We are killers...

[TheHaitian]

Color me stupid and I might be but for a country that is trying to fight ISIS, isn't it somewhat risky for the President of such country to admit publicly that we are indeed "killers".

I mean if I was ISIS besides his ban this video would be part of our "introduction to ISIS - 101"... why you should join us!

Trump made the remark during an interview with Fox News' Bill O'Reilly, saying he respected his Russian counterpart.

"But he's a killer," O'Reilly said to Trump.

"There are a lot of killers. You think our country's so innocent?" Trump replied.

www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/02/04/politics/donald-trump-vladimir-putin/index.html?client=safari

Side note: I will add I appreciate Trump; he has made politics fun again and has turned it into reality TV. I bet you more
People has watch/listened/read the news/blogs since January 20 since forever!

[cronewitch]

His supporters didn't want a politician and they didn't get one.

[Rukh O'Rorke]

Oh Snap crone!

SNL has had a lot of material to work with too.

[toshmanta]

One of the few statements I agree with but as has been pointed out another bullseye for ISIS.

[Gardening Grandma]

"Telling it like  it is".  I'm sure his supporters cheered hearing Dear Leader admit that the US are killers

[dondub]

Music always helps those dark moments.

[Tiny]

So, HOW is the US of A being compared to Russia about "killings"

Yes, America has "killed" a lot since we keep backing/pushing forward regime change wars (which seems to a Republican thing... they seem to like wars)...

And certainly Russia  has done stuff like that too... especially recently.

America hasn't killed any journalists/people in the media for dissenting with government officials/policy (well, not yet atleast).

Russia has.

It's been several decades since the Government has killed protesting civilians on American soil - in an attempt to maintain order or to silence a protest (well, atleast not yet)  I'm pretty sure Russia has.

America also doesn't seem to have a lot of  political prisoners - jailing people (usually media/journalist/leaders of organizations)  who disagree with the government officials/policy (well, at least not yet).

Trump certainly isn't a politician...

[kadee79]

Feb 6, 2017 14:19:05 GMT -5 Tiny said:

So, HOW is the US of A being compared to Russia about "killings"

It's been several decades since the Government has killed protesting civilians on American soil - in an attempt to maintain order or to silence a protest (well, atleast not yet)  I'm pretty sure Russia has.

Are you thinking Kent State?....like that one local politician mentioned....a GOPer who said it might be time for another one of those?

Neither Democrats nor Republicans go around killing their rivals...at least not like Putin orders done!

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Feb 5, 2017 0:58:30 GMT -5 TheHaitian said:

Color me stupid and I might be but for a country that is trying to fight ISIS, isn't it somewhat risky for the President of such country to admit publicly that we are indeed "killers".

I mean if I was ISIS besides his ban this video would be part of our "introduction to ISIS - 101"... why you should join us!

Trump made the remark during an interview with Fox News' Bill O'Reilly, saying he respected his Russian counterpart.

"But he's a killer," O'Reilly said to Trump.

"There are a lot of killers. You think our country's so innocent?" Trump replied.

www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/02/04/politics/donald-trump-vladimir-putin/index.html?client=safari

Side note: I will add I appreciate Trump; he has made politics fun again and has turned it into reality TV. I bet you more
People has watch/listened/read the news/blogs since January 20 since forever!

I'm still just sitting back stunned that time after time so few people understand what Trump is doing.

I confess to having something of an advantage in that I've been studying persuasion, marketing, and the use of the "dark arts" for the same for better than a decade. But come on.

Trump understands movements like ISIS. He understands how they work- they are cults. It's all brainwashing, drugs, sleep deprivation, torture, blackmail (a favorite ISIS tactic is to rape men, video tape it, and threaten to make it public if they don't go fight-- homosexual rape is one of the hallmarks of violent radical islamic terror groups).

Deep down, we're dealing with scared boys- not men, and certainly not warriors.

The islamic rape gangs ravaging European nations, the targeting of civilians- especially women and children at so-called "soft targets" aren't so keen on attacking our military forces- our killers.

So, it is wise for Trump to remind them-- it is the peaceful solution to scare them-- before we use force to subdue them.

[swasat]

Ain't Paul a ray of sunshine   

Paul the great psychologist !

[Green Eyed Lady]

Guys...I don't think it was a big secret before.

[imawino]

Feb 6, 2017 15:39:45 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Feb 5, 2017 0:58:30 GMT -5 TheHaitian said:

Color me stupid and I might be but for a country that is trying to fight ISIS, isn't it somewhat risky for the President of such country to admit publicly that we are indeed "killers".

I mean if I was ISIS besides his ban this video would be part of our "introduction to ISIS - 101"... why you should join us!

www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/02/04/politics/donald-trump-vladimir-putin/index.html?client=safari

Side note: I will add I appreciate Trump; he has made politics fun again and has turned it into reality TV. I bet you more
People has watch/listened/read the news/blogs since January 20 since forever!

I'm still just sitting back stunned that time after time so few people understand what Trump is doing.

I confess to having something of an advantage in that I've been studying persuasion, marketing, and the use of the "dark arts" for the same for better than a decade. But come on.

Trump understands movements like ISIS. He understands how they work- they are cults. It's all brainwashing, drugs, sleep deprivation, torture, blackmail (a favorite ISIS tactic is to rape men, video tape it, and threaten to make it public if they don't go fight-- homosexual rape is one of the hallmarks of violent radical islamic terror groups).

Deep down, we're dealing with scared boys- not men, and certainly not warriors.

The islamic rape gangs ravaging European nations, the targeting of civilians- especially women and children at so-called "soft targets" aren't so keen on attacking our military forces- our killers.

So, it is wise for Trump to remind them-- it is the peaceful solution to scare them-- before we use force to subdue them.

Just 

[weltschmerz]

Trump understands movements like ISIS. He understands how they work- they are cults. It's all brainwashing

He absolutely does! How do you think the bellicose and belligerent bloviating buffoon got so many people to vote for him?

[Great]

Feb 6, 2017 16:29:58 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

Trump understands movements like ISIS. He understands how they work- they are cults. It's all brainwashing

He absolutely does! How do you think the bellicose and belligerent bloviating buffoon got so many people to vote for him?

Stand up for change! Yes We Can! Yes We Can!

The rallying cry of Obamamania that swept the country, luring all that it could into the progressive movement with all the hopey & changey stuff. IIRC Obama had a cult like following, it was in newspapers, journalists just couldn't get enough of the young senator that was so charismatic.
I guess people had enough of that,  didn't want to see Obama's brand of politics and agenda continue or surely Mrs. Clinton would have had a different outcome?

[Gardening Grandma]

Feb 6, 2017 17:15:25 GMT -5 Great said:

Feb 6, 2017 16:29:58 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

He absolutely does! How do you think the bellicose and belligerent bloviating buffoon got so many people to vote for him?

Stand up for change! Yes We Can! Yes We Can!

The rallying cry of Obamamania that swept the country, luring all that it could into the progressive movement with all the hopey & changey stuff. IIRC Obama had a cult like following, it was in newspapers, journalists just couldn't get enough of the young senator that was so charismatic.
I guess people had enough of that,  didn't want to see Obama's brand of politics and agenda continue or surely Mrs. Clinton would have had a different outcome?

Um. She WON the popular vote by nearly 3 million.  

[zibazinski]

[Gardening Grandma]

but BENGHAZI,! 

I am sending the following to the Benghazi panel (listed below with their fax numbers)


..Dear Congressman;

I’m writing you today to call your attention to a tragic event. The incident that took place one week ago in Yemen is very troubling. An American commando, a patriot, lost his life needlessly in what appears to have been a poorly conceived of operation. According to press reports and the White House, there were multiple civilian casualties as well; including an 8 year old girl.

This tragedy must be investigated to ensure that such needless suffering is prevented in the future. I implore you to apply the same vigor and determination you demonstrated to get to the bottom of the Benghazi Embassy tragedy of some four and a half years ago. The life of Chief Special Warfare Operator William Owens deserves the same level of respect that our four heros at Benghazi were afforded.

Please don’t turn this tragedy into a political situation by neglecting to give it the same urgency and moxie you applied to the Benghazi investigations.

Sincerely,

.___________________________

Trey Gowdy, Chairman [phone]

Susan Brooks [phone]

Jim Jordan [phone]

Mike Pompeo [phone]

Martha Roby [phone]

Peter Roskam [phone]

Lynn Westmoreland [phone]

Jason Chaffetz [phone]

Darrell Issa [phone]

[Opti]

Feb 5, 2017 1:30:40 GMT -5 cronewitch said:

His supporters didn't want a politician and they didn't get one.

Correction, they didn't want a *regular* Washington DC politician. They definitely elected a politician. He just plays politics at the federal level the way he played politics with the banks and state government when there were "issues" concerning his companies.

[Tiny]

Feb 6, 2017 15:30:03 GMT -5 kadee79 said:

Feb 6, 2017 14:19:05 GMT -5 Tiny said:

So, HOW is the US of A being compared to Russia about "killings"

It's been several decades since the Government has killed protesting civilians on American soil - in an attempt to maintain order or to silence a protest (well, atleast not yet)  I'm pretty sure Russia has.

Are you thinking Kent State?....like that one local politician mentioned....a GOPer who said it might be time for another one of those?

Neither Democrats nor Republicans go around killing their rivals...at least not like Putin orders done!

Yes, Kent State. 

and I overlooked how the Russian's like to kill their political rivals.

[dondub]

Russian guy just poisoned for a second time is currently hospitalized.

[mroped]

Feb 6, 2017 15:39:45 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

I'm still just sitting back stunned that time after time so few people understand what Trump is doing.

I confess to having something of an advantage in that I've been studying persuasion, marketing, and the use of the "dark arts" for the same for better than a decade. But come on.

Trump understands movements like ISIS. He understands how they work- they are cults. It's all brainwashing, drugs, sleep deprivation, torture, blackmail (a favorite ISIS tactic is to rape men, video tape it, and threaten to make it public if they don't go fight-- homosexual rape is one of the hallmarks of violent radical islamic terror groups).

Deep down, we're dealing with scared boys- not men, and certainly not warriors.

The islamic rape gangs ravaging European nations, the targeting of civilians- especially women and children at so-called "soft targets" aren't so keen on attacking our military forces- our killers.

So, it is wise for Trump to remind them-- it is the peaceful solution to scare them-- before we use force to subdue them.

For all the studying of the "dark arts" as you call it, you completely misunderstand the ISIS people.
Do you think that there's anything that scares them in all reality?
I think not because we are talking about religious indoctrination of the worse kind. They truly believe that they do this for the "Glory of God" and that's their mission on earth.

"Scared boys..."- do you think they care about psychology 101? So why waste the energy in trying to talk to them?
There is a saying back home: "dogs that bark, don't bite!"

Best would be to stop talking about them especially the president. Let the press run their news articles on the matter but have all public figures dismiss the subject as irelevant to our lives.
In the mean time, fund and train well elite soldiers with the sole mission to pick them one by one.
At the end of the day, wars are declared by politicians and fought by soldiers. Politicians had declared the war, now is about high time that they sit the f*** down and let the soldiers do their jobs.
An efficient army is a silent one not one that comes in with fanfare and drum rolls.

Unfortunately, our politicians-all alike- love bragging about how our troops had great success because they signed some stupid bill giving them the funding. They make it look like they are the ones that pulled the trigger. However, if there is a fail, all are to quick to condemn someone else's rush decision.

[jkapp]

Feb 6, 2017 13:52:37 GMT -5 Gardening Grandma said:

"Telling it like  it is".  I'm sure his supporters cheered hearing Dear Leader admit that the US are killers

Just like Obama supporters backed his apology tour in the Middle East when he was first elected...

How soon everyone forgets, huh? 

[jkapp]

Feb 6, 2017 14:19:05 GMT -5 Tiny said:

So, HOW is the US of A being compared to Russia about "killings"

Yes, America has "killed" a lot since we keep backing/pushing forward regime change wars (which seems to a Republican thing... they seem to like wars)...

And certainly Russia  has done stuff like that too... especially recently.

America hasn't killed any journalists/people in the media for dissenting with government officials/policy (well, not yet atleast).

Russia has.

It's been several decades since the Government has killed protesting civilians on American soil - in an attempt to maintain order or to silence a protest (well, atleast not yet)  I'm pretty sure Russia has.

America also doesn't seem to have a lot of  political prisoners - jailing people (usually media/journalist/leaders of organizations)  who disagree with the government officials/policy (well, at least not yet).

Trump certainly isn't a politician...

True, the US hasn't done those things in a while...but Cuba has - and for whatever reason, Obama made us all snuggly with Cuba.

Oh yeah, but Obama did that, so it's ok

[Gardening Grandma]

Feb 7, 2017 19:20:37 GMT -5 jkapp said:

Feb 6, 2017 13:52:37 GMT -5 Gardening Grandma said:

"Telling it like  it is".  I'm sure his supporters cheered hearing Dear Leader admit that the US are killers

Just like Obama supporters backed his apology tour in the Middle East when he was first elected...

How soon everyone forgets, huh? 

There was no "apology tour" except in the minds of his detractors.

[dondub]

If removing the sanctions and embargo of Cuba is getting all snuggly, so be it.

[imawino]

Feb 7, 2017 19:20:37 GMT -5 jkapp said:

Feb 6, 2017 13:52:37 GMT -5 Gardening Grandma said:

"Telling it like  it is".  I'm sure his supporters cheered hearing Dear Leader admit that the US are killers

Just like Obama supporters backed his apology tour in the Middle East when he was first elected...

How soon everyone forgets, huh? 

I have to seen the vitriol that the right directed towards Obama's "apology tour" directed toward Trump - and he sure seems to have started his awfully early, and in a big way!!  Why is that?

This may warrant a separate thread.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Feb 7, 2017 17:16:37 GMT -5 mroped said:

Feb 6, 2017 15:39:45 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

I'm still just sitting back stunned that time after time so few people understand what Trump is doing.

I confess to having something of an advantage in that I've been studying persuasion, marketing, and the use of the "dark arts" for the same for better than a decade. But come on.

Trump understands movements like ISIS. He understands how they work- they are cults. It's all brainwashing, drugs, sleep deprivation, torture, blackmail (a favorite ISIS tactic is to rape men, video tape it, and threaten to make it public if they don't go fight-- homosexual rape is one of the hallmarks of violent radical islamic terror groups).

Deep down, we're dealing with scared boys- not men, and certainly not warriors.

The islamic rape gangs ravaging European nations, the targeting of civilians- especially women and children at so-called "soft targets" aren't so keen on attacking our military forces- our killers.

So, it is wise for Trump to remind them-- it is the peaceful solution to scare them-- before we use force to subdue them.

For all the studying of the "dark arts" as you call it, you completely misunderstand the ISIS people. 
No, I really don't.

Do you think that there's anything that scares them in all reality? 
The entire culture lives in bondage to fear. They're never secure anywhere- never allowed to feel safe. They're motivated to kill as an escape- the only assurance of heaven in islam is martyrdom. 

I think not because we are talking about religious indoctrination of the worse kind. They truly believe that they do this for the "Glory of God" and that's their mission on earth.
That propaganda is for YOU. Not them. Like the "Divine Wind". Ultimately, we found out the Japanese were not actually prepared to die, and did not in fact want to die to the last man. Dying to the last man is a fearful, losing man's last bluff. We called it, they started playing baseball, listening to Elvis, and driving Caddis. 

"Scared boys..."- do you think they care about psychology 101? So why waste the energy in trying to talk to them?
There is a saying back home: "dogs that bark, don't bite!"
These rabid dogs bite- we've seen it. And the solution I'm proposing ain't talking believe me. They ought to be treated just like any rabid dog. Put them down. Unlike rabid dogs, the survivors are self aware and will calm down fairly quickly once they know we don't care how many we have to kill, or how we have to get it done.

Best would be to stop talking about them especially the president. Let the press run their news articles on the matter but have all public figures dismiss the subject as irelevant to our lives.
The subject wasn't irrelevant to the victims and families of the 49 murdered here in Orlando, or the hundreds murdered in the over 500 radical islamic terrorist attacks since 9/11. It's time to do exactly as Trump stated we would do in his address: wipe radical islamic terrorism off the face of the earth.

In the mean time, fund and train well elite soldiers with the sole mission to pick them one by one.
At the end of the day, wars are declared by politicians and fought by soldiers. Politicians had declared the war, now is about high time that they sit the f*** down and let the soldiers do their jobs.
An efficient army is a silent one not one that comes in with fanfare and drum rolls.
I'm not invested in how, and I have no compassion for the enemy so I really don't care what we do, or how we do it as long as every day we wake up there are more and more and more bodies of radical islamists feeding the birds of the air.

Unfortunately, our politicians-all alike- love bragging about how our troops had great success because they signed some stupid bill giving them the funding. They make it look like they are the ones that pulled the trigger. However, if there is a fail, all are to quick to condemn someone else's rush decision.
Politicians gonna politic. Just get the job done.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Feb 7, 2017 20:07:29 GMT -5 Gardening Grandma said:

Feb 7, 2017 19:20:37 GMT -5 jkapp said:

Just like Obama supporters backed his apology tour in the Middle East when he was first elected...

How soon everyone forgets, huh? 

There was no "apology tour" except in the minds of his detractors.

www.heritage.org/europe/report/barack-obamas-top-10-apologies-how-the-president-has-humiliated-superpower

Wrong again. Being wrong seems to be a hobby of yours- have you thought about going pro?

[billisonboard]

Feb 7, 2017 22:31:34 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Feb 7, 2017 20:07:29 GMT -5 Gardening Grandma said:

There was no "apology tour" except in the minds of his detractors.

www.heritage.org/europe/report/barack-obamas-top-10-apologies-how-the-president-has-humiliated-superpower

Wrong again. Being wrong seems to be a hobby of yours- have you thought about going pro?

Great read. The former president was spot on with each of the cited comments.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

The former president was literally the worst President in American history with the possible exceptions of Wilson or FDR. The truth is we won't know for some time as I suspect his deliberate sabotage runs quite deep.