zibazinski on May 18, 2017 6:29:06 GMT -5
So? It's a control issue. He'll live if someone else watches him while you get a break. DH hated it when I went to Florida to find us a place to stay for the winter because someone else cared for him. It took me three days to unwind I was so tightly wound up.I bet it did you a world of good. It did but my kids were pretty freaked out at the shape I was in.
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