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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Mar 3, 2017 12:39:32 GMT -5
the other aspect of this stuff that doesn't seem to be highlighted is that these reports are given to trump weeks before and nothing is done. only after that is there the media involvement.
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Post by swamp on Mar 3, 2017 15:17:19 GMT -5
in public. and didn't lie about it.
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Post by Tennesseer on Mar 3, 2017 16:46:44 GMT -5
Was McCaskill testifying under oath in front of Congress when she said she never met the ambassador?
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Post by swamp on Mar 3, 2017 16:49:51 GMT -5
Was McCaskill testifying under oath in front of Congress when she said she never met the ambassador? who cares?! She lied!! Witch hunt, emails and bengahzi!!!
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Mar 3, 2017 17:09:21 GMT -5
It's time to go after the Obama shadow government conspirators and most importantly: LOCK HER UP! Trump will hopefully see he was wrong to play nice.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Mar 3, 2017 17:10:24 GMT -5
The "Russia" narrative is based upon a fake news story and it needs to be addressed and put to bed.
It is an Alinsky plan which was set up and left in place by the Obama regime for Democrats to find and leverage as part of a literal coup attempt.
They will keep repeating this narrative until Trump exposes it for what it is: an attempt to deny Trump full access to the power he was legitimately loaned by the People.
At worst, they will use it to delay the cabinet confirmation process and slow the Trump agenda, which is the People's agenda.
At worst, it will lead to Trump's resignation or impeachment.
Don't think the GOP is not in on this. They LOVE big government. Trump was right during the campaign: Trillions of dollars were at stake in this campaign, and now it's down to the wire for the establishment.
The GOP wants ObamaCare. They want endless wars and interventions. They want the regulatory state. They want judicial over-reach-- it provides them cover for things they don't have the political stomach to do.
So, the coup rolls on-- they are trying to wear Trump down. They are trying to get him to do, say, or go along with an unacceptable policy position because they recognize that there's ONE obstacle to taking Trump out: You and I. Trump's loyal base of support is his wall of protection. If they can divide us from Trump, if they can divorce Trump from his following by forcing him to compromise on a critical issue-- ***or even make it appear as though he has done so*** they know that's the key to taking him out.
THIS WILL NOT EVER HAPPEN.
We've read Alinsky, too. And they're doing our job for us- marginalizing themselves, and de-legitimizing themselves. Their constant, unhinged, lunatic attacks on Trump are BACKFIRING- BIGLY.
EVERY flare up of the insane left, every attack only wakes up more people and exposes the political elites awakening ever more people who have had ENOUGH.
We are watching.
We are vigilant.
We will defend America from all enemies- foreign AND DOMESTIC.
The last gasp of the old order will be difficult, perhaps even violent at times. It will require our constant attention, and active involvement.
Let President Trump know you support him- take a moment to do that now. Call your representatives, Call your Senators. Let your state officials and local government know where you stand. Tell them in no uncertain terms: 2018 and 2020 are coming. You're not buying this garbage. You will hold them accountable at the ballot box.
THEY WILL TAKE NOTE.
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Mar 3, 2017 17:14:13 GMT -5
Who the hell do you think you're talking to?
Press the call button....
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Post by billisonboard on Mar 3, 2017 17:16:54 GMT -5
The "Russia" narrative is based upon a fake news story and it needs to be addressed and put to bed. ... A full unbiased investigation needs to take place so it can be resolved.
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Post by Tennesseer on Mar 3, 2017 17:56:06 GMT -5
"We will defend America from all enemies- foreign AND DOMESTIC."
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Post by dezailoooooo on Mar 3, 2017 18:18:44 GMT -5
The "Russia" narrative is based upon a fake news story and it needs to be addressed and put to bed. It is an Alinsky plan which was set up and left in place by the Obama regime for Democrats to find and leverage as part of a literal coup attempt. They will keep repeating this narrative until Trump exposes it for what it is: an attempt to deny Trump full access to the power he was legitimately loaned by the People. At worst, they will use it to delay the cabinet confirmation process and slow the Trump agenda, which is the People's agenda. At worst, it will lead to Trump's resignation or impeachment. Don't think the GOP is not in on this. They LOVE big government. Trump was right during the campaign: Trillions of dollars were at stake in this campaign, and now it's down to the wire for the establishment. The GOP wants ObamaCare. They want endless wars and interventions. They want the regulatory state. They want judicial over-reach-- it provides them cover for things they don't have the political stomach to do. So, the coup rolls on-- they are trying to wear Trump down. They are trying to get him to do, say, or go along with an unacceptable policy position because they recognize that there's ONE obstacle to taking Trump out: You and I. Trump's loyal base of support is his wall of protection. If they can divide us from Trump, if they can divorce Trump from his following by forcing him to compromise on a critical issue-- ***or even make it appear as though he has done so*** they know that's the key to taking him out. THIS WILL NOT EVER HAPPEN. We've read Alinsky, too. And they're doing our job for us- marginalizing themselves, and de-legitimizing themselves. Their constant, unhinged, lunatic attacks on Trump are BACKFIRING- BIGLY. EVERY flare up of the insane left, every attack only wakes up more people and exposes the political elites awakening ever more people who have had ENOUGH. We are watching. We are vigilant. We will defend America from all enemies- foreign AND DOMESTIC. The last gasp of the old order will be difficult, perhaps even violent at times. It will require our constant attention, and active involvement. Let President Trump know you support him- take a moment to do that now. Call your representatives, Call your Senators. Let your state officials and local government know where you stand. Tell them in no uncertain terms: 2018 and 2020 are coming. You're not buying this garbage. You will hold them accountable at the ballot box. THEY WILL TAKE NOTE. The Donald is getting back all that he brought on himself...his lies before Congress are just the tip of the iceberg...when the GOP turns on their own..u know the man has done much wrong...no matter what Paul is claiming...the best thing for the country, both parties...the world itself is if the Donald is removed from office so we as a country can move on from this disaster he has brought on himself.
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Post by billisonboard on Mar 3, 2017 19:04:52 GMT -5
... ...the best thing for the country, both parties...the world itself is if the Donald is removed from office so we as a country can move on from this disaster he has brought on himself. I disagree. Removing him from office now would be premature. He was duly elected and this situation must be played out. A budget must be proposed. Congress must act on that proposal. President Trump must respond. A tax plan must be proposed and acted upon by Congress. The ACA issue must be resolved. More must happen on immigration. The American people must pass judgement on all of this in the mid term election. Then the decision should be made on what to do concerning President Trump.
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 3, 2017 19:34:15 GMT -5
Let President Trump know you support him- take a moment to do that now. Call your representatives, Call your Senators. Let your state officials and local government know where you stand. Tell them in no uncertain terms: 2018 and 2020 are coming. You're not buying this garbage. You will hold them accountable at the ballot box. THEY WILL TAKE NOTE. i will do no such fucking thing. typically i give my president the benefit of the doubt, and that is as much as he can expect of me. this time, however, THIS president, does not even get that. if i were to call, it would be to encourage them to precisely the opposite of what you suggest.
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Mar 3, 2017 19:36:00 GMT -5
... ...the best thing for the country, both parties...the world itself is if the Donald is removed from office so we as a country can move on from this disaster he has brought on himself. I disagree. Removing him from office now would be premature. He was duly elected and this situation must be played out. A budget must be proposed. Congress must act on that proposal. President Trump must respond. A tax plan must be proposed and acted upon by Congress. The ACA issue must be resolved. More must happen on immigration. The American people must pass judgement on all of this in the mid term election. Then the decision should be made on what to do concerning President Trump. Maybe, it depends on what the investigation finds.
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Post by Tennesseer on Mar 3, 2017 20:35:23 GMT -5
Let President Trump know you support him- take a moment to do that now. Call your representatives, Call your Senators. Let your state officials and local government know where you stand. Tell them in no uncertain terms: 2018 and 2020 are coming. You're not buying this garbage. You will hold them accountable at the ballot box. THEY WILL TAKE NOTE. i will do no such fucking thing. typically i give my president the benefit of the doubt, and that is as much as he can expect of me. this time, however, THIS president, does not even get that. if i were to call, it would be to encourage them to precisely the opposite of what you suggest. The poster seems to believe 80% of the country thinks trump is doing a fine job. Nothing could be further from the truth..
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Post by mmhmm on Mar 3, 2017 21:14:00 GMT -5
... The last gasp of the old order will be difficult, perhaps even violent at times. It will require our constant attention, and active involvement. Let President Trump know you support him- take a moment to do that now. Call your representatives, Call your Senators. Let your state officials and local government know where you stand. Tell them in no uncertain terms: 2018 and 2020 are coming. You're not buying this garbage. You will hold them accountable at the ballot box. THEY WILL TAKE NOTE. I'm afraid I can't do that in good conscience. He's going to have to show me something first. So far, he's batting 0.
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Post by dezailoooooo on Mar 3, 2017 22:40:44 GMT -5
... The last gasp of the old order will be difficult, perhaps even violent at times. It will require our constant attention, and active involvement. Let President Trump know you support him- take a moment to do that now. Call your representatives, Call your Senators. Let your state officials and local government know where you stand. Tell them in no uncertain terms: 2018 and 2020 are coming. You're not buying this garbage. You will hold them accountable at the ballot box. THEY WILL TAKE NOTE. I'm afraid I can't do that in good conscience. He's going to have to show me something first. So far, he's batting 0. isn't there a negative available? .00001
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Mar 3, 2017 22:59:08 GMT -5
This seems as good a thread as any to ask:
For those tossing around words like "treason" and "impeachment", what exactly do you believe an investigation into... (I'm not even sure what to call it)... "campaign collusion" between Pres. Trump's campaign and (I'm guessing) the Russian government might turn up by way of actionable allegations?
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Post by mmhmm on Mar 4, 2017 0:02:41 GMT -5
I'm afraid I can't do that in good conscience. He's going to have to show me something first. So far, he's batting 0. isn't there a negative available? .00001 Nope, not as I see it. I'm not swayed by words, no matter from which side of the political aisle they present. I look at actions and decide for myself whether I find them positive or negative actions.
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Post by dezailoooooo on Mar 4, 2017 0:24:49 GMT -5
This seems as good a thread as any to ask: For those tossing around words like "treason" and "impeachment", what exactly do you believe an investigation into... (I'm not even sure what to call it)... "campaign collusion" between Pres. Trump's campaign and (I'm guessing) the Russian government might turn up by way of actionable allegations? If it could ever come out that the Donald or his representatives were in touch and knowledge of Russian involvement..knowing or encouraging...even just by smiles...a vodka downing ....in our electorial process for what ever reason...and it would be known that it would be to help one candidate over another...that would be treason big time in my opinion. If it could ever come out that while Obama was still POTUS representatives of the Donald, on their own or by suggestion..even inadvertently by semi accident,..while in office the Donald to know one in partculer , just musing out loud while folks are present... " boy wouldn't it be a good thing tp let Putin know that these diplomate expulsions aren't forever...hope he doesn't over react...same with those dumb sanctions on the Russians...we are going to have to visit all that stuff soon after I assume office" and one of those presenjt picked up on that and ran to a Russian whatever and let the cat out of the bag regarding the Presidents elect thought...while Obama still the President....that to me is treason. Now if Donald asked Obama for permission to talk to someone ahead of his swearing in and got a ok..that is different but does,'t seem he did on this one.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Mar 4, 2017 11:10:16 GMT -5
Care to comment on Schumer, Pelosi, 30 other Democrats or the 100s of times including 22 times last year? Or...this???
Wow!
Turns out that Obama in October of 2016 sought and got a secret order from the secret FISA court to tap the phones of Donald Trump and his colleauges in Trump Tower as well as use our Intelligence agencies to secretly search their computers to dig up dirt.
Now, remember what the FISA Court is. It's a secret court that stands for FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE SURVEILANCE ACT COURT.
It's narrow purpose is to authorize wire taps and surveillance of terrorist organizations (like ISIS and al Qaeda), not to authorize wire taps and secret computer searches of the Republican nominee for President.
This is exactly what Edward Snowden warned about.
This is way worse than Watergate or any scandal by any American President in U.S. history.
Where is the ACLU on this?
Obama and his henchmen should go to prison for a very long time for using these KGB tactics (the powers of our intelligence agencies) to attempt to sabotage an opponent's Presidential campaign; and then try to sabotage Trump's administration by dumping whatever they found (including putting together that bogus dossier) into the media.
This is a violation of the Espionage Act, the Government Secrets Act, the Patriot Act, not to mention the Constitution's Fourth Amendment protections against "unreasonable searches," and many other federal laws designed to protect American citizens against exactly this kind of activity.
It is unimaginably dangerous for the President of the United States (Obama) to be be using our Intelligence Agencies as an opposition research operation against his political opponents.
This is Stalinesque.
Now remember, Obama thought he could get away with this secret wire tapping and investigation of Trump in October because the Dems thought there was no chance Trump would win. So there would be no accountability for Obama for this illegal investigation. That was the expectation.
They also assumed they would find all kinds of dirt on Trump. Evidently, they found nothing. So they came up with that bogus dossier and dumped that into the media (even though this so-called dossier contained provable falsehoods).
Obama was (and still is) the real threat to our democracy -- not Trump or the Russians.
We need a full investigation of this by Congress and the U.S. Justice Department.
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Post by Tennesseer on Mar 4, 2017 11:15:00 GMT -5
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Mar 4, 2017 11:25:56 GMT -5
This seems as good a thread as any to ask: For those tossing around words like "treason" and "impeachment", what exactly do you believe an investigation into... (I'm not even sure what to call it)... "campaign collusion" between Pres. Trump's campaign and (I'm guessing) the Russian government might turn up by way of actionable allegations? If it could ever come out that the Donald or his representatives were in touch and knowledge of Russian involvement..knowing or encouraging...even just by smiles...a vodka downing ....in our electorial process for what ever reason...and it would be known that it would be to help one candidate over another...that would be treason big time in my opinion. If it could ever come out that while Obama was still POTUS representatives of the Donald, on their own or by suggestion..even inadvertently by semi accident,..while in office the Donald to know one in partculer , just musing out loud while folks are present... " boy wouldn't it be a good thing tp let Putin know that these diplomate expulsions aren't forever...hope he doesn't over react...same with those dumb sanctions on the Russians...we are going to have to visit all that stuff soon after I assume office" and one of those presenjt picked up on that and ran to a Russian whatever and let the cat out of the bag regarding the Presidents elect thought...while Obama still the President....that to me is treason. Now if Donald asked Obama for permission to talk to someone ahead of his swearing in and got a ok..that is different but does,'t seem he did on this one. So, if I understand this correctly, if somebody in Pres. Trump's campaign was downing a few drinks with a Russian official, and the official stated "You know what would be great? If somebody leaked e-mails from the DNC server to show everyone how in the bag they are for Hillary Clinton." and the campaign man's reply was to laugh and agree, that would constitute treason? Furthermore, if somebody in Pres. Trump's campaign got loose-lipped in polite company and let it slip to a Russian official that Pres. Trump believed the sanctions on Russia and expulsion of the Russian diplomats were terrible ideas, something he'd revisit after he was sworn in, that would constitute treason? You realize it wasn't any secret Pres. Trump didn't approve of the sanctions or the expulsions and that he was keen on establishing friendlier relations with the Russians?
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Mar 4, 2017 11:27:20 GMT -5
Care to comment on Schumer, Pelosi, 30 other Democrats or the 100s of times including 22 times last year? Or...this Wow! Turns out that Obama in October of 2016 sought and got a secret order from the secret FISA court to tap the phones of Donald Trump and his colleauges in Trump Tower as well as use our Intelligence agencies to secretly search their computers to dig up dirt. Now, remember what the FISA Court is. It's a secret court that stands for FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE SURVEILANCE ACT COURT. It's narrow purpose is to authorize wire taps and surveillance of terrorist organizations (like ISIS and al Qaeda), not to authorize wire taps and secret computer searches of the Republican nominee for President. This is exactly what Edward Snowden warned about. This is way worse than Watergate or any scandal by any American President in U.S. history. Where is the ACLU on this? Obama and his henchmen should go to prison for a very long time for using these KGB tactics (the powers of our intelligence agencies) to attempt to sabotage an opponent's Presidential campaign; and then try to sabotage Trump's administration by dumping whatever they found (including putting together that bogus dossier) into the media. This is a violation of the Espionage Act, the Government Secrets Act, the Patriot Act, not to mention the Constitution's Fourth Amendment protections against "unreasonable searches," and many other federal laws designed to protect American citizens against exactly this kind of activity. It is unimaginably dangerous for the President of the United States (Obama) to be be using our Intelligence Agencies as an opposition research operation against his political opponents. This is Stalinesque. Now remember, Obama thought he could get away with this secret wire tapping and investigation of Trump in October because the Dems thought there was no chance Trump would win. So there would be no accountability for Obama for this illegal investigation. That was the expectation. They also assumed they would find all kinds of dirt on Trump. Evidently, they found nothing. So they came up with that bogus dossier and dumped that into the media (even though this so-called dossier contained provable falsehoods). Obama was (and still is) the real threat to our democracy -- not Trump or the Russians. We need a full investigation of this by Congress and the U.S. Justice Department. Link? Source?
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Post by dezailoooooo on Mar 4, 2017 11:34:30 GMT -5
If it could ever come out that the Donald or his representatives were in touch and knowledge of Russian involvement..knowing or encouraging...even just by smiles...a vodka downing ....in our electorial process for what ever reason...and it would be known that it would be to help one candidate over another...that would be treason big time in my opinion. If it could ever come out that while Obama was still POTUS representatives of the Donald, on their own or by suggestion..even inadvertently by semi accident,..while in office the Donald to know one in partculer , just musing out loud while folks are present... " boy wouldn't it be a good thing tp let Putin know that these diplomate expulsions aren't forever...hope he doesn't over react...same with those dumb sanctions on the Russians...we are going to have to visit all that stuff soon after I assume office" and one of those presenjt picked up on that and ran to a Russian whatever and let the cat out of the bag regarding the Presidents elect thought...while Obama still the President....that to me is treason. Now if Donald asked Obama for permission to talk to someone ahead of his swearing in and got a ok..that is different but does,'t seem he did on this one. So, if I understand this correctly, if somebody in Pres. Trump's campaign was downing a few drinks with a Russian official, and the official stated "You know what would be great? If somebody leaked e-mails from the DNC server to show everyone how in the bag they are for Hillary Clinton." and the campaign man's reply was to laugh and agree, that would constitute treason? Furthermore, if somebody in Pres. Trump's campaign got loose-lipped in polite company and let it slip to a Russian official that Pres. Trump believed the sanctions on Russia and expulsion of the Russian diplomats were terrible ideas, something he'd revisit after he was sworn in, that would constitute treason? You realize it wasn't any secret Pres. Trump didn't approve of the sanctions or the expulsions and that he was keen on establishing friendlier relations with the Russians? Inj your scenario...a few innocent pops , a bit of running of the mouth and nothing more no , though if I knew I had such a loose lipped guy hanging around me , probably get rid of them...but if one was sent on a mission..and used the prop of a few pops to the right individual and let it be known seriously that after the election, these doings of the out going Presiudent would be removed...yeah...treasonable...conciouse doing to ..mix in when have no authority to undermine US policy...treasonable.
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Mar 4, 2017 12:12:58 GMT -5
Care to comment on Schumer, Pelosi, 30 other Democrats or the 100s of times including 22 times last year? Or...this Wow! Turns out that Obama in October of 2016 sought and got a secret order from the secret FISA court to tap the phones of Donald Trump and his colleauges in Trump Tower as well as use our Intelligence agencies to secretly search their computers to dig up dirt. Now, remember what the FISA Court is. It's a secret court that stands for FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE SURVEILANCE ACT COURT. It's narrow purpose is to authorize wire taps and surveillance of terrorist organizations (like ISIS and al Qaeda), not to authorize wire taps and secret computer searches of the Republican nominee for President. This is exactly what Edward Snowden warned about. This is way worse than Watergate or any scandal by any American President in U.S. history. Where is the ACLU on this? Obama and his henchmen should go to prison for a very long time for using these KGB tactics (the powers of our intelligence agencies) to attempt to sabotage an opponent's Presidential campaign; and then try to sabotage Trump's administration by dumping whatever they found (including putting together that bogus dossier) into the media. This is a violation of the Espionage Act, the Government Secrets Act, the Patriot Act, not to mention the Constitution's Fourth Amendment protections against "unreasonable searches," and many other federal laws designed to protect American citizens against exactly this kind of activity. It is unimaginably dangerous for the President of the United States (Obama) to be be using our Intelligence Agencies as an opposition research operation against his political opponents. This is Stalinesque. Now remember, Obama thought he could get away with this secret wire tapping and investigation of Trump in October because the Dems thought there was no chance Trump would win. So there would be no accountability for Obama for this illegal investigation. That was the expectation. They also assumed they would find all kinds of dirt on Trump. Evidently, they found nothing. So they came up with that bogus dossier and dumped that into the media (even though this so-called dossier contained provable falsehoods). Obama was (and still is) the real threat to our democracy -- not Trump or the Russians. We need a full investigation of this by Congress and the U.S. Justice Department. Link? Source? trumps twitter
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Mar 4, 2017 12:15:12 GMT -5
So, if I understand this correctly, if somebody in Pres. Trump's campaign was downing a few drinks with a Russian official, and the official stated "You know what would be great? If somebody leaked e-mails from the DNC server to show everyone how in the bag they are for Hillary Clinton." and the campaign man's reply was to laugh and agree, that would constitute treason? Furthermore, if somebody in Pres. Trump's campaign got loose-lipped in polite company and let it slip to a Russian official that Pres. Trump believed the sanctions on Russia and expulsion of the Russian diplomats were terrible ideas, something he'd revisit after he was sworn in, that would constitute treason? You realize it wasn't any secret Pres. Trump didn't approve of the sanctions or the expulsions and that he was keen on establishing friendlier relations with the Russians? Inj your scenario...a few innocent pops , a bit of running of the mouth and nothing more no , though if I knew I had such a loose lipped guy hanging around me , probably get rid of them...but if one was sent on a mission..and used the prop of a few pops to the right individual and let it be known seriously that after the election, these doings of the out going Presiudent would be removed...yeah...treasonable...conciouse doing to ..mix in when have no authority to undermine US policy...treasonable. If reversing US policy towards a foreign power--or even making it known to a foreign power that one intends to reverse US policy--is a treasonable offense, then how is Pres. Obama's restoration of friendly relations with Cuba after decades of hostility not also treason? Pres. Obama was undoing what he felt was a bad (or at least outdated) decision by former presidents. He didn't make any secret of it. Pres. Trump was vocal in his wanting to restore friendlier relations with the Russians throughout his entire campaign. It was no secret he disapproved of the stance Washington had taken. What exactly is treasonous about a reversal or a planned reversal of US foreign policy? The only qualifying circumstances I can think of is if Pres. Trump struck a deal with the Russian government very early on in the campaign with the understanding that the Russians would be illegally pulling data off of servers and either leaking it or handing it over to team Trump. In exchange, the Russians were promised a complete reversal of the sanctions placed on them once Trump was president. What you're talking about here doesn't even begin to resemble this. You seem to be saying that Pres. Trump wasn't/isn't allowed to be at odds with the previous administration on foreign policy vis a vis Russia.
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Rukh O'Rorke
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Mar 4, 2017 12:15:34 GMT -5
lol - the tweet came out at 4:00 AM.
They can't monitor him ALL the time!
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