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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2016 10:50:06 GMT -5
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 12, 2016 10:58:30 GMT -5
i think she should absolutely have a full medical exam. she has nothing better to do right now, other than rest.
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Post by Green Eyed Lady on Sept 12, 2016 11:01:19 GMT -5
i think she should absolutely have a full medical exam. she has nothing better to do right now, other than rest. As do I. A person would have to be a serious state of denial to think otherwise. As we know, those people exist...right here.
On the flip-side, I think the other candidate is in need of a full mental health exam!
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 12, 2016 11:06:57 GMT -5
i think she should absolutely have a full medical exam. she has nothing better to do right now, other than rest. As do I. A person would have to be a serious state of denial to think otherwise. As we know, those people exist...right here.
On the flip-side, I think the other candidate is in need of a full mental health exam!
this post is a good example of why we like you, GEL.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 12, 2016 11:15:53 GMT -5
There's no time for a "what about Trump?" political tit for tat. The situation with Hillary Clinton must be urgently dealt with, or that will be "IT" for the Democratic party and the mainstream media. They're already teetering on the edge of the abyss. By the way- advanced stages of Parkinson's is all but certain. I have a friend writing a piece for Newswire right now- his hope is he can publish it before she dies in a few weeks- the crux of it: Aspiration pneumonia is extremely common in Parkinson's disease patients- and is, in fact, the leading cause of death among Parkinson's sufferers. Coughing fits are from mucus drainage that gets into the lungs- and Parkinson's patients will often hack up phlem, and may even have coughing spasms which result in vomiting which we saw Hillary do last week when she spit something into that glass. Already a PRNewswire informal internet survey of 250 physicians conducted by the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS) came back with 71% of those physicians surveyed stating that concerns about Hillary's health are "serious / could be disqualifying for the position of POTUS" - 9/8/16 PRNewswire-USNewswire Again- denial is gaslighting pure and simple- we are seeing what we are seeing. Hillary's health is in rapid decline, and she is in the last stages of a serious neurological condition. A board-Certified Anesthesiologist has written a memo on Hillary's health which you can see here: www.dangerandplay.com/2016/08/12/hillary-clinton-has-parkinsons-disease-physician-confirms/Whatever the answer is, it isn't "sneezing", it's not "allergies to Trump, hahahaha", and it's not simply "pneumonia", and "trust us, she's fine" is no longer an acceptable response to the public's demand to know what the hell is going on.
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Post by Green Eyed Lady on Sept 12, 2016 11:20:41 GMT -5
This most certainly IS time for a Clinton/Trump tit-for-tat. If not now, when? I hate to be the one to inform you of this, but they both suck. Nobody who isn't party-brainwashed could say that either of these two are good candidates. It's going to come down to who sucks just a little bit less.
Normally, I would agree with you. It aggravates me that we can't have a thread without, "Welllllll....Trump..." or "Well....Clinton" but I'm just smart enough to know that it might be necessary because neither one of them can stand on their own merits.
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Post by justme on Sept 12, 2016 11:21:58 GMT -5
Oh my, coughing leads to dying in a few weeks? Probably should go sue the doctor that put me on asthma meds a decade ago for coughing fits. He didn't realize I was on my death bed. He also missed my Parkinson's disease, cuz I collapsed from heat exhaustion when I was like 12 and I cough.
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 12, 2016 11:30:53 GMT -5
There's no time for a "what about Trump?" political tit for tat. yeah there is. we got 60 days left for that, my friend.
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 12, 2016 11:32:40 GMT -5
Already a PRNewswire informal internet survey of 250 physicians conducted by the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS) came back with 71% of those physicians surveyed stating that concerns about Hillary's health are "serious / could be disqualifying for the position of POTUS" - 9/8/16 PRNewswire-USNewswire. then 71% of physicians are stupid. what can i say? now, it might be possible that 71% of the US public is stupid, too, mind you, so the political impact COULD be serious for Clinton, but i have my doubts.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2016 11:38:53 GMT -5
I really hope someone gives her a spit cup or at least a Kleenex because watching her cough up a lung and then drinking from the same water is pretty disgusting I'm also not sure why she coughs into the mike instead of covering it during her coughing fits. Take a break, cough it up, spit it out, come back when you can speak, jeez.
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Post by Opti on Sept 12, 2016 11:41:59 GMT -5
There's no time for a "what about Trump?" political tit for tat. The situation with Hillary Clinton must be urgently dealt with, or that will be "IT" for the Democratic party and the mainstream media. They're already teetering on the edge of the abyss. By the way- advanced stages of Parkinson's is all but certain. I have a friend writing a piece for Newswire right now- his hope is he can publish it before she dies in a few weeks- the crux of it: Aspiration pneumonia is extremely common in Parkinson's disease patients- and is, in fact, the leading cause of death among Parkinson's sufferers. Coughing fits are from mucus drainage that gets into the lungs- and Parkinson's patients will often hack up phlem, and may even have coughing spasms which result in vomiting which we saw Hillary do last week when she spit something into that glass. Already a PRNewswire informal internet survey of 250 physicians conducted by the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS) came back with 71% of those physicians surveyed stating that concerns about Hillary's health are "serious / could be disqualifying for the position of POTUS" - 9/8/16 PRNewswire-USNewswire Again- denial is gaslighting pure and simple- we are seeing what we are seeing. Hillary's health is in rapid decline, and she is in the last stages of a serious neurological condition. A board-Certified Anesthesiologist has written a memo on Hillary's health which you can see here: www.dangerandplay.com/2016/08/12/hillary-clinton-has-parkinsons-disease-physician-confirms/Whatever the answer is, it isn't "sneezing", it's not "allergies to Trump, hahahaha", and it's not simply "pneumonia", and "trust us, she's fine" is no longer an acceptable response to the public's demand to know what the hell is going on. 1) She does not have Parkinsons.
2) AAPS is defined by an agenda, it would make sense they would see the worst.
The Association of American Physicians and Surgeons is a politically conservative non-profit association founded in 1943 to "fight socialized medicine and to fight the government takeover of medicine." From Wikipedia when I googled the organization.
3) I wouldn't trust your friend's medical knowledge at all. For example, in advanced cases, difficulty swallowing can cause Parkinson’s patients to aspirate food into the lungs, leading to pneumonia or other pulmonary conditions. www.michaeljfox.org/understanding-parkinsons/living-with-pd/topic.php?prognosis
scienceblogs.com/insolence/2016/09/07/no-there-is-no-evidence-that-hillary-clinton-has-parkinsons-disease/
Ever wonder why none of these videos shows actual patients with Parkinson’s disease with dyskinesia or resting tremors for comparison? (And, no, a static photo of Michael J. Fox looking “bug-eyed” doesn’t count.) Ever wonder why, out of literally thousands of hours of video of Hillary Clinton taken over the last two years and then before, when she was Secretary of State, that these few snippets of video that can be tortured to sort of look like Parkinson’s disease symptoms are the best that Dr. Noel (and before him, Martin Shkreli and Dr. Jane Orient) could come up with? Did you ever wonder why not a single board-certified neurologist has stepped forward and say, “Yeah, that looks like Parkinson’s”? The reason is simple. It doesn’t. Those startled looks are not dyskinesia, and that head bob is probably a nervous tic, not resting tremor. Seriously. Advanced Parkinson’s disease is not something you can hide when you’re on video hundreds, if not thousands, of hours a year. It’s just not. the very fact that these few snippets of video are the best that the conspiracy mongers can come up with is excellent evidence that Hillary Clinton does not have Parkinson’s disease.
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 12, 2016 11:42:02 GMT -5
By the way- advanced stages of Parkinson's is all but certain. I have a friend writing a piece for Newswire right now- his hope is he can publish it before she dies in a few weeks- the crux of it: Aspiration pneumonia is extremely common in Parkinson's disease patients- and is, in fact, the leading cause of death among Parkinson's sufferers. Coughing fits are from mucus drainage that gets into the lungs- and Parkinson's patients will often hack up phlem, and may even have coughing spasms which result in vomiting which we saw Hillary do last week when she spit something into that glass. . i am way more familiar with Parkinsons than most people on this board, and i have serious doubts about Clinton having the disease. if she does, it is a very mild case. the average prognosis is 15 years, and essential tremor can be controlled through medication, so it should not impact her ability to perform as a president EVEN IF SHE HAD IT.
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 12, 2016 11:47:02 GMT -5
ah. faith healers.
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 12, 2016 11:54:21 GMT -5
ah. faith healers. Pretty much. The WIki link cites a lot of the AAPS's positions on medical issues.
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Post by NoNamePerson on Sept 12, 2016 11:58:04 GMT -5
I wish they both could be declared physically and mentally incompetent and we just start over.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2016 12:00:35 GMT -5
I don't see anything unusual about a senior citizen getting lightheaded standing around for a long time, outside on a very hot day.
I was infuriated when CBS broke into the reading of the names with special announcements (twice!!) that said basically nothing other than Clinton left the ceremony early. On a left leaning media source, a Democrat will often get special consideration. It's where all the Democrat elitist stories get started for certain individuals. The elitism will be denied later of course. It'll be back to "stronger together".
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2016 12:09:47 GMT -5
You beat me to it Tenn...Doctors reported she has it..prescribed antibiotics..for her to cut back a bit on her campaigning..rest.. now I guess Donald and friends will be suggesting not strong enough for the office..[What say you Donald supporters here] Like any other candidate running for office, he should take advantage of the situation and use it for his own gain. We'll see if he's up to speed and does it while appearing concerned and caring for her personal well being.
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Post by happyhoix on Sept 12, 2016 12:12:52 GMT -5
By the way- advanced stages of Parkinson's is all but certain. I have a friend writing a piece for Newswire right now- his hope is he can publish it before she dies in a few weeks- the crux of it: So she'll be dead in two weeks huh?
Is this another one of your don't.doubt.me.ever posts?
Because I think I doubt you.
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 12, 2016 12:16:50 GMT -5
By the way- advanced stages of Parkinson's is all but certain. I have a friend writing a piece for Newswire right now- his hope is he can publish it before she dies in a few weeks- the crux of it: So she'll be dead in two weeks huh?
Is this another one of your don't.doubt.me.ever posts?
Because I think I doubt you.
Strange sources he has. Probably the same source who told him the Battle of Tours took place on 9/11 (the reason why radical Islamist terrorists selected that date to hijack the planes on September 11, 2001).
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2016 12:17:42 GMT -5
That, paul, is NOT a seizure. no. it is her clowning about 1 second longer than any normal human. i am sure that is distressing to Paul. mmhmm - how common is Pneumonia in the 68+ community? The concern would be more, why is she getting it now? The pneumonia shots for the seniors aren't even being advertised yet. It's the wrong time of year. Healthy 68 year olds, heck 78 year olds are at little risk for pneumonia this time of year.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2016 12:22:52 GMT -5
no. it is her clowning about 1 second longer than any normal human. i am sure that is distressing to Paul. mmhmm- how common is Pneumonia in the 68+ community? The CDC linked article below states all adults 65 years of age and older should get the pneumococcal polysaccharide vaccine It also states 18,000 older adults die each year from pneumococcal disease in the U.S. I got my first pneumococcal polysaccharide vaccine shot around the age of 60. I need to get another one soon and every few years or so after the next one just to be safe. Pneumococcal Polysaccharide VaccineWas there information reported any where that she has received the immunization shot at any time in the past. I can't find anything. She should of if she's 68 and getting the correct care.
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Post by mmhmm on Sept 12, 2016 12:25:25 GMT -5
By the way- advanced stages of Parkinson's is all but certain. I have a friend writing a piece for Newswire right now- his hope is he can publish it before she dies in a few weeks- the crux of it: Aspiration pneumonia is extremely common in Parkinson's disease patients- and is, in fact, the leading cause of death among Parkinson's sufferers. Coughing fits are from mucus drainage that gets into the lungs- and Parkinson's patients will often hack up phlem, and may even have coughing spasms which result in vomiting which we saw Hillary do last week when she spit something into that glass. . i am way more familiar with Parkinsons than most people on this board, and i have serious doubts about Clinton having the disease. if she does, it is a very mild case. the average prognosis is 15 years, and essential tremor can be controlled through medication, so it should not impact her ability to perform as a president EVEN IF SHE HAD IT. I, too, am quite familiar with Parkinson's. I have seen no signs of it in Mrs. Clinton. As to essential tremor, I have it (and have had it for many years) as did my father and as does my brother. It's genetic. Mine is controlled by a low dose of the beta blocker Inderal. It's really no big deal. All the amateur "doctoring" going on is not only ridiculous, it's downright harmful to those who don't have a lick of understanding about these medical issues - including those who are waxing stupid about them.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2016 12:28:38 GMT -5
Her campaign would be wise to release everything about this "episode" and get out in front of it on the news wires, to tamp down the speculation that is ensuing. Of course no matter what the truth is it won't dampen the fervor of those who want to believe the worst for her for political reasons, but for the vast majority of the electorate it will answer the concerns we might have. For those who will believe any theory, no matter the truth, well they will just carry on..... The theories get started because she was diagnosed with pneumonia on Friday and say nothing until something public happens the following Sunday. She appears to be hiding something. No different than the theory that Trump is hiding something because he doesn't release his tax returns.
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Post by mmhmm on Sept 12, 2016 12:30:12 GMT -5
no. it is her clowning about 1 second longer than any normal human. i am sure that is distressing to Paul. mmhmm - how common is Pneumonia in the 68+ community? The concern would be more, why is she getting it now? The pneumonia shots for the seniors aren't even being advertised yet. It's the wrong time of year. Healthy 68 year olds, heck 78 year olds are at little risk for pneumonia this time of year. I wouldn't be concerned about that. Pneumococcal pneumonia (that which is targeted by this vaccine) isn't the only kind of pneumonia. There are quite a few other microorganisms that can cause pneumonia and they're not targeted by the vaccine. There is no "wrong time of year" for pneumonia. It can be contracted at any time of year. Please, update your medical knowledge before putting forth erroneous information. Thanks, ever so.
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Post by happyhoix on Sept 12, 2016 12:40:56 GMT -5
no. it is her clowning about 1 second longer than any normal human. i am sure that is distressing to Paul. mmhmm - how common is Pneumonia in the 68+ community? The concern would be more, why is she getting it now? The pneumonia shots for the seniors aren't even being advertised yet. It's the wrong time of year. Healthy 68 year olds, heck 78 year olds are at little risk for pneumonia this time of year. There is no 'wrong' time of the year to get pneumonia.
I've had it twice, once when I was about 35, once when I was about 40. Both times I was working lots of hours, at a job I didn't like much, while at the same time had lots of family/charity commitments and a certain amount of traveling I was obligated to do. (Riding on airplanes is one of the best ways share infectious diseases). Lots of stress, not much sleep, poor diet.
Sound like the life of pretty much any POTUS candidate?
It's probably somewhat miraculous that the POTUS candidates and their families don't end up sick more often, what with the schedules they keep and the number of dirty hands/germy babies they shake or kiss.
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 12, 2016 12:48:49 GMT -5
The CDC linked article below states all adults 65 years of age and older should get the pneumococcal polysaccharide vaccine It also states 18,000 older adults die each year from pneumococcal disease in the U.S. I got my first pneumococcal polysaccharide vaccine shot around the age of 60. I need to get another one soon and every few years or so after the next one just to be safe. Pneumococcal Polysaccharide VaccineWas there information reported any where that she has received the immunization shot at any time in the past. I can't find anything. She should of if she's 68 and getting the correct care. I have no idea if and when she ever received the vaccination. But if she received the vaccination before the age of 65 (like I did), she will need to wait at least 5 years to get re-vaccinated as the medical profession recommends. Getting re-vaccinated can have negative side affects if both shots are within five years of each other. It has been over five years since I was first vaccinated and this is a good reminder to me to get re-vaccinated at my next doctor's appointment (in two weeks) now that I am 65 years old. Pneumococcal Vaccine: Vaccinate! Revaccinate??
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Post by justme on Sept 12, 2016 12:50:01 GMT -5
Given the propensity for people to have started a death clock for her, it probably would have been wise for her to get out in front of it. But I don't think every sniffle is important to carrying out presidential duties. I'm quite positive Obama has been sick at least once in eight years, but hell if I ever heard about it.
Much different than not disclosing tax records which, ya know, could possibly prove points when trump lied or was an outright hypocrite.
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Post by justme on Sept 12, 2016 12:54:01 GMT -5
Blargh! There is no vaccine that is 100% so the fact that she got pneumonia is not ipso facto that she never had the vaccine. Even playing dumb to the fact that the vaccine only stops one type of bacteria that causes pneumonia, whereas there's bacteria, viruses, and fungi that cause it. Furthermore, while it's wise to have any vaccine you can I don't think failing to have one is on the list of disqualification of presidency.
PS damn you all for making me be on Hillary's side with this nonsense.
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