Monster Vote Calling: Can You Hear Us Now?

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

"There simply are more of us than them and there’s only so much the media can continue to do to try and hide that reality. In addition we are tuned in to the schemes and techniques used to manufacture the Potemkin village they seek to build around us..."

theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/06/24/the-peasants-are-revolting-disconnected-political-institutions-meet-their-monster-voters/

[Virgil Showlion]

I have to admit: your "monster vote" might actually exist.

Latest polls before the Brexit had "remain" leading by 8 points, well outside the margin of error for the actual result.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Jun 24, 2016 12:07:52 GMT -5 Virgil Showlion said:

I have to admit: your "monster vote" might actually exist.

Latest polls before the Brexit had "remain" leading by 8 points, well outside the margin of error for the actual result.

 If Nate Silver and company were using the voter data we have from this election cycle the exact same way they are using voter party id data dating back to 2011, they would see it. Indeed, I believe they do see it- but I think they doubt it. I think they're set in their ways, and they cannot admit that something different will happen in this election than in previous elections.

[happyhoix]

Or they aren't seeing it because it isn't there.

If you're allowed to post quotes from the conservative tree house can I start posting Salon quotes? I usually don't, because they are so outrageously biased towards the liberal side, I can't post them with a straight face.

But if we're going to accept what the far right sites are saying - fair's fair, I say.

[djAdvocate]

theconservativenuthouse is somewhat less reliable than you, Paul.

[djAdvocate]

Jun 24, 2016 15:11:45 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Jun 24, 2016 12:07:52 GMT -5 Virgil Showlion said:

I have to admit: your "monster vote" might actually exist.

Latest polls before the Brexit had "remain" leading by 8 points, well outside the margin of error for the actual result.

 If Nate Silver and company were using the voter data we have from this election cycle the exact same way they are using voter party id data dating back to 2011, they would see it. Indeed, I believe they do see it- but I think they doubt it. I think they're set in their ways, and they cannot admit that something different will happen in this election than in previous elections.

further evidence that you have no idea what Nate Silver does.

this will be fun to watch.

edit: the last poll i saw on BREXIT showed it tied at 44%. 

[weltschmerz]

Jun 24, 2016 11:31:52 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

"There simply are more of us than them and there’s only so much the media can continue to do to try and hide that reality. In addition we are tuned in to the schemes and techniques used to manufacture the Potemkin village they seek to build around us..."

theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/06/24/the-peasants-are-revolting-disconnected-political-institutions-meet-their-monster-voters/

Why on earth would I take the word of a Limbaugh-worshipping poster who has a picture of that incoherent moron, Bible Spice, as his avatar?
Seriously, dude?

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Jun 24, 2016 22:15:40 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

Jun 24, 2016 11:31:52 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

"There simply are more of us than them and there’s only so much the media can continue to do to try and hide that reality. In addition we are tuned in to the schemes and techniques used to manufacture the Potemkin village they seek to build around us..."

theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/06/24/the-peasants-are-revolting-disconnected-political-institutions-meet-their-monster-voters/

Why on earth would I take the word of a Limbaugh-worshipping poster who has a picture of that incoherent moron, Bible Spice, as his avatar?
Seriously, dude?

Bible Spice...   That's actually kinda funny. 

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Jun 24, 2016 18:25:51 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

theconservativenuthouse is somewhat less reliable than you, Paul.

Nate Silver was wrong. The Conservative Treehouse has been correct 100% of the time so far...

There's one BIG prediction to go...

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

edit: the last poll i saw on BREXIT showed it tied at 44%.

And yet, BREXIT won by 8 points. Well outside the margin of error.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

As I said- I called Romney because of a gut feeling I had that the Monster Vote might be in play. It wasn't. This year, the data are there to back it up: The Monster Vote is engaged.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Political analyst Peter Kellner, a former president of YouGov, predicted Remain would win by 8.5 per cent on Thursday.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/24/britain-leaves-the-eu-how-the-polls-got-it-wrong-again/

Off by 16.5%

Populus had also previously put Remain ahead by 10 points at 55%, against 45% for leaving the EU.



The online survey was carried out from a sample of 4,700 people from Tuesday to midnight on Wednesday.



Another poll, by Ipsos Mori, for the Evening Standard gave remain a four-point lead at 52%, against 48%.

Off by 18%, and 12%.

The reason? 

"Unexpectedly high turnout in leave areas"

I am predicting "unexpectedly high turnout" in November in key areas.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Jun 25, 2016 6:35:39 GMT -5 Ratchets said:

Jun 24, 2016 22:15:40 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

Why on earth would I take the word of a Limbaugh-worshipping poster who has a picture of that incoherent moron, Bible Spice, as his avatar?
Seriously, dude?

Who is Bible Spice? I think it's funny by the way...just asking!

Sarah Palin.

[djAdvocate]

Jun 24, 2016 23:03:32 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Jun 24, 2016 18:25:51 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

theconservativenuthouse is somewhat less reliable than you, Paul.

Nate Silver was wrong. The Conservative Treehouse has been correct 100% of the time so far...

There's one BIG prediction to go...

the only one that matters.

so, are they predicting a 50 state sweep for Trump?  let me know!

[djAdvocate]

Jun 24, 2016 23:37:35 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Political analyst Peter Kellner, a former president of YouGov, predicted Remain would win by 8.5 per cent on Thursday.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/24/britain-leaves-the-eu-how-the-polls-got-it-wrong-again/

Off by 16.5%

Populus had also previously put Remain ahead by 10 points at 55%, against 45% for leaving the EU.



The online survey was carried out from a sample of 4,700 people from Tuesday to midnight on Wednesday.



Another poll, by Ipsos Mori, for the Evening Standard gave remain a four-point lead at 52%, against 48%.

Off by 18%, and 12%.

The reason? 

"Unexpectedly high turnout in leave areas"

I am predicting "unexpectedly high turnout" in November in key areas.

online surveys are notoriously inaccurate.  they are very rarely used by legit agencies for that reason.

[djAdvocate]

Jun 24, 2016 23:05:55 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

edit: the last poll i saw on BREXIT showed it tied at 44%.

And yet, BREXIT won by 8 points. Well outside the margin of error.

i don't recall posting the MOE.  furthermore, there was 12% undecided.

[djAdvocate]

Jun 24, 2016 12:07:52 GMT -5 Virgil Showlion said:

I have to admit: your "monster vote" might actually exist.

Latest polls before the Brexit had "remain" leading by 8 points, well outside the margin of error for the actual result.

you should know enough about the UK to understand why this happened (remember the Scottish Secession vote?  we had a long discussion about it).

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Jun 25, 2016 11:31:46 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Jun 24, 2016 12:07:52 GMT -5 Virgil Showlion said:

I have to admit: your "monster vote" might actually exist.

Latest polls before the Brexit had "remain" leading by 8 points, well outside the margin of error for the actual result.

you should know enough about the UK to understand why this happened (remember the Scottish Secession vote?  we had a long discussion about it).

No one had any reason to believe my Romney prediction. It was raw, unadulterated guesswork- it was a gut feeling.

However, if you don't see the Trump wave building I just don't really know what to say about that. The Monster Vote is engaged. They're here.

[dondub]

That's just more raw, unadulterated guesswork-a gut feeling.

[gregintenn]

Jun 24, 2016 22:15:40 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

Jun 24, 2016 11:31:52 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

"There simply are more of us than them and there’s only so much the media can continue to do to try and hide that reality. In addition we are tuned in to the schemes and techniques used to manufacture the Potemkin village they seek to build around us..."

theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/06/24/the-peasants-are-revolting-disconnected-political-institutions-meet-their-monster-voters/

Why on earth would I take the word of a Limbaugh-worshipping poster who has a picture of that incoherent moron, Bible Spice, as his avatar?
Seriously, dude?

I never knew you had a sense of humor!

 Bible Spice.....

You should let it show more often. I like it.

[Wisconsin Beth]

 

"Unexpectedly high turnout in leave areas"

I am predicting "unexpectedly high turnout" in November in key areas.

yeah, high turnout of women and minorities who are appalled by the idea of having Trump as President.

Eta Trying to fix quoting mishap.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Cold Anger – Entire Institutional Systems Will Be Dispatched Like a Feather In a Hurricane...


What is Cold Anger?

"We watched the passage of Obamacare at 1:38am on the day before Christmas Eve in 2009. We watched the Senate, then the House attempt passing Amnesty in 2014. We’ve watched the $900 billion Stimulus Bill being spent each year, every year, for seven consecutive years. Omnibus, Porkulous, QE1, QE2, Bailouts, Crony-Capitalism.

Cold Anger absorbs betrayal silently, often prudently.

We’ve waited each year, every year, for eight years, to see a federal budget, only to be given another $2 trillion Omnibus spending bill by Speaker Ryan. We’ve watched the ridiculing of cops, the riots, and the lack of support for laws, or their enforcement. We’ve been absorbing.

Cold Anger is not hatred, it is far more purposeful.

Cold Anger takes notice of the liars, even from a great distance – seemingly invisible to the mob. Cold Anger will still hold open the door for the riot goer. Mannerly. We’ve watched our borders being intentionally unsecured. We’ve watched Islamic Terrorists slaughter Americans as our politicians proclaim their uncertainty of motive.

Cold Anger when evidenced is more severe because it is more strategic. Eric Cantor, the Brexit and Donald Trump might aide your understanding.

Cold Anger does not gloat; it absorbs consistent vilification and ridicule as fuel. This sensibility does not want to exist, it is forced to exist in otherwise unwilling hosts – who also refuse to be destabilized by it.

Transgender bathrooms appear seemingly more important than border security. Employment and standard of living in Vietnam and Southeast Asia appears more important to Washington DC, than the financial security of Youngstown Ohio. We didn’t create that impression, we are simply responding to the reality afore us.

Deliberate intent and prudence will insure avoiding failure. The course, is thoughtful vigilance; a strategy devoid of emotion.

Foolishness and betrayal of our nation have served to reveal dangers within our present condition. Misplaced corrective action, regardless of intent, is neither safe nor wise.

Cold Anger is not driven to act in spite of itself; it drives a reckoning."

read on....

[Tennesseer]

It will be Warm Delight if Trump and his kind lose.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Jun 26, 2016 5:57:01 GMT -5 Wisconsin Beth said:

 

"Unexpectedly high turnout in leave areas"

I am predicting "unexpectedly high turnout" in November in key areas.

yeah, high turnout of women and minorities who are appalled by the idea of having Trump as President.

Eta Trying to fix quoting mishap.

Let me splain something to you:

This is not just another election. The number of Democrats who voted in Super Tuesday states this cycle was down 32 percent this year compared to 2008, according to a Daily Caller analysis of primary and caucus results. Meanwhile, GOP turnout was up a monstrous 61 percent in Super Tuesday states compared to 2008 and up 73 percent compared to 2012. Some on the left are rightly panicked while the mainstream Democrat house-organ pollsters and talking heads can barely keep Hillary at 5% while firing continuously at Trump are floating along like they've got this. They don't. The Trump Tsunami is coming.-- This, btw is a story from the Daily Caller quoted by the Daily Kos-- who stated "This is bordering on a crisis for the Democrats." 

Brexit should not have been a shock...  
It was a huge wave of support building and nobody saw it coming.
www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2016/06/27/brexit_shouldn_t_have_been_a_shock

David Brooks has a light bulb...



BROOKS: I'm as pro-immigration as the day is long, but we've asked a lot of people who are suffering in this economy to accept extremely radically high immigration levels, and we've probably over-flooded the system. And, so, while it's easy, and I do condemn the vote to get out, a little humility is in order on the part of the establishment, frankly, that we've flooded the system with more than it can handle, and, secondly, we've not provided a good nationalism -- a good patriotism that is cosmopolitan, that is outward-spanning and that is confident and therefore a bad form of parochial inward-looking Trump nationalism has had free rein.
www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2016/06/27/david_brooks_has_a_thought

[weltschmerz]

Cold Anger?

Hillary keeps widening her lead over the beleaguered, toxic, orange Bag O Crap.

Looks like the Cold Anger is nothing more than lukewarm irritation.

[billisonboard]

Jun 27, 2016 17:00:00 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

Cold Anger?

Hillary keeps widening her lead over the beleaguered, toxic, orange Bag O Crap.

Looks like the Cold Anger is nothing more than lukewarm irritation.

The polling models they are using are not capturing the Monster Vote according to Paul. Just thought I would beat him to saying it.

[Tennesseer]

Trump Tsunami voters don't own phones.

[Deleted]

Hell, Reagan would be hard pressed to be a Republican.

[Value Buy]

Jun 27, 2016 16:06:43 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

It will be Warm Delight if Trump and his kind lose.

You used the word "if" rather than "when"

Glad to see you are coming around to the prospect of aTrump victory.

[Tennesseer]

Jun 28, 2016 8:15:39 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Jun 27, 2016 16:06:43 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

It will be Warm Delight if Trump and his kind lose.

You used the word "if" rather than "when"

Glad to see you are coming around to the prospect of aTrump victory.

There is no limit to the ignorance, stupidity, racism and bigotry of many Trump supporters.

Look at those who voted for Brexit: if many of those voters had been well informed and their eyes wide open this past Thursday, then G.B. would still be part of the E.U.