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Post by Value Buy on Apr 17, 2016 22:06:36 GMT -5
Hollywood activists throw a fund raiser for Hillary Clinton and charge upwards of 253,000 a couple to be there, raising 15 million for her campaign. George Clooney admits it is an obscene amount of money. Gene Simmons and two old members of KISS don costumes and make up, to perform with other artists to raise money for the annual Race to erase MS fundraising. They raised $250,000 Ouch. Priorities people, priorities...............
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2016 22:11:39 GMT -5
And yet what avenues of MS research close if Cruz gets control of the courts...
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Post by gregintenn on Apr 18, 2016 15:13:22 GMT -5
And yet what avenues of MS research close if Cruz gets control of the courts... You think he'll ban fund raisers?
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Post by ken a.k.a OMK on Apr 18, 2016 15:17:48 GMT -5
The rich can do anything they want with their money. So can you and I.
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Post by mroped on Apr 18, 2016 16:54:22 GMT -5
And yet what avenues of MS research close if Cruz gets control of the courts... You think he'll ban fund raisers? I don't believe he will ban fundraisers but he will cut government funding for the research since it doesn't fit in the Bible!
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Post by Opti on Apr 18, 2016 17:02:00 GMT -5
Priorities or comparing things that are totally different?
The event raised more than $250,000 toward finding a cure for the nervous system disorder.
Watch a video of the band performing "Cold Gin" and "Rock and Roll All Nite" at Friday night's show below. www.billboard.com/articles/columns/rock/7334116/kiss-without-paul-stanley-shoulder-surgery-benefit-show (video of the performance available on link)
FWIW- The National Multiple Sclerosis Society has committed another $25.3 million to support an expected 60 new MS research projects and training awards. This financial commitment is the latest in the Society’s relentless research effort to expand investments and worldwide collaboration to accelerate research, investing a projected $54 million in 2016 alone to support over 380 new and ongoing studies around the world.
www.nationalmssociety.org/NationalMSSociety/media/MSNationalFiles/Research/New-Research-Spring-2016.pdf
Or possibly hanging out with Hillary and George Clooney at Clooney's house. www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2016/apr/17/george-clooney/george-clooney-decries-big-money-politics-says-mos/ Clooney said, "The overwhelming amount of the money that we're raising, is not going to Hillary to run for president. ... It's going to the congressmen and senators to try to take back Congress."
In cases like this, where large amounts are collected from individual donors and tickets cost over $30,000, Clinton's direct share is going to be small, as Clooney said.
But it should be noted that this isn't typical, and for most people donating to her Victory Fund, the Clinton campaign is going to get the lion's share of the money.
Because Clooney's statement is accurate but needs clarification or additional information, we rate it Mostly True.
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Post by gregintenn on Apr 18, 2016 17:03:04 GMT -5
You think he'll ban fund raisers? I don't believe he will ban fundraisers but he will cut government funding for the research since it doesn't fit in the Bible! What part of our constitution allows for government medical research? What good has come from government medical research? This is one of a myriad of things that should be handled by the private sector, just as it was being done in the stated article.
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Post by mroped on Apr 18, 2016 17:14:06 GMT -5
It is handled by the private sector Greg but the funding comes from the government in many cases. The same goes for anything else that does research. Who do you think paid the R& for those fight jets that cost a piece more than some countries GDP? Did you know that the DOD spent $125 billion on the research alone?
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Post by Artemis Windsong on Apr 18, 2016 19:04:52 GMT -5
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Post by Value Buy on Apr 19, 2016 9:27:16 GMT -5
Priorities or comparing things that are totally different?
The event raised more than $250,000 toward finding a cure for the nervous system disorder.
Watch a video of the band performing "Cold Gin" and "Rock and Roll All Nite" at Friday night's show below. www.billboard.com/articles/columns/rock/7334116/kiss-without-paul-stanley-shoulder-surgery-benefit-show (video of the performance available on link)
FWIW- The National Multiple Sclerosis Society has committed another $25.3 million to support an expected 60 new MS research projects and training awards. This financial commitment is the latest in the Society’s relentless research effort to expand investments and worldwide collaboration to accelerate research, investing a projected $54 million in 2016 alone to support over 380 new and ongoing studies around the world.
www.nationalmssociety.org/NationalMSSociety/media/MSNationalFiles/Research/New-Research-Spring-2016.pdf
Or possibly hanging out with Hillary and George Clooney at Clooney's house. www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2016/apr/17/george-clooney/george-clooney-decries-big-money-politics-says-mos/ Clooney said, "The overwhelming amount of the money that we're raising, is not going to Hillary to run for president. ... It's going to the congressmen and senators to try to take back Congress."
In cases like this, where large amounts are collected from individual donors and tickets cost over $30,000, Clinton's direct share is going to be small, as Clooney said.
But it should be noted that this isn't typical, and for most people donating to her Victory Fund, the Clinton campaign is going to get the lion's share of the money.
Because Clooney's statement is accurate but needs clarification or additional information, we rate it Mostly True.
From the article. Since most of the donors have already donated the $2,700 to her campaign, it limits what she gets, but it still comes her way.....The Clinton campaign gets the lion's share of the money collected by the Victory Fund, said Clinton spokesman Josh Schwerin, because most of the donors give much smaller amounts, and everything up to $2,700 per person is earmarked to go to Hillary for America first. It's only when a donor exceeds that limit does the excess spill over to benefit the national and state Democratic committees. In the case of the California fundraisers, Schwerin said, "Because the vast majority of guests at these events had already contributed $2,700 to Hillary for America, only about 1 percent of the proceeds for these events ended up being allocated to HFA. The rest go to the DNC and 32 state parties across the country to help elect Democrats up and down the ballot, including local and statewide candidates." The campaign also told us that the individual committees that make up the fund each pay a share of the expenses prior to money being transferred out. The costs are allocated at the same ratio as the money that comes in for each entity. To put this in perspective, the Clinton campaign isn't required to set things up this way. Bernie Sanders, who has been out-collecting Clinton in fundraising using small donations, has come under fire from some Democrats for not doing enough to help raise money for the party. Sanders became a Democrat to run for president. Our ruling Clooney said, "The overwhelming amount of the money that we're raising, is not going to Hillary to run for president. ... It's going to the congressmen and senators to try to take back Congress." In cases like this, where large amounts are collected from individual donors and tickets cost over $30,000, Clinton's direct share is going to be small, as Clooney said. But it should be noted that this isn't typical, and for most people donating to her Victory Fund, the Clinton campaign is going to get the lion's share of the money. Because Clooney's statement is accurate but needs clarification or additional information, we rate it Mostly True. Share The Facts
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Post by Value Buy on Apr 19, 2016 9:29:52 GMT -5
Like I stated in the original post, priorities, people, priorities. Bernie goes to Rome Italy to see the Pope and promote world problem(s) solving. Hillary goes to Hollywood to raise money she will never have to even spend because she already has the amount needed.
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Post by Tennesseer on Apr 19, 2016 9:40:02 GMT -5
Like I stated in the original post, priorities, people, priorities. Bernie goes to Rome Italy to see the Pope and promote world problem(s) solving. Hillary goes to Hollywood to raise money she will never have to even spend because she already has the amount needed. Bernie Sanders' awkward Vatican junket
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Post by Value Buy on Apr 19, 2016 9:49:31 GMT -5
I think we all know Bernie is a little awkward. I am not his fan. I would never vote for him as President. Do you feel his moment in Rome is not a better move morally than Hillary going to Hollywood to raise money she does not need? I am keeping religion out of the question. I am not Catholic or of the Jewish faith, and just want an agnostic answer Matter of fact, national cable news kept asking the question, why was he going there with the political race in New York going on at the same time. Some things are just more important in the grand scheme of things than politics. Some politicians get it, some do not.
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Post by Tennesseer on Apr 19, 2016 10:37:36 GMT -5
From the same link I provided"
"Set aside the weirdness of Sanders using his campaign funds to charter a 200-seat Boeing 767-300 to fly 8,500 miles to Rome with his family and a small Secret Service detail so he could briefly talk about income inequality and climate change..."
So he charters a 767-300 for his small family and small Secret Service detail to speak about climate change. A 767-300, depending upon the number of classes of service configured into the aircraft (1 to 3 types of service depending upon the airline) can hold anywhere from 218 to 328 passengers. Yet Sanders chartered it for his small group and no one else on board but two pilots and a small cabin crew. Think of the additional gases emitted by the almost empty aircraft.
Why not fly commercial in a fully loaded aircraft instead of an almost empty charter? Two jets emmitting fuel fumes into the atmosphere instead of one aircraft and potentially adding to climate change while Sanders flies to Rome for a climate change meeting.
No moral issue here to discuss. It's politics on both sides.
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Post by Tennesseer on Apr 19, 2016 10:40:17 GMT -5
I think we all know Bernie is a little awkward. I am not his fan. I would never vote for him as President. Do you feel his moment in Rome is not a better move morally than Hillary going to Hollywood to raise money she does not need? I am keeping religion out of the question. I am not Catholic or of the Jewish faith, and just want an agnostic answer Matter of fact, national cable news kept asking the question, why was he going there with the political race in New York going on at the same time. Some things are just more important in the grand scheme of things than politics. Some politicians get it, some do not. Why you felt the need to even mention my religious beliefs, I simply don't know because it has nothing to do with Clinton or Sanders.
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Post by Opti on Apr 19, 2016 11:29:47 GMT -5
Like I stated in the original post, priorities, people, priorities. Bernie goes to Rome Italy to see the Pope and promote world problem(s) solving. Hillary goes to Hollywood to raise money she will never have to even spend because she already has the amount needed. Both Hillary and Bernie have done some serious fund raising. Bernie gets mostly from small donors so almost nothing he has done has helped the Democratic party as a whole. I don't know why Hillary chose to do what she did, but using your example of the $250,000 donation, only $30,000 max could go to Hillary's campaign if the couple never donated. $15 million was raised. Whether Hillary got $7 million and the democrats got $8 million, we won't know until later.
Speaking of priorities, why nothing on the guy who is abusing folks again for his own gain?
nypost.com/2016/04/18/donald-trumps-big-abusive-mouth-might-cost-him-4m/
The billionaire businessman’s tweets, calling strategist Cheri Jacobus “a real dummy” and a “major loser,” incited a “virtual mob against her,” with Trump’s Twitter followers calling the political operative “a whore” and posting graphic photo illustrations of her naked and being raped from behind, the suit says.
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Post by Opti on Apr 19, 2016 11:46:17 GMT -5
Priorities or comparing things that are totally different?
The event raised more than $250,000 toward finding a cure for the nervous system disorder.
Watch a video of the band performing "Cold Gin" and "Rock and Roll All Nite" at Friday night's show below. www.billboard.com/articles/columns/rock/7334116/kiss-without-paul-stanley-shoulder-surgery-benefit-show (video of the performance available on link)
FWIW- The National Multiple Sclerosis Society has committed another $25.3 million to support an expected 60 new MS research projects and training awards. This financial commitment is the latest in the Society’s relentless research effort to expand investments and worldwide collaboration to accelerate research, investing a projected $54 million in 2016 alone to support over 380 new and ongoing studies around the world.
www.nationalmssociety.org/NationalMSSociety/media/MSNationalFiles/Research/New-Research-Spring-2016.pdf
Or possibly hanging out with Hillary and George Clooney at Clooney's house. www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2016/apr/17/george-clooney/george-clooney-decries-big-money-politics-says-mos/ Clooney said, "The overwhelming amount of the money that we're raising, is not going to Hillary to run for president. ... It's going to the congressmen and senators to try to take back Congress."
In cases like this, where large amounts are collected from individual donors and tickets cost over $30,000, Clinton's direct share is going to be small, as Clooney said.
But it should be noted that this isn't typical, and for most people donating to her Victory Fund, the Clinton campaign is going to get the lion's share of the money.
Because Clooney's statement is accurate but needs clarification or additional information, we rate it Mostly True.
From the article. Since most of the donors have already donated the $2,700 to her campaign, it limits what she gets, but it still comes her way.....The Clinton campaign gets the lion's share of the money collected by the Victory Fund, said Clinton spokesman Josh Schwerin, because most of the donors give much smaller amounts, and everything up to $2,700 per person is earmarked to go to Hillary for America first. It's only when a donor exceeds that limit does the excess spill over to benefit the national and state Democratic committees. In the case of the California fundraisers, Schwerin said, "Because the vast majority of guests at these events had already contributed $2,700 to Hillary for America, only about 1 percent of the proceeds for these events ended up being allocated to HFA. The rest go to the DNC and 32 state parties across the country to help elect Democrats up and down the ballot, including local and statewide candidates."
The campaign also told us that the individual committees that make up the fund each pay a share of the expenses prior to money being transferred out. The costs are allocated at the same ratio as the money that comes in for each entity. To put this in perspective, the Clinton campaign isn't required to set things up this way. Bernie Sanders, who has been out-collecting Clinton in fundraising using small donations, has come under fire from some Democrats for not doing enough to help raise money for the party. Sanders became a Democrat to run for president. Our ruling Clooney said, "The overwhelming amount of the money that we're raising, is not going to Hillary to run for president. ... It's going to the congressmen and senators to try to take back Congress." In cases like this, where large amounts are collected from individual donors and tickets cost over $30,000, Clinton's direct share is going to be small, as Clooney said. But it should be noted that this isn't typical, and for most people donating to her Victory Fund, the Clinton campaign is going to get the lion's share of the money. Because Clooney's statement is accurate but needs clarification or additional information, we rate it Mostly True. Share The Facts So potentially Hillary might get as little as $150,000 from this fund raiser. One thing is certain though, she won't get $15 Million.
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Post by Value Buy on Apr 19, 2016 12:25:54 GMT -5
I think we all know Bernie is a little awkward. I am not his fan. I would never vote for him as President. Do you feel his moment in Rome is not a better move morally than Hillary going to Hollywood to raise money she does not need? I am keeping religion out of the question. I am not Catholic or of the Jewish faith, and just want an agnostic answer Matter of fact, national cable news kept asking the question, why was he going there with the political race in New York going on at the same time. Some things are just more important in the grand scheme of things than politics. Some politicians get it, some do not. Why you felt the need to even mention my religious beliefs, I simply don't know because it has nothing to do with Clinton or Sanders. fyi, I was mentioning Catholic, only because he was at the Vatican. I mentioned Jewish faith, only because Sanders is of the Jewish faith, although it is my understanding, not a strong practicing one. I said agnostic answer, because I did not want to go into a religious discussion, and I wanted an answer that is not tainted from a religious perspective. In all honesty, Sanders, after the last debate saying Israel was overly responding to Hamas, he could have done himself a large favor by going to Israel to repair fences with the NYC Jewish voters, but that would have been as political as Hillary going to Hollywood for a fund raiser. I did not quote you specifically because I was responding to the entire board rather than you on the premise of the thread. If you felt I was going after your religion in a personal manner, I apoligize. That was not the intent, and I know it does not matter.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2016 13:48:07 GMT -5
Hollywood activists throw a fund raiser for Hillary Clinton and charge upwards of 253,000 a couple to be there, raising 15 million for her campaign. George Clooney admits it is an obscene amount of money. Gene Simmons and two old members of KISS don costumes and make up, to perform with other artists to raise money for the annual Race to erase MS fundraising. They raised $250,000 Ouch. Priorities people, priorities............... But Hilary's worth it !
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Post by Value Buy on Apr 19, 2016 14:45:47 GMT -5
And yet what avenues of MS research close if Cruz gets control of the courts... Regardless of mass media hysteria, Cruz will not be President let alone win the Republican nomination. He will not be Trump's VP either. Donald would have to watch his back for the dagger from Cruz, ala Caesar
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Post by Tennesseer on Apr 19, 2016 16:28:19 GMT -5
And yet what avenues of MS research close if Cruz gets control of the courts... Regardless of mass media hysteria, Cruz will not be President let alone win the Republican nomination. He will not be Trump's VP either. Donald would have to watch his back for the dagger from Cruz, ala Caesar The Ides of March have come and gone. Trump still lives.
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Post by tallguy on Apr 19, 2016 20:13:20 GMT -5
Regardless of mass media hysteria, Cruz will not be President let alone win the Republican nomination. He will not be Trump's VP either. Donald would have to watch his back for the dagger from Cruz, ala Caesar The Ides of March have come and gone. Trump still lives. But next year, when his treachery would bear fruit....
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Post by jkapp on Apr 19, 2016 21:01:20 GMT -5
Like I stated in the original post, priorities, people, priorities. Bernie goes to Rome Italy to see the Pope and promote world problem(s) solving. Hillary goes to Hollywood to raise money she will never have to even spend because she already has the amount needed. Bernie Sanders' awkward Vatican junketAnd Bernie missed a golden opportunity to ask the Pope: Isn't it hypocritical for you to speak out against America building a wall on their southern border when you live in Vatican City - a city with a large WALL around it?
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Post by Tennesseer on Apr 19, 2016 21:37:38 GMT -5
And Bernie missed a golden opportunity to ask the Pope: Isn't it hypocritical for you to speak out against America building a wall on their southern border when you live in Vatican City - a city with a large WALL around it? Well Bernie would be wrong about a wall around Vatican City. Having been to Rome and the Vatican myself, the entrance to Vatican City is not walled in. Additionally, the walls were there before the pope, Bernie, you or I were born. The walls were there before George Wasington was born and up for 600 years before Columbus discovered America. Lothar I was the Holy Roman Emperor at the time when the walls were being built at what is now called Vatican City. And while it is true the walls were originally ordered built by Pope Leo IV (b 790 - d 855) to stop invading barbarians, the front entrance has been open for many, many, years now. The open entrance is by the top of the picture by the cross bridge. Beautiful architecture, including its walls, if you have never been to Rome and Vatican City. Trump's wall would be an aesthetic nightmare and most likely not work too.
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Post by jkapp on Apr 20, 2016 8:37:03 GMT -5
And Bernie missed a golden opportunity to ask the Pope: Isn't it hypocritical for you to speak out against America building a wall on their southern border when you live in Vatican City - a city with a large WALL around it? Well Bernie would be wrong about a wall around Vatican City. Having been to Rome and the Vatican myself, the entrance to Vatican City is not walled in. Additionally, the walls were there before the pope, Bernie, you or I were born. The walls were there before George Wasington was born and up for 600 years before Columbus discovered America. Lothar I was the Holy Roman Emperor at the time when the walls were being built at what is now called Vatican City. And while it is true the walls were originally ordered built by Pope Leo IV (b 790 - d 855) to stop invading barbarians, the front entrance has been open for many, many, years now. The open entrance is by the top of the picture by the cross bridge. Beautiful architecture, including its walls, if you have never been to Rome and Vatican City. Trump's wall would be an aesthetic nightmare and most likely not work too. There would be openings in the border wall as well, with armed security checkpoints, just like Vatican City
But, yes, the border wall would be big and ugly - but that matches the asthetics of the surrounding architecture and landscape
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Post by Tennesseer on Apr 20, 2016 8:44:58 GMT -5
Well Bernie would be wrong about a wall around Vatican City. Having been to Rome and the Vatican myself, the entrance to Vatican City is not walled in. Additionally, the walls were there before the pope, Bernie, you or I were born. The walls were there before George Wasington was born and up for 600 years before Columbus discovered America. Lothar I was the Holy Roman Emperor at the time when the walls were being built at what is now called Vatican City. And while it is true the walls were originally ordered built by Pope Leo IV (b 790 - d 855) to stop invading barbarians, the front entrance has been open for many, many, years now. The open entrance is by the top of the picture by the cross bridge. Beautiful architecture, including its walls, if you have never been to Rome and Vatican City. Trump's wall would be an aesthetic nightmare and most likely not work too. There would be openings in the border wall as well, with armed security checkpoints, just like Vatican City
But, yes, the border wall would be big and ugly - but that matches the asthetics of the surrounding architecture and landscape
But no passports, visas, or green cards are required to enter Vatican City. Even the Vatican walls are scaleable as would be a border wall with Mexico.
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Post by Opti on Apr 20, 2016 12:12:02 GMT -5
And Bernie missed a golden opportunity to ask the Pope: Isn't it hypocritical for you to speak out against America building a wall on their southern border when you live in Vatican City - a city with a large WALL around it? Weird that you confused Bernie with Trump.
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What are Bernie’s views on securing the border?
Bernie sees the importance of securing the border, but is opposed to building a fence to do so, and has voted repeatedly against legislation that would build such a barrier.
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