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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Feb 22, 2017 13:51:28 GMT -5
Our modern day Woodward & Bernstein, James O'Keefe has advised Sean Hannity he is set to release "hundreds of hours" of newsroom footage "Wikileaks style" from a "major news network"... www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-21/james-okeefe-about-smoke-cnn-tells-hannity-hes-set-release-hundreds-hours-newsroom-fIn other words, a closeted Trump supporter working deep inside hyper-liberal CNN just gave O'Keefe a ton of behind the scenes footage of "The Most Trusted Name In News." My guess is we're about to hear a bunch of establishment media puppets revealing their extreme hatred for the sitting President of the United States.
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Post by swamp on Feb 22, 2017 14:18:27 GMT -5
I'm hoping it contains more statements from Milo about attending parties in LA where some of the guests were young boys for the older mens' sexual pleasure.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 22, 2017 14:38:14 GMT -5
i suspect that James O'Theef will selectively edit it to make it look like something it isn't.
that is, after all, what he does.
how you can go on praising this convicted criminal is beyond me.
edit: to be clear, James O'Theef is the master of "fake news". the irony of the OP should not be lost on anyone.
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Post by dezailoooooo on Feb 22, 2017 15:36:54 GMT -5
Our modern day Woodward & Bernstein, James O'Keefe has advised Sean Hannity he is set to release "hundreds of hours" of newsroom footage "Wikileaks style" from a "major news network"... www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-21/james-okeefe-about-smoke-cnn-tells-hannity-hes-set-release-hundreds-hours-newsroom-fIn other words, a closeted Trump supporter working deep inside hyper-liberal CNN just gave O'Keefe a ton of behind the scenes footage of "The Most Trusted Name In News." My guess is we're about to hear a bunch of establishment media puppets revealing their extreme hatred for the sitting President of the United States. hmmmm...hatred u say...hmmmmm,....well a bit much...dislike I could see...not much respect for...not wanting to invite him for Christmas Dinner I can see.....then again...hatred....? Sure why not...these are fair minded folks over there and like so many of us...when u have someone so against what so many of us feel is what makes America great..different then all other nations...yeah , hate could fit. Why should some of the folks there feel differently then their counterparts over at Fox felt over Obama being POTUS or for that matter Rush's feelings toward our 44th President. Yeah hate can fit...be interesting to see what comes out of it...
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Post by imawino on Feb 22, 2017 15:40:26 GMT -5
How any particular reporter feels is completely irrelevant. They don't give up rights to be human, they can hate whomever they want. "Behind the scenes" footage is completely meaningless. It's really "In front of the scenes" reporting that matters. Do I give a fuck what reporter backs what candidate? No. I give a fuck whether or not they report facts.
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Post by dezailoooooo on Feb 22, 2017 15:42:40 GMT -5
i suspect that James O'Theef will selectively edit it to make it look like something it isn't. that is, after all, what he does. how you can go on praising this convicted criminal is beyond me. edit: to be clear, James O'Theef is the master of "fake news". the irony of the OP should not be lost on anyone. James O'Keefe Activist projectveritas.com James Edward O'Keefe III is an American conservative political activist. He produces secretly recorded undercover audio and video encounters, some of which he then edits in order to misrepresent persons ... Wikipedia how you can go on praising this convicted criminal is beyond me. for the Paul? No problem at all...what he is famouse for... .....
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Post by dezailoooooo on Feb 22, 2017 15:49:03 GMT -5
How any particular reporter feels is completely irrelevant. They don't give up rights to be human, they can hate whomever they want. "Behind the scenes" footage is completely meaningless. It's really "In front of the scenes" reporting that matters. Do I give a fuck what reporter backs what candidate? No. I give a fuck whether or not they report facts. and over all...and yes at times I agree with the Donald..I can get a feeling of "tone" in there...but over all . CNN is pretty straight in their reporting...Hell I can remember ole Walter showing some "Tone" at times.. [ lordy , just realized some here are saying "Walter..? Walter who?" Kronkite children...google. Here..... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Cronkite
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Post by imawino on Feb 22, 2017 15:57:41 GMT -5
How any particular reporter feels is completely irrelevant. They don't give up rights to be human, they can hate whomever they want. "Behind the scenes" footage is completely meaningless. It's really "In front of the scenes" reporting that matters. Do I give a fuck what reporter backs what candidate? No. I give a fuck whether or not they report facts. and over all...and yes at times I agree with the Donald..I can get a feeling of "tone" in there...but over all . CNN is pretty straight in their reporting...Hell I can remember ole Walter showing some "Tone" at times.. [ lordy , just realized some here are saying "Walter..? Walter who?" Kronkite children...google. Here..... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_CronkiteLOL. I know who walter cronkite is! I was actually in a show with him once! There's your imawino trivia for the day.
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Post by dezailoooooo on Feb 22, 2017 16:02:35 GMT -5
and over all...and yes at times I agree with the Donald..I can get a feeling of "tone" in there...but over all . CNN is pretty straight in their reporting...Hell I can remember ole Walter showing some "Tone" at times.. [ lordy , just realized some here are saying "Walter..? Walter who?" Kronkite children...google. Here..... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_CronkiteLOL. I know who walter cronkite is! I was actually in a show with him once! There's your imawino trivia for the day. Wow....neat..lived a exciting life...was a great sailor too..his wife and he...could use a few like him today...would have been something to see his readction to our Donald...would love to see the ZDonald tweet against him..Personally believe the Walter would devour him and spit out the pieces...
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Post by dezailoooooo on Feb 22, 2017 16:30:35 GMT -5
How any particular reporter feels is completely irrelevant. They don't give up rights to be human, they can hate whomever they want. "Behind the scenes" footage is completely meaningless. It's really "In front of the scenes" reporting that matters. Do I give a fuck what reporter backs what candidate? No. I give a fuck whether or not they report facts. but deciding how you position those facts, when you report those facts, what facts you choose to report or not report all form the persuasive narrative, so massive bias does matter think most of the reporters , commentators I watch seem to have their emotions under contro...don't believe the Donalds rants of fake at all...the only thing faked is him...and it's getting worse by the minute..
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 22, 2017 16:34:53 GMT -5
How any particular reporter feels is completely irrelevant. They don't give up rights to be human, they can hate whomever they want. "Behind the scenes" footage is completely meaningless. It's really "In front of the scenes" reporting that matters. Do I give a fuck what reporter backs what candidate? No. I give a fuck whether or not they report facts. but deciding how you position those facts, when you report those facts, what facts you choose to report or not report all form the persuasive narrative, so massive bias does matter it would take time and effort to find someone with greater bias than James O'Theef.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Feb 22, 2017 16:37:49 GMT -5
We'll see what the footage shows.
I have a feeling DJ is right and O'Keefe will shoot himself in the foot by editing the footage. But in the man's defense, he's always released the raw footage along with the edited stuff and it's still pretty telling.
I truly wish he could resist the urge to compile misleading summaries to give skeptics an excuse to throw the good out with the bad.
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Post by imawino on Feb 22, 2017 16:40:18 GMT -5
How any particular reporter feels is completely irrelevant. They don't give up rights to be human, they can hate whomever they want. "Behind the scenes" footage is completely meaningless. It's really "In front of the scenes" reporting that matters. Do I give a fuck what reporter backs what candidate? No. I give a fuck whether or not they report facts. but deciding how you position those facts, when you report those facts, what facts you choose to report or not report all form the persuasive narrative, so massive bias does matter I agree that bias matters, to an extent. I disagree that I need a behind the scenes look to determine that. People, including news media, are entitled to hold whatever political affiliations they want. Every human has some bias, it would be ridiculous of me to assume otherwise. I have some ownership in the viewing process as well. If I can't weed out "massive bias" on my own, I need to check multiple sources. This current anti-news fear mongering is not helping anyone though. Except Trump, I guess. And anyone who thinks that O'Keefe's reporting on this issue wouldn't be the most massive steaming pile of bias they ever saw is well beyond help.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 22, 2017 16:46:38 GMT -5
We'll see what the footage shows. I have a feeling DJ is right and O'Keefe will shoot himself in the foot by editing the footage. But in the man's defense, he's always released the raw footage along with the edited stuff and it's still pretty telling.I truly wish he could resist the urge to compile misleading summaries to give skeptics an excuse to throw the good out with the bad. i agree with the highlighted part. in the case of the ACORN footage, it showed he was a complete fraud. i can't use strong enough language to condemn him, here. it's not permitted.
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Post by Tiny on Feb 22, 2017 16:52:17 GMT -5
How any particular reporter feels is completely irrelevant. They don't give up rights to be human, they can hate whomever they want. "Behind the scenes" footage is completely meaningless. It's really "In front of the scenes" reporting that matters. Do I give a fuck what reporter backs what candidate? No. I give a fuck whether or not they report facts. but deciding how you position those facts, when you report those facts, what facts you choose to report or not report all form the persuasive narrative, so massive bias does matter All reporters are biased.
I found it humorous that Paul would use 'extreme bias reporting' as proof that his own views are true.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Feb 22, 2017 17:01:07 GMT -5
We'll see what the footage shows. I have a feeling DJ is right and O'Keefe will shoot himself in the foot by editing the footage. But in the man's defense, he's always released the raw footage along with the edited stuff and it's still pretty telling.I truly wish he could resist the urge to compile misleading summaries to give skeptics an excuse to throw the good out with the bad. i agree with the highlighted part. in the case of the ACORN footage, it showed he was a complete fraud. i can't use strong enough language to condemn him, here. it's not permitted. I've never seen his ACORN footage. Everyone in America should see the undercover PP footage, if only to ensure they have no delusions about what goes on behind closed doors. His footage on Mr. Foval, Vargas, et al. failed to establish scale but proved that men do exist whose profession (for lack of a better word) is facilitating election fraud. I agree with you: he's deceitful. The raw footage he procures is valuable whether he's deceitful or not. Hence my wishing he wasn't deceitful.
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Post by dezailoooooo on Feb 22, 2017 17:55:44 GMT -5
but deciding how you position those facts, when you report those facts, what facts you choose to report or not report all form the persuasive narrative, so massive bias does matter it would take time and effort to find someone with greater bias than James O'Theef. Actually...when u think about it...don't have to look too far, feel we have two even three here who would give O'theef a run for their money regarding their bias....just saying..
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 22, 2017 18:27:44 GMT -5
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 22, 2017 18:53:21 GMT -5
All reporters are biased.
I found it humorous that Paul would use 'extreme bias reporting' as proof that his own views are true.
correct, all reporters are biased. the point is, that the overwhelming, vast, vast majority are strongly biased to a liberal POV. this is a claim that dates back about 20 years, but has scant to no evidence. it is TRUE that JOURNALISTS are MOSTLY Democratic in registration. however, when their actual views have been surveyed, it has been shown that their perspective on issue is slightly RIGHT of center. furthermore, most journalists don't have the opportunity to express opinion. and then, of course, there is editing. this is not to say that the MEDIA is not biased. it is. just not in the way that you are saying.
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Feb 22, 2017 20:07:01 GMT -5
All reporters are biased.
I found it humorous that Paul would use 'extreme bias reporting' as proof that his own views are true.
correct, all reporters are biased. the point is, that the overwhelming, vast, vast majority are strongly biased to a liberal POV. So for conservatives, there is a constant "tilted playing field" for how our ideas and candidates are positioned. It's not that about 1/2 of reporters are biased one way and 1/2 the other, ti's that the press is almost a monoculture of progressivism and they present that worldview as right and assumed to be how the world works. This creates an unfair and unhealthy presentation of the world. What exactly are identifying as bias? What they choose to report on? Or representation of facts? Because it sounds like you feel that a non-conservative pov = bias
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Post by ken a.k.a OMK on Feb 22, 2017 22:10:20 GMT -5
Most of us know Paul posts right wing, somewhat questionable sources to get attention. Best to ignore him. Maybe he'll go away.
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Post by dezailoooooo on Feb 22, 2017 23:20:56 GMT -5
Most of us know Paul posts right wing, somewhat questionable sources to get attention. Best to ignore him. Maybe he'll go away. Actually...and was just discussing this with one of the mods privatly.....u really need opposite views on a site like this one...had experience on a site that was all right wing...former poster here who started her own zone...and it didn't last...seems all were patting themselves on the back and bitching about the same thing..I was the only one with alternate views and knowing my placev so to speak.. was very polite...they still couldn't stand my points of view..even presented modertly...they zapped me...LOL....the site folded shortly afterwards.. Here while basically in minority...still three to five have opposite views and even though frustrating at times...glad they are here participating...a bit less BS wouldn't hurt though..a bit more realistic honest posting too...IMHO, of course.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Feb 23, 2017 9:40:03 GMT -5
How any particular reporter feels is completely irrelevant. They don't give up rights to be human, they can hate whomever they want. "Behind the scenes" footage is completely meaningless. It's really "In front of the scenes" reporting that matters. Do I give a fuck what reporter backs what candidate? No. I give a fuck whether or not they report facts. Sorry, but it is intellectually dishonest to state that it doesn't matter that a reporter is in the tank for a candidate on the one hand, but they objectively report the facts on the other. ESPECIALLY when said reporter (many at CNN) was identified as actively colluding with the campaign of their favored candidate. Information is too widely available now to allow for ignorance as an explanation for such a position.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Feb 23, 2017 9:41:10 GMT -5
Most of us know Paul posts right wing, somewhat questionable sources to get attention. Best to ignore him. Maybe he'll go away. "somewhat" right wing sources? I'm slipping. I shall endeavor to do better.
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Post by dezailoooooo on Feb 23, 2017 11:35:31 GMT -5
How any particular reporter feels is completely irrelevant. They don't give up rights to be human, they can hate whomever they want. "Behind the scenes" footage is completely meaningless. It's really "In front of the scenes" reporting that matters. Do I give a fuck what reporter backs what candidate? No. I give a fuck whether or not they report facts. Sorry, but it is intellectually dishonest to state that it doesn't matter that a reporter is in the tank for a candidate on the one hand, but they objectively report the facts on the other. ESPECIALLY when said reporter (many at CNN) was identified as actively colluding with the campaign of their favored candidate. Information is too widely available now to allow for ignorance as an explanation for such a position. Will say if they were actively colluding..they did a hell of a good job in presenting what ever story being presented in a interesting way ...unlike Fox and yes have tried them and just so slanted right..have to leave them also...while u might not feel this way...with most of us...the man, the Donald...makes it so simple since he is off the wall in his doings.. Now I understand his approval rating with Republicans is in the 80% range...with the Democrats and none Donald supporter , his disapproval ratings are in the 90% range...both sides so far apart....One can understand how the country went to War with each other over 150 years ago....possible the same today if allowed...I guarantee there are folks going to bed at night who are quietly saying and feeling in their nightly prayers , feelings against our Donald..that is how bad it has gotten...You may feel all that may be a good thing...hope u understand when I say I believe that is IMHO , that is the worst thing to face our country...
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Feb 23, 2017 14:16:10 GMT -5
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Post by swamp on Feb 23, 2017 15:30:14 GMT -5
Most of us know Paul posts right wing, somewhat questionable sources to get attention. Best to ignore him. Maybe he'll go away. "somewhat" right wing sources? I'm slipping. I shall endeavor to do better. No. The right wing isn't questionable. The sources are. Reading comprehension is your friend.
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Post by dezailoooooo on Feb 23, 2017 15:43:57 GMT -5
I believe and suggest that the figure you are posting is probably correct..because that is what the Republicans believe,,not independents and Democrats...also the way the poll was worded... When it is posted all criminals..that can mean violent criminals doing felonies against people but also including abd lumping together...those illegals who just by coming over the border with out paper work..over staying visas ...they too are criminals and while u and other conservatives feel they too are as guilty as robbers, drug dealers, rapest and con artests...I and most left leaners do not consider them as alien criminals. Entirely different animal...
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Feb 23, 2017 21:02:43 GMT -5
Why even have immigration laws if you have sanctuary cities? Riddle me that.
You might as well hand out "Get out of deportation free!" cards on street corners. This card may be kept until needed or sold. Spare everyone the hassle of having to run to a sanctuary and back whenever they're caught.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Feb 25, 2017 10:36:45 GMT -5
Why even have immigration laws if you have sanctuary cities? Riddle me that. You might as well hand out "Get out of deportation free!" cards on street corners. This card may be kept until needed or sold. Spare everyone the hassle of having to run to a sanctuary and back whenever they're caught. Well as long as we can have Sanctuary cities from the income tax I'm good with it. By the way, I wonder how long that would last? I wonder if there'd be howling and screaming when the government sent in IRS agents to raid tax evaders in a sanctuary City?
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