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Post by dezailoooooo on Dec 18, 2016 15:39:53 GMT -5
yearly cost is ok with everyone...also there is the $25 Billion cost for the wall in the South...wait, believe Mexico pays for that one,, www.courant.com/business/hc-trump-navy-ships-20161216-story.html"The new goals would boost by 16 the number of "large surface combatants"– destroyers, cruisers or both. It would add one aircraft carrier in addition to the 11 mandated by law today, 18 more attack submarines and as many as four new amphibious warfare ships.
Cost remains the biggest impediment: The nonpartisan Congressional Research Service estimates a 350-ship Navy would cost an average $4 billion extra annually over the current forecast of about $16.3 billion a year for new ship construction through 2021. The current budget calls for eight new vessels in fiscal 2018; seven in fiscal 19; and eight each in 2020 and 2021." |
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Post by rob base on Dec 18, 2016 16:01:35 GMT -5
The yearly cost is OK with EVERYONE?? really?? you seem against it  |
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Post by dezailoooooo on Dec 18, 2016 17:15:54 GMT -5
The yearly cost is OK with EVERYONE?? really?? you seem against it Me?? Hey I am the outspoken middle to the left liberal who it seems pubs love accusing me/us[liberals] of wanting to spend, spend spend...as if it has been me who have spent all those Billions or is it Trillions the past eight years...?I was just pointing out a fact and not sure if that extra cost also includes the cost of extra sailors, officers and support personnel that are going to be needed to man those ships plus expensive aircraft wings , helos..radar searching control aircraft....new f-35's naval equivelent...for the extra carrier... It is the pub party, the Donalds party that has as members the tea party...big on budget controls and a new cabinet apointee who is supposedly death on expendatures of any type that the Donald is going to have to deal with.. Personally I don't think he has a clue as to what it takes to be the head man of this conglomerate called the US of A...A lot different of being owner of a company and over all, has to answer just to himself...bit different and being head of party in power, still no guarantee's.. it is the pub party that |
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Post by rob base on Dec 18, 2016 17:34:27 GMT -5
The yearly cost is OK with EVERYONE?? really?? you seem against it Me?? Hey I am the outspoken middle to the left liberal who it seems pubs love accusing me/us[liberals] of wanting to spend, spend spend...as if it has been me who have spent all those Billions or is it Trillions the past eight years...?I was just pointing out a fact and not sure if that extra cost also includes the cost of extra sailors, officers and support personnel that are going to be needed to man those ships plus expensive aircraft wings , helos..radar searching control aircraft....new f-35's naval equivelent...for the extra carrier... It is the pub party, the Donalds party that has as members the tea party...big on budget controls and a new cabinet apointee who is supposedly death on expendatures of any type that the Donald is going to have to deal with.. Personally I don't think he has a clue as to what it takes to be the head man of this conglomerate called the US of A...A lot different of being owner of a company and over all, has to answer just to himself...bit different and being head of party in power, still no guarantee's.. it is the pub party that
So you admit the first 6 words in your OP are wrong?
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 18, 2016 17:46:01 GMT -5
the new administration's deficits will make us long for the good old days of Obama.
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Dec 18, 2016 17:49:42 GMT -5
the new administration's deficits will make us long for the good old days of Obama. I predict those screaming about the debt will suddenly be OK with it increasing. They were silent during W's years. |
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 18, 2016 18:00:47 GMT -5
the new administration's deficits will make us long for the good old days of Obama. I predict those screaming about the debt will suddenly be OK with it increasing. They were silent during W's years. oh, but don't say anything. they will scream HYPOCRITE! in an attempt to inoculate themselves.  it's so predictable, one could set one's watch by it. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2016 20:23:58 GMT -5
The yearly cost is OK with EVERYONE?? really?? you seem against it Me?? Hey I am the outspoken middle to the left liberal who it seems pubs love accusing me/us[liberals] of wanting to spend, spend spend...as if it has been me who have spent all those Billions or is it Trillions the past eight years...?I was just pointing out a fact and not sure if that extra cost also includes the cost of extra sailors, officers and support personnel that are going to be needed to man those ships plus expensive aircraft wings , helos..radar searching control aircraft....new f-35's naval equivelent...for the extra carrier... It is the pub party, the Donalds party that has as members the tea party...big on budget controls and a new cabinet apointee who is supposedly death on expendatures of any type that the Donald is going to have to deal with.. Personally I don't think he has a clue as to what it takes to be the head man of this conglomerate called the US of A...A lot different of being owner of a company and over all, has to answer just to himself...bit different and being head of party in power, still no guarantee's.. it is the pub party that  ......  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2016 22:31:16 GMT -5
the new administration's deficits will make us long for the good old days of Obama. Sadly... I agree with the likelihood of this. However it would be even more true had Hillary won... so there's that. |
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Post by busymom on Dec 18, 2016 23:43:05 GMT -5
As business major in college, I remember the econ classes where we students were shown how different presidents increased our national deficit. In spite of tough talk, the Republicans ALWAYS outspent the Democratic Party. I pulled up this graph to show nothing has changed. And, since "The Donald" seems to live for walking away from big bills, I expect his future presidency will make things a LOT worse.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2016 23:53:29 GMT -5
As business major in college, I remember the econ classes where we students were shown how different presidents increased our national deficit. In spite of tough talk, the Republicans ALWAYS outspent the Democratic Party. I pulled up this graph to show nothing has changed. And, since "The Donald" seems to live for walking away from big bills, I expect his future presidency will make things a LOT worse.
I don't know if that chart is accurate or not, but I do know it's misleading as hell since it's a known FACT that Obama increased the debt by well over what Bush did. |
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Dec 19, 2016 0:38:34 GMT -5
As business major in college, I remember the econ classes where we students were shown how different presidents increased our national deficit. In spite of tough talk, the Republicans ALWAYS outspent the Democratic Party. I pulled up this graph to show nothing has changed. And, since "The Donald" seems to live for walking away from big bills, I expect his future presidency will make things a LOT worse.
I don't know if that chart is accurate or not, but I do know it's misleading as hell since it's a known FACT that Obama increased the debt by well over what Bush did. Conveniently, you are ifnoring the interest on tbe debt. Interest which is owed regardless. The deficit decreased under Obama. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2016 0:48:58 GMT -5
I don't know if that chart is accurate or not, but I do know it's misleading as hell since it's a known FACT that Obama increased the debt by well over what Bush did. Conveniently, you are ifnoring the interest on tbe debt. Interest which is owed regardless. The deficit decreased under Obama. Nope. Not ignoring anything. The debt was one thing at one time. Then it was another thing at another time. Then it was a third thing at a third time. If Bush gets "charged" for interest that occurred during his presidency, then so does Obama. Doing that is calling things equally. |
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Post by Blonde Granny on Dec 19, 2016 7:23:41 GMT -5
the new administration's deficits will make us long for the good old days of Obama. Oh please!!!!!!!!! Can't wait for his last trip to Hawaii. Wonder how long he can keep his mouth shut before everything is all about him. 10 minutes is my best guess. |
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Post by rob base on Dec 19, 2016 8:30:11 GMT -5
You guys realize the OP title is misleading...correct?
It's just the Navy's "plan". There's still this thing called "sequestration".
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Post by dezailoooooo on Dec 19, 2016 9:42:46 GMT -5
the new administration's deficits will make us long for the good old days of Obama. Oh please!!!!!!!!! Can't wait for his last trip to Hawaii. Wonder how long he can keep his mouth shut before everything is all about him. 10 minutes is my best guess. Oh Please yourself!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He's entitled...Will be writing a book...Doing the Speaking circuit for big bucks...why not...he had accomplishments even though u don't care for them..as far as speaking out if he wants to..he paid his dues...I wonder if he will be speaking out against the Donald though...usually the formers don't but with the Donald there..this is a different kind of animal we will have as POTUS |
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Post by billisonboard on Dec 19, 2016 10:11:32 GMT -5
... ...I wonder if he will be speaking out against the Donald though...usually the formers don't but with the Donald there..this is a different kind of animal we will have as POTUS I hope Obama continues in the tradition of former presidents. There are plenty of others who can critique the Trump Administration. |
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Post by dezailoooooo on Dec 19, 2016 10:20:40 GMT -5
... ...I wonder if he will be speaking out against the Donald though...usually the formers don't but with the Donald there..this is a different kind of animal we will have as POTUS I hope Obama continues in the tradition of former presidents. There are plenty of others who can critique the Trump Administration. Agree unless the Donald goes off the deep end and he feels he has to speak out....we will have to see...So far and it's my opinion here...the Donald has been irresponsible in so many of his tweets and comments..reacting with knee jerk reactions and then having to basically retract or find another to put blame on...time to become more presidential,,it's on him now |
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Post by billisonboard on Dec 19, 2016 11:03:26 GMT -5
... unless the Donald goes off the deep end and he feels he has to speak out.... ... There will be no need for Obama to speak out if Trump "goes off the deep end" depending on definition. I think some of Candidate Trump's comments during the campaign dipped a toe in but most of what he proposed I simply disagreed with. I am waiting to see what he actually does in office and how Congress responds. If it is truly "deep end" and not just partisan differences, then we have the check of the Supreme Court as well. If we are talking tweets about drones, we have dez@dezailoooooo to set Trump straight so won't need Obama to step in.  |
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Post by rob base on Dec 19, 2016 11:16:57 GMT -5
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Post by dezailoooooo on Dec 19, 2016 11:53:45 GMT -5
... unless the Donald goes off the deep end and he feels he has to speak out.... ... There will be no need for Obama to speak out if Trump "goes off the deep end" depending on definition. I think some of Candidate Trump's comments during the campaign dipped a toe in but most of what he proposed I simply disagreed with. I am waiting to see what he actually does in office and how Congress responds. If it is truly "deep end" and not just partisan differences, then we have the check of the Supreme Court as well. If we are talking tweets about drones, we have dez@dezailoooooo to set Trump straight so won't need Obama to step in. Thar ya go...  ...right on target,,LOL,,,  |
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