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Post by suesinfl on Nov 25, 2016 6:29:45 GMT -5
We’re not sure what happened to it, but her truck was broken into a couple of months ago and the only thing that they took was cash in her wallet. She swears that her SS card, DL, debit card, student ID, etc. were in her wallet when the cops found it by a dumpster.
So now we have to figure out what to do. She’s 19 and has no credit history, so we will run credit reports and put a fraud alert with them and get a new card.
I check my bank accounts daily and have access to her accounts so I will be monitoring them closely. Anything else I need to do?
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Post by tskeeter on Nov 25, 2016 10:02:09 GMT -5
We’re not sure what happened to it, but her truck was broken into a couple of months ago and the only thing that they took was cash in her wallet. She swears that her SS card, DL, debit card, student ID, etc. were in her wallet when the cops found it by a dumpster. So now we have to figure out what to do. She’s 19 and has no credit history, so we will run credit reports and put a fraud alert with them and get a new card. I check my bank accounts daily and have access to her accounts so I will be monitoring them closely. Anything else I need to do? You might consider providing DD some guidance on how to monitor her bank account and credit history and let her have at it. Your DD is a young adult. And this is the type of situation adults deal with. Dealing with the inconvenience is a good way to help her understand that carrying your SS card in your wallet is not a good idea. For the exact reason she has learned. Note that I do expect that you'll do some monitoring, too. Or, at least, monitor the monitoring. Because, you are a parent and that is what parents do.
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Post by phil5185 on Nov 25, 2016 11:45:16 GMT -5
Off-topic. But has anyone needed their physical SS card in recent decades? I don't recall the last tie that I was asked to show my card - maybe in the Army 50 years ago?
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Nov 25, 2016 11:54:33 GMT -5
Off-topic. But has anyone needed their physical SS card in recent decades? I don't recall the last tie that I was asked to show my card - maybe in the Army 50 years ago? Seriously.
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Post by billisonboard on Nov 25, 2016 11:58:37 GMT -5
Off-topic. But has anyone needed their physical SS card in recent decades? I don't recall the last tie that I was asked to show my card - maybe in the Army 50 years ago? It is one of the acceptable documents to use on an I9 to verify eligibility for employment. We had to do a change in how we were compensated recently and I showed mine to the person signing the form. I frequently see them when I am the one signing it.
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Nov 25, 2016 12:01:33 GMT -5
Off-topic. But has anyone needed their physical SS card in recent decades? I don't recall the last tie that I was asked to show my card - maybe in the Army 50 years ago? It is one of the acceptable documents to use on an I9 to verify eligibility for employment. We had to do a change in how we were compensated recently and I showed mine to the person signing the form. I frequently see them when I am the one signing it. Sure, but does that require carrying it around on a daily basis? I carry as little as possible in my wallet: DL, ins cards and 2 CC's. Everything else is in my file cabinet where I can get it if I anticipate needing it.
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Post by billisonboard on Nov 25, 2016 12:05:31 GMT -5
It is one of the acceptable documents to use on an I9 to verify eligibility for employment. We had to do a change in how we were compensated recently and I showed mine to the person signing the form. I frequently see them when I am the one signing it. Sure, but does that require carrying it around on a daily basis? ... No.
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Nov 25, 2016 12:07:30 GMT -5
Off-topic. But has anyone needed their physical SS card in recent decades? I don't recall the last tie that I was asked to show my card - maybe in the Army 50 years ago? My work needed the kids' to get them on insurance after birth. I may needed them to enroll them in school too. Not sure on that.
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Nov 25, 2016 12:12:19 GMT -5
Off-topic. But has anyone needed their physical SS card in recent decades? I don't recall the last tie that I was asked to show my card - maybe in the Army 50 years ago? My work needed the kids' to get them on insurance after birth. I may needed them to enroll them in school too. Not sure on that. Why would you need the physical card to enroll them in school? Even if they want the #'s can't you just fill that in?
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Post by billisonboard on Nov 25, 2016 12:17:28 GMT -5
My work needed the kids' to get them on insurance after birth. I may needed them to enroll them in school too. Not sure on that. Why would you need the physical card to enroll them in school? Even if they want the #'s can't you just fill that in? One idea would be some level of visual evidence that a person isn't just writing some random 9 numbers.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Nov 25, 2016 13:14:40 GMT -5
Off-topic. But has anyone needed their physical SS card in recent decades? I don't recall the last tie that I was asked to show my card - maybe in the Army 50 years ago? My work needed the kids' to get them on insurance after birth. I may needed them to enroll them in school too. Not sure on that. Don't birth certificates do the same thing? Insurance should have no access to your SS#, and neither should schools. I'd balk at this. SS cards should not be used this way. I know that my job required birth certificates and marriage licenses as proof, not SS cards. I have no idea where my SS card is.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Nov 25, 2016 13:16:07 GMT -5
We’re not sure what happened to it, but her truck was broken into a couple of months ago and the only thing that they took was cash in her wallet. She swears that her SS card, DL, debit card, student ID, etc. were in her wallet when the cops found it by a dumpster. So now we have to figure out what to do. She’s 19 and has no credit history, so we will run credit reports and put a fraud alert with them and get a new card. I check my bank accounts daily and have access to her accounts so I will be monitoring them closely. Anything else I need to do? I would suggest that at 19, you show her what to do but this becomes HER responsibility.
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Post by souldoubt on Nov 25, 2016 13:42:03 GMT -5
The only time I've ever needed my SS card was when I started a new job but other than that no need to have it on you. Use this as a learning experience to teach her to not keep her SS card in her wallet and more importantly to not leave her wallet or anything of value in her car. The only people I know who have had cars broken into left something like a wallet, laptop or something else of value in plain sight.
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Post by giramomma on Nov 25, 2016 14:07:44 GMT -5
My work needed the kids' to get them on insurance after birth. I may needed them to enroll them in school too. Not sure on that. Don't birth certificates do the same thing? Insurance should have no access to your SS#, and neither should schools. I'd balk at this. SS cards should not be used this way. I know that my job required birth certificates and marriage licenses as proof, not SS cards. I have no idea where my SS card is. My work requires my kids' SS as well for health insurance purposes. I work for the state, and I'm the only one with a job with health insurance. As much as I'd like to fight the system, I'm not sure doing so would be in our interests.
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Post by alabamagal on Nov 25, 2016 16:25:57 GMT -5
In Alabama I needed it to get my driver license. First time I showed up I had my passport, picture is that verifies I am a citizen. Didn't work had to find my ss card. But this is Alabama.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Nov 25, 2016 16:44:37 GMT -5
Don't birth certificates do the same thing? Insurance should have no access to your SS#, and neither should schools. I'd balk at this. SS cards should not be used this way. I know that my job required birth certificates and marriage licenses as proof, not SS cards. I have no idea where my SS card is. My work requires my kids' SS as well for health insurance purposes. I work for the state, and I'm the only one with a job with health insurance. As much as I'd like to fight the system, I'm not sure doing so would be in our interests. Sorry, I was wrong about this. However, your insurance company is not allowed to use your ssn as an identifier anymore and your doctor's office does not need it either. www.irs.gov/affordable-care-act/questions-and-answers-about-reporting-social-security-numbers-to-your-health-insurance-company
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Post by NoNamePerson on Nov 25, 2016 16:57:36 GMT -5
Back when I did payroll a SS card was required. I didn't take anyone's word as to their no. No card no paycheck. I know they e verify no's now so maybe not necessary. I made a copy of card for file. And most people used it as one of two forms of ID for I-9 form. Don't know if I-9 form is even used now. Been a while since I have been in work force. I don't carry my SS card or my red white and blue medicare card with me unless I know I will have to show it. I guard mine like gold. Sorry this happened. But maybe a lesson learned early and it sounds like you have taken proper precautions.
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Post by taz157 on Nov 25, 2016 17:58:54 GMT -5
I-9 forms are still required by employers for their employees.
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Post by naughtybear on Nov 25, 2016 18:11:03 GMT -5
My kids got all what they needed at 18, if something happened to them (or has happened to them) it's not really that difficult for them to google what needs to be done. I am certainly not going to be monitoring their shit at that age.
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Post by suesinfl on Nov 25, 2016 18:46:52 GMT -5
She's a good kid, just thinks mom is stupid and doesn't know anything. She has her birth certificate, insurance cards, passport, and knows that I'm not bailing her out of self-made trouble. I'm not worrying about the loss of the card, it's just if it gets into the wrong hands and the mess it can cause that makes me worry.
She doesn't seem to be upset over the loss, even though I explained what could happen. It's in her lap now. I'm done with trying to explain how the world works, even though I've been doing that for years. One day she will realize that mom does know what she's talking about on some things. ***sigh***.
Thank you everyone for your help.
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Post by NoNamePerson on Nov 25, 2016 18:57:30 GMT -5
I-9 forms are still required by employers for their employees. Thanks for reply . Wasn't sure since many years since doing pr stuff.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2016 19:27:13 GMT -5
DH carries his Medicare card, which has his SSN on it. I hate it. I read somewhere that they were going to start taking it off the Medicare cards.
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Post by countrygirl on Nov 25, 2016 19:33:50 GMT -5
Apparently none of you have Medicaid or get services through the state for your adult "child" we are asked for all forms of ID quite often. Just ordered a new SS and medicare card for her, had to have them for her ID. Indiana required more id to get a state ID then was required for me to get her a passport. Crazy
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Post by Blonde Granny on Nov 25, 2016 19:52:15 GMT -5
Most of the places I've been to recently have now gone to your SS number and all they as for is the "last 4" The VA has been doing that for at least 5 years , maybe more. The oral surgeon asked for the last 4 also.
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Post by TheOtherMe on Nov 25, 2016 20:20:30 GMT -5
DH carries his Medicare card, which has his SSN on it. I hate it. I read somewhere that they were going to start taking it off the Medicare cards. I hate that Medicare cards have my SSN on it. I do not understand the reason. Since you truly never know when you need insurance cards, I do carry that. SS card is only with me when I start a new job. I remember when my SSN used to be on my health insurance card. That has changed so I hope the Medicare cards follow suit and soon.
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Post by milee on Nov 25, 2016 20:23:41 GMT -5
Many places ask for your SS number, but that doesn't mean you have to give it to them. And I don't. I've seen the school record keeping systems - there is no way in Hades I'm filling in my kids' social security numbers on school forms. Yet every year the forms come home with a place for social security numbers and every year I leave that blank... nothing happens. Which drives me even more crazy since they're asking for this information but apparently they don't use it for anything (or surely they would have called me on not giving it by now) and leave it in totally unsecured filing cabinets in unsecured areas where literally hundreds of random students, parents, employees and vendors wander through every day. Same thing with most medical providers. Every single one asks for SS# yet I almost never fill that in and it's rarely an issue. My question to them if they ask is - what are you going to use it for? Especially to the ones where I have no insurance coverage (eye docs, dentists for example) and will be paying for the services right then and there - why would they need my SS#? With the increase of identity theft and knowing how poorly many places secure client/patient records, I rarely hand over my SS#, even if they ask.
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Post by NoNamePerson on Nov 25, 2016 21:04:50 GMT -5
DH carries his Medicare card, which has his SSN on it. I hate it. I read somewhere that they were going to start taking it off the Medicare cards. Why does he carry it? Just curious. When I had to go to doc 3 yrs ago friend told me to be sure and carry it. When I got to check in desk I threw it and my BCBS card down. Girl shoved the Medicare card back to me and said she didn't need it. As for removing it from Medicare cards I read where "they" said it would be a big mess and cause confusion. Wonder why they don't just start at some point and not use it. Maybe leave ones that already have SS on card like it is. Our gubment at work.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2016 21:59:22 GMT -5
DH carries his Medicare card, which has his SSN on it. I hate it. I read somewhere that they were going to start taking it off the Medicare cards. Why does he carry it? Just curious. When I had to go to doc 3 yrs ago friend told me to be sure and carry it. When I got to check in desk I threw it and my BCBS card down. Girl shoved the Medicare card back to me and said she didn't need it. He has to have it just like you have to have any other insurance card. They make a copy of it along with the Peehip card. I'm not sure why yours doesn't. I'll agree that they are really only interested in billing the non-Medicare provider. We got a Medicare statement today. We insisted that the eye doctor who did the cataract surgery also file Medicare, and our bill went from $350 to $29. It wasn't that Medicare pays that much, though. It's what Medicare allows and what the insured is required to pay. Still they got a better payment from Peehip/BCBS as well. I understand why they don't want to involve Medicare ($300+ more for them), but I feel sorry for those who don't insist. We are actually paying twice--family insurance plus Medicare. They shouldn't begrudge filing.
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Post by NoNamePerson on Nov 25, 2016 22:18:17 GMT -5
Why does he carry it? Just curious. When I had to go to doc 3 yrs ago friend told me to be sure and carry it. When I got to check in desk I threw it and my BCBS card down. Girl shoved the Medicare card back to me and said she didn't need it. He has to have it just like you have to have any other insurance card. They make a copy of it along with the Peehip card. I'm not sure why yours doesn't. I'll agree that they are really only interested in billing the non-Medicare provider. We got a Medicare statement today. We insisted that the eye doctor who did the cataract surgery also file Medicare, and our bill went from $350 to $29. It wasn't that Medicare pays that much, though. It's what Medicare allows and what the insured is required to pay. Still they got a better payment from Peehip/BCBS as well. I understand why they don't want to involve Medicare ($300+ more for them), but I feel sorry for those who don't insist. We are actually paying twice--family insurance plus Medicare. They shouldn't begrudge filing. Interesting. This was the only time I've used Medicare so clueless. I do plan to take the red white and blue card with me if have future needs just to be on safe side. I do keep BCBS card with me.
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Post by wvugurl26 on Nov 25, 2016 22:42:41 GMT -5
There is currently a five year project to remove the SSNs from the Medicare cards. Now whether priorities change with a new president and a new administrator of CMS I don't know.
Real ID act I think requires states to verify your SSN. My brother has to renew his license next month and basically he needs his SSN or his W2.
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