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Post by dezailoooooo on Sept 11, 2016 20:05:16 GMT -5
And now "seasonal allergies" that resulted in a four and a half minute coughing spasm and spitting (vomiting?) into a glass and taking a swig to cover it up turned into pneumonia. And there are types of pneumonia-- so what's she got? She was diagnosed Friday- it's Sunday. You may not like the fact that with 57 days out, because of constant rigging, and running a stealth campaign-- you're just now finding out your candidate's campaign is effectively over, but that's the way it's looking. The way I see it, she's got until the first debate to square her shit away, or she's toast. She totally bombed the Commander In Chief forum. If she craps out in the first debate-- she will have a hard time recovering. I woke up today thinking the Clinton campaign has collapsed- this just seals it. The Hillary Clinton campaign is on life support and it's looking more and more like it's time to pull the plug. Oh, I wonder what the explanation is going to be for the unidentified metal object that falls from Hillary's pant leg as she collapses? A leg pin or brace is now standard treatment for pneumonia, I suppose.... Paul was thinking..are you going to pull same act after this election as u did the last one..[POTUS one] after Hillery wins..you coming on and saying again how wrong u were..tearing your shirt in mourning then disappearing for a while..then quietly sneaking back into the forum? Just wondering...it's that u are just so in on your predictions and down on all of the rest of us...I am confident but still very leery about the outcome.. On this one I am very afraiid for the country if the Donald prevailed..never felt this way before in other elections..always felt if those who I didn't support won the country would be fine..do well..those chosen would be ok. I think I can almost understand the vitril against O'bama by some..well almost understand..the majority of that I believe came about because so many couldn't stand seeing his color in that oval office..but still, hope I never get to feel that way... Don't feel that this time...in any way...When so many of respected Pubs, former POTUS, military, elected are against the Donald..sorry..that does say something to me..as much as respected liberal folks such as Zakaria are against the man.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 11, 2016 21:13:37 GMT -5
Gearing up for the 'ol bait and switch? Does this sound like a guy not running for President?
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 11, 2016 21:15:41 GMT -5
See, Little Barry- the whole Dem party made a deal in 2008: It's Hillary's turn. Look at Barry standing there making sure 'ol Joe gives the right speech-- and listen to it. This was a speech written to go either way. And now, we may see it go another way..
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 11, 2016 21:17:24 GMT -5
She didn't duck into a fan. She fell flat on her face and was loaded into the van. I can't help you see what you don't want to see- but the video is very clear. I'd rather dip my testicles in gasoline and run naked through a burning hayfield than have Crooked Hillary in the Oval Office... but... you didn't see what you thought you saw. That wasn't a seizure. That was heat exhaustion, maybe even heat stroke. I've seen it MANY times during my former time as an ambulance driver. You don't "swoon" (as she did) from a stroke. From a stroke you drop to the floor like a marionette that's had it's strings suddenly cut. That other thing (the interview where she backed her head up several times) wasn't a seizure either. It was likely brought on by "brain freeze". Did I say stroke? She seized up. And what's with the thing that falls out of her pant leg?
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 11, 2016 21:20:19 GMT -5
I'd rather dip my testicles in gasoline and run naked through a burning hayfield than have Crooked Hillary in the Oval Office... but... you didn't see what you thought you saw. That wasn't a seizure. That was heat exhaustion, maybe even heat stroke. I've seen it MANY times during my former time as an ambulance driver. You don't "swoon" (as she did) from a stroke. From a stroke you drop to the floor like a marionette that's had it's strings suddenly cut. That other thing (the interview where she backed her head up several times) wasn't a seizure either. It was likely brought on by "brain freeze". Did I say stroke? She seized up. And what's with the thing that falls out of her pant leg? that is part of her robotic limb.
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Post by dezailoooooo on Sept 11, 2016 21:24:56 GMT -5
Gearing up for the 'ol bait and switch? Does this sound like a guy not running for President? Your suggesting that the VP at this late date might be angling to run for the office..? This short announcement was his answer to those wanting him to consider runing for the office..as he says..that period has passed..for what ever reason..possible his sons illness then passing had everything to do with it. I would haveloved to see him run and hear his ideas but thank him for his service..would love to see him involved in the new government..probably make a great Sec of State but the travel and time dedicated to that job would be a reach. I can see him as a trusted advisor to Madam President..possible taking on some role in international relations...
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Post by Kolt! on Sept 11, 2016 21:25:49 GMT -5
LOL Okay. I'd rather risk an ill Clinton that passes away and we get her VP for President.
Her health will never make me go OH MAN. I'm supporting Trump now!
Like people and the entire health issue are crazy. Who cares if she's ill? She's not in her twenties anymore. The illnesses she has been having as well do not EFFECT her judgement.
I know people that have constant seizures but I in NO way believe that that means they can't make decisions and can't think coherently.
If anything those shouting Clinton has health issues so she's incompetent make me assume they're really the incompetent ones.
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Post by Kolt! on Sept 11, 2016 21:44:25 GMT -5
Also, people seem to fail to realize the illnesses she could or could not have people here, and all over have these illnesses. And you know what? A lot do work and they're good at what they do.
You're basically telling them oh because you have seizures, or because you walk funny, or because you cough every so often man you're not thinking straight, you're incompetent because of your illness.
For crying out loud we had a man in a wheelchair for Presidency.
And you know what the risk of someone dying happens every day not just with illnesses. It could happen to Trump too, he's not exactly "in shape" by any means. I'd take Clinton's VP over Pence ten times over.
Pence to me is by far worse then Trump. I was actually considering looking toward Trump over Clinton before the VP nomination happened. As soon as Pence was elected I stopped looking to Trump and I'm glad I have because after his campaign has just gotten worse.
Pence in my honest opinion is one of the worse politicians that the United States has seen.
And I'm absolutely disgusted at anyone that can claim someone that has seizures is too incompetent to be President or do any sort of jobs. One of my high school friends had seizures and she now works in a big law firm and she's doing AMAZING at what she does. Having an illness does NOT mean you're unable to do a job.
I GUARANTEE you almost every President that has run has probably dealt with the flu, or a family member being sick, some probably had hospital visits, and deaths in the family where they probably were super depressed but ya know what? That didn't mean they didn't do their job they still did it.
Clinton should not be treated any differently then the President that was in the wheelchair, or the times that other Presidents have had the flu, or times where they needed a check up.
Her illness does NOT mean she is incompetent.
--FYI: I'm probably going Johnson this election season. But when I defend Clinton it's not me defending Clinton it's me saying what the actual heck...you're not just offending Clinton you're offending the many other men and women that have illnesses and claiming they can't do a job because of said illness when they most CERTAINLY can. An illness does not define a person. A seizure does not define my friend nor should it with Clinton.
If you're going to go after Clinton go after things that dont' go after a lot of other people. Go after her emails, go after her hair, go after what she defended in court so long ago that still makes me frown upon her even if it was the past, go after words she says...
Don't go after something MANY OTHER people have an claim someone incompetent because of it.
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Post by Kolt! on Sept 11, 2016 21:50:01 GMT -5
And you know what? That's the difference I see between people that bash Clinton here and Bash Trump when I stalk threads.
Trump supporters have been known to cry out they get in trouble for bashing Clinton but Non Trump Supporters don't get in trouble for bashing Trump.
When Trump get's bashed it's what he says and it's often about his hair. It doesn't bash a bunch of people like it does when Clinton is mentioned.
If I saw someone bashing Trump on what he wears I'd be like "what is even wrong with you?" because it's suits and men wear suits. If I saw someone bashing Trump because he was too overweight to do the job I'd be like "what the heck!? out of all the reasons you come up with too overweight?! overweight people are capable of doing a job!" I in no way believe that because Trump is overweight and could have serious health issues some day that that's the reason he shouldn't be President and I'd never list that as a reason. It's often what he says. What he says is his words, those words that don't belong to anyone else like an illness could.
Just like Clinton and the case of the emails if someone tells me that's why they don't trust her, I won't fight them. I know some would but I wouldn't because that's her, that's on her, that's on nobody else.
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Post by Jaguar on Sept 11, 2016 22:02:27 GMT -5
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Post by mmhmm on Sept 11, 2016 22:09:16 GMT -5
What seizures? You keep talking about these fictional seizures. She didn't merely faint- her leg is quivering-- it's not simply gone limp because she passed out-- she very clearly twitches-- just like in this EXTREMELY STRANGE episode which appears almost certainly to be a seizure (I posted this earlier- try to keep up): That, paul, is NOT a seizure.
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 11, 2016 22:12:29 GMT -5
She didn't merely faint- her leg is quivering-- it's not simply gone limp because she passed out-- she very clearly twitches-- just like in this EXTREMELY STRANGE episode which appears almost certainly to be a seizure (I posted this earlier- try to keep up): That, paul, is NOT a seizure. no. it is her clowning about 1 second longer than any normal human. i am sure that is distressing to Paul. mmhmm- how common is Pneumonia in the 68+ community?
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Post by Jaguar on Sept 11, 2016 22:16:21 GMT -5
I need chocolate.......
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Post by steff on Sept 11, 2016 22:25:28 GMT -5
It's dark chocolate season. Hershey's has their dark chocolate miniatures out right now. I have 2 bags of them in the freezer. dark chocolate krackles & mr goodbars.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2016 22:57:08 GMT -5
I'd rather dip my testicles in gasoline and run naked through a burning hayfield than have Crooked Hillary in the Oval Office... but... you didn't see what you thought you saw. That wasn't a seizure. That was heat exhaustion, maybe even heat stroke. I've seen it MANY times during my former time as an ambulance driver. You don't "swoon" (as she did) from a stroke. From a stroke you drop to the floor like a marionette that's had it's strings suddenly cut. That other thing (the interview where she backed her head up several times) wasn't a seizure either. It was likely brought on by "brain freeze". Did I say stroke? She seized up. And what's with the thing that falls out of her pant leg? My apologies. You are right I misread your purchase of the conspiracy bullschit. Problem is though... she didn't have a seizure either. I live with someone that has seizures all the time (step son, several times a month)... so I know them pretty well too. She had a swooning or delirium spell from either heat or dehydration... or both. Look... I'm the LAST guy to want to defend her... but at least only accuse her of things that are real... MMM'k?
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Post by weltschmerz on Sept 11, 2016 23:06:26 GMT -5
I'd rather dip my testicles in gasoline and run naked through a burning hayfield than have Crooked Hillary in the Oval Office... but... you didn't see what you thought you saw. That wasn't a seizure. That was heat exhaustion, maybe even heat stroke. I've seen it MANY times during my former time as an ambulance driver. You don't "swoon" (as she did) from a stroke. From a stroke you drop to the floor like a marionette that's had it's strings suddenly cut. That other thing (the interview where she backed her head up several times) wasn't a seizure either. It was likely brought on by "brain freeze". Did I say stroke? She seized up. And what's with the thing that falls out of her pant leg?It's one of her solid-steel balls. Next question?
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 11, 2016 23:15:29 GMT -5
That, paul, is NOT a seizure. no. it is her clowning about 1 second longer than any normal human. i am sure that is distressing to Paul. mmhmm- how common is Pneumonia in the 68+ community? The CDC linked article below states all adults 65 years of age and older should get the pneumococcal polysaccharide vaccine It also states 18,000 older adults die each year from pneumococcal disease in the U.S. I got my first pneumococcal polysaccharide vaccine shot around the age of 60. I need to get another one soon and every few years or so after the next one just to be safe. Pneumococcal Polysaccharide Vaccine
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Post by Kolt! on Sept 12, 2016 6:09:14 GMT -5
Did I say stroke? She seized up. And what's with the thing that falls out of her pant leg? My apologies. You are right I misread your purchase of the conspiracy bullschit. Problem is though... she didn't have a seizure either. I live with someone that has seizures all the time (step son, several times a month)... so I know them pretty well too. She had a swooning or delirium spell from either heat or dehydration... or both. Look... I'm the LAST guy to want to defend her... but at least only accuse her of things that are real... MMM'k? This. I'm pretty sure I've seen you as someone that hasn't "defended" her before as well.
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Post by Shooby on Sept 12, 2016 6:10:04 GMT -5
They could prop up her dead body and they still will vote for her.
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Post by zibazinski on Sept 12, 2016 7:24:04 GMT -5
Death is the only way to be rid of her. In jail she'd still win.
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Post by Green Eyed Lady on Sept 12, 2016 8:15:07 GMT -5
Whatever happened looks pretty serious to me. Heat stroke/exhaustion/pneumonia - they are all serious things. You all are like...jeez...it's JUST pneumonia! People die from that. Perhaps maybe a prayer or two (or well wishes) that she'll be ok and worry about whether she is healthy enough to govern after she recovers? I'm no Hillary fan but goodness sakes!
I don't know if I'm buying the pneumonia explanation. That poor lady was going fast. She was or did pass(ing) out. It apparent from the actions of her security that they did not want anybody seeing this happen...and I don't blame them. This is just a small example of what people think when they do see it. Whatever happened...I wish her a speedy recovery.
That doesn't mean I want to see her elected as POTUS but I'll reserve my opinion about her capabilities of doing the job after I get more information.
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Post by Opti on Sept 12, 2016 8:53:52 GMT -5
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Post by billisonboard on Sept 12, 2016 9:06:34 GMT -5
... At the far end lies a mild disease. The illness is known colloquially as walking pneumonia, so named because the illness rarely knocks anyone out of commission and into bed. Here is likely where we find Clinton, at least based on what her campaign has revealed so far. If "commission" was attending the ceremony, it did cause her to leave and and going to her daughter's apartment to rest sounds a lot like "bed" to me.
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Post by Opti on Sept 12, 2016 9:11:36 GMT -5
... At the far end lies a mild disease. The illness is known colloquially as walking pneumonia, so named because the illness rarely knocks anyone out of commission and into bed. Here is likely where we find Clinton, at least based on what her campaign has revealed so far. If "commission" was attending the ceremony, it did cause her to leave and and going to her daughter's apartment to rest sounds a lot like "bed" to me. Walking pneumonia is different from the more serious strains in that spending days in a hospital bed is usually not needed. Extended bed rest is different from regular or even slightly prolonged rest. MO.
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Post by Green Eyed Lady on Sept 12, 2016 9:26:00 GMT -5
I think we all know what heat stroke is. The health problems resulting can absolutely be chronic. As for her pneumonia - whatever type is was certainly did knock her out of commission. The poor woman nearly or did pass out. I'd say that's knocking her out of commission - even if it's only temporary.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 12, 2016 9:44:05 GMT -5
The Clinton campaign has collapsed. This is how it ends, people. It's over. And the Democratic Party and mainstream media have a quickly closing window left to salvage what's left of their credibility and blow the whistle, throw the flag, and stop this play. She's done. Wikileaks emails released have Clinton staffers calling her a "champion napper", "obsessed with sleep", and "in search of exotic drugs" to deal with what is apparently a neurological condition. Pneumonia? Heard it before... Breaking – Clinton Doctor: “Hillary Has Pneumonia” – Similar Excuse from October 2012… theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/09/11/breaking-clinton-doctor-hillary-has-pneumonia-similar-excuse-from-october-2012/All positive Hillary press and polls are mass "gaslighting". This is the way the Hillary Clinton campaign ends. The choices for the Democrats and the media are: 1. She's been totally independently vetted, there's nothing wrong- but they're concealing this information. Why? 2. She has been completely vetted and found unfit, but they're concealing this fact, or 3. They've not really bothered to vet her at all.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 12, 2016 9:46:55 GMT -5
Oh, and minor detail: "pneumonia", or "overheated"-- whatever the excuse: this is propaganda and PR. Not news. These stories are ALL- 100% "according to the Clinton campaign". Sorry- the people deserve independent verification right now.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 12, 2016 9:48:45 GMT -5
All positive coverage of Hillary Clinton is gaslighting. It's all designed to try and make you think something other than what you see all around you.
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Post by Opti on Sept 12, 2016 10:00:11 GMT -5
I think we all know what heat stroke is. The health problems resulting can absolutely be chronic. As for her pneumonia - whatever type is was certainly did knock her out of commission. The poor woman nearly or did pass out. I'd say that's knocking her out of commission - even if it's only temporary. OK the problems related to heat stroke can be chronic if it isn't caught in time and dealt with. This incident is far milder than what happened on Survivor and apparently he is OK because he was attended to medically very quickly.
I apparently missed the video evidence of her nearly passing out. When she gets in the van it almost appears that one of her helpers shoves her forward and causes her to stumble. Its a bad angle and I'd prefer to not draw many conclusions from it.
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Post by justme on Sept 12, 2016 10:01:50 GMT -5
The people deserve a lot of independent verification of a lot of stuff regarding trump too.
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