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Post by raeoflyte on Jan 10, 2020 16:02:50 GMT -5
Dsis is job hunting. She has a very ethnic sounding first name and I know her and I have discussed that issue with resumes before, but I was thinking of asking her if she's considered changing her resume to "X. Last name" Or "Ms. X. Last Name". Which would be a better format? She certainly uses her first name, and I wouldn't want to make it even weirder, but she hasn't had a lot of bites outside of her network and she's trying to branch out some.
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Post by shanendoah on Jan 10, 2020 16:13:53 GMT -5
raeoflyte - I might recommend first and middle initial last name, so A. Y. Jones on the resume.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2020 16:57:20 GMT -5
I often think that's a bad move. If a family wants a SAHP that's one thing but to quit your job because day care is too expensive can be a very unwise decision in the long run. By the time she's ready to go back she'll have been out of the job market for a number of years and will have missed out on pay raises, promotions, 401K contributions, etc. It may well be better to just suck it up for a few years until the child is in school. Admittedly, I'm probably projecting my own situation and think it would have been disastrous for me. I think that depends...and assumes you work in the private sector...and assumes wherever you work that you get regular raises and promotions. And both are meaningful.
In my experience, I think these are big assumptions. It's also not necessarily the worker's fault if they aren't getting raises or promotions...
When I came back they bumped me up to whatever the middle of the pay scale was for my position. I didn't miss anything in the raises department. I did miss out on 3 years of 401K match and they reset my start date for vacation...which did suck since I'd been here 11 years, but I was just a lowly production worker at the time. People that left and came back in higher up positions were able to make more demands with stuff like that. I might have been able to as well, but I came back thinking it was only going to be temporary until I finished my degree in less than a year and I didn't care.
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Post by Lizard Queen on Jan 11, 2020 19:07:15 GMT -5
I came home from work yesterday to a message on my machine about scheduling a phone interview. So yay for me, I guess. This is at least the 3rd or 4th time applying to this place, and finally this position seemed to fit my past experience really well, and it carries the job title I've been trying to get! The job duties are a mixed bag, though, and the commute still sucks.
At current place, things are looking to go in a better direction for me as far as job duties are concerned, but I'm getting slightly different stories from different bosses, which I don't trust. They're not being forthcoming here. It might not go in a bad way for me, but I don't like that kind of culture.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jan 12, 2020 19:34:32 GMT -5
Very very cautiously hopeful. The ink is dry on the meat company deal. He wants DH to be the sales force and has said DH is his only choice.
Two weeks allegedly. DH asked if he could get $17-18/he would I approve and I said yes. That is what he was making pre buy out. I can work with that.
In the meantime he's got two phone screens and more applications out. He agreed to keep going as is until we have a written signed job offer in hand.
Got a couple leads to look into from parents of Gwen's friend too.
He wouldn't pay Nebraska taxes anymore which would mean more in his paycheck. He also gets to not work for a mega corporation which he wants.
So fingers, toes, legs, arms and eyes crossed this works out in our favor.
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Post by Anne_in_VA on Jan 13, 2020 8:56:18 GMT -5
Very very cautiously hopeful. The ink is dry on the meat company deal. He wants DH to be the sales force and has said DH is his only choice. Two weeks allegedly. DH asked if he could get $17-18/he would I approve and I said yes. That is what he was making pre buy out. I can work with that. In the meantime he's got two phone screens and more applications out. He agreed to keep going as is until we have a written signed job offer in hand. Got a couple leads to look into from parents of Gwen's friend too. He wouldn't pay Nebraska taxes anymore which would mean more in his paycheck. He also gets to not work for a mega corporation which he wants. So fingers, toes, legs, arms and eyes crossed this works out in our favor. Good luck!
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Post by gs11rmb on Jan 13, 2020 9:16:20 GMT -5
Dsis is job hunting. She has a very ethnic sounding first name and I know her and I have discussed that issue with resumes before, but I was thinking of asking her if she's considered changing her resume to "X. Last name" Or "Ms. X. Last Name". Which would be a better format? She certainly uses her first name, and I wouldn't want to make it even weirder, but she hasn't had a lot of bites outside of her network and she's trying to branch out some. First, that's very sad that she even has to consider such a thing but I understand it's a reality. Second, what's her middle name and would that work? I have a colleague who is an African-American man with a first name that does sound "black". His middle name sounds rather white-preppy. Even though he uses his first name in general, his resume/LinkedIn profile has him listed as J. Middle Name.
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Post by raeoflyte on Jan 13, 2020 10:34:00 GMT -5
Dsis is job hunting. She has a very ethnic sounding first name and I know her and I have discussed that issue with resumes before, but I was thinking of asking her if she's considered changing her resume to "X. Last name" Or "Ms. X. Last Name". Which would be a better format? She certainly uses her first name, and I wouldn't want to make it even weirder, but she hasn't had a lot of bites outside of her network and she's trying to branch out some. First, that's very sad that she even has to consider such a thing but I understand it's a reality. Second, what's her middle name and would that work? I have a colleague who is an African-American man with a first name that does sound "black". His middle name sounds rather white-preppy. Even though he uses his first name in general, his resume/LinkedIn profile has him listed as J. Middle Name. Her middle name is unusual too. They combined her grandmothers and aunts names . They're really pretty and simple/easy, but definitely not names people have heard before. I've had coworkers ask me if she's black based on her name (and seriously who does that?!? but obviously it happens....), and she was put on some hunting/ammo magazine lists in highschool it looked like just through a slight misspelling of her name. I need to give her a call today and will bring it up. I reviewed her resume when she first started looking and it never occurred to me, but I think it would be worth a shot. I really hate that this is a thing.
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Post by oped on Jan 13, 2020 10:51:17 GMT -5
When husband started his business we always knew we'd DBA and not use his name for this reason.
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Post by Lizard Queen on Jan 13, 2020 13:18:22 GMT -5
That is an unfortunate reality. I've thought about using just my first initial just so my very common name wouldn't shout female. I bet my resume would have impressed more if they thought I could be a male. In fact, maybe that should be a trend for companies--using only the first initial to limit bias based upon the first name.
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Post by buystoys on Jan 13, 2020 14:06:33 GMT -5
I am fortunate that my "business" name (a shortened version of my full first name) is androgynous. People frequently expected to meet a man when they first met me. I do believe it opened some doors for me.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jan 13, 2020 14:53:07 GMT -5
DH has an in person interview this week with one of the other companies.
Supposedly two weeks is when we will have an offer for that in hand from DH's client. We'll see how this plays out.
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Post by swamp on Jan 13, 2020 14:57:02 GMT -5
tell him not to fuck it up or i will kill him. i have enough pent up rage right now to do it.
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Post by shanendoah on Jan 13, 2020 15:09:06 GMT -5
I did not get the position I interviewed for last week. It was an interesting opportunity and a great job title, but I am actually a little relieved I'm not moving on with that one. So there we are.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jan 13, 2020 15:22:33 GMT -5
tell him not to fuck it up or i will kill him. i have enough pent up rage right now to do it. It's already been discussed. I know he wants the sales one and that will supposedly be on the table in two weeks. I figure if he gets an offer from this place today (we're on round 1 interviews) that if it comes thru faster he can leverage that to get something in writing for the sales position sooner. If it ain't in writing than IMO he's well within reason to accept a different offer.
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Post by flamingo on Jan 13, 2020 16:25:17 GMT -5
Well surprise surprise! I got an email today that I've been selected to move forward to the first round of "in person" interviews with the institution I had a phone interview with last week. I seriously cannot believe it. I still don't know if I want to live in the city this job is in, but the salary for the position would make it worth that hassle.
So, now I'm going to have to take this Friday off work to do a most of the day Skype interview. They are allowing me to do the "in person" first round via skype since I don't live locally. Which will be weird and will suck for DH who will have to take himself out of the house all day. But whatever. I'm excited (and still in disbelief)!
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Post by shanendoah on Jan 14, 2020 12:57:47 GMT -5
And heard from the place where the CEO/Founder looked at my LinkedIn profile that they were not moving forward with my application. A little more bummed by that one, but at least they let me know. And it's really amazing the emotional difference between this job hunt and the last.
I sent out emails this morning asking 7 of my 18 candidates to come in for in-person interviews and letting the other 11 know they would not be moving forward.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jan 14, 2020 13:31:37 GMT -5
Got another interview for next Monday This one pays $19.50/hr.
Let's hope one of these three leads pans out. We could have it all in two weeks or be back where we are now but even more depressed.
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Jan 17, 2020 8:12:36 GMT -5
oh my gosh! I got contacted for a phone screen!! I was worried I waited too long to reply - as it's friday and the email was monday - but just checked the time and email was sent after 5pm on Monday - counts as Tuesday! And I replied before 8am on Friday - counts as Thrusday, right?? I had so given up on this job, I had stopped checking email, I get like 30+ emails daily so I have to search for what I want if I skip a few days and I just did an obligatory search this am just cuz it was a habit to search my email on job apps, then RI clients periodically. This is the one that would involve moving to kansas ..... very weird idea for me....that I had totally decided against - but of course, it's nice to know that I am not on the do not call list for similar director-level positions!! Well - of course I'm going to pursue! I mean - interview practice, and maybe an all-expense paid trip to kansas - amiright ? There is of course a level of a job fit and compensation package that I would have to accept - so it is scary for me to pursue. My cats are a real impediment to this upheaval of moving. The little vagabonds are bonding with me and each other and their little lives are so content right now. I can't imagine moving them after they are settling in after their traumatic early lives. Oh my gosh!!!! I can't believe it!
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Post by andi9899 on Jan 17, 2020 8:34:45 GMT -5
If you come this way, be sure to let us know! We could have dinner or something.
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Jan 17, 2020 9:18:50 GMT -5
definitely!
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jan 17, 2020 11:29:10 GMT -5
DH is on job interview number one. Number two is Momday. Then we should know by the end of this week if offer three will materialize.
They all pay with a dollar or two the same salary so I'm fine with any of them there.
Number two offers fully paid benefits which I prefer. Offer three is in Iowa so no more two state income taxes for one of us which I like.
We'll see I guess. Still putting out applications and have 20 already submitted.
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Post by jelloshots4all on Jan 17, 2020 17:52:36 GMT -5
I hate job hunting and interviewing. Have been at it since Oct. It is exhausting, and after having 3 positions basically push me through to meeting everyone and their brother, all 3 I was told I am over qualified!?!?! Why the FU#K did I get a college degree, work my ass off for 25 years, have great career experience, only to keep being told I'm over qualified?? I understand that at my level there are fewer positions. I asked on of my recruiters to find out how many women are receiving these jobs. The holidays I took a break as it was slow (kept looking and applying everyday), but didn't stress about it which was nice.
It has picked up the last 2 weeks which is good. I was on vacation this week, but was up every morning searching, applying, taking phone calls, responding to emails. I'm not a slacker, and the vacay did help me recharge.
Good luck to everyone!!!
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Post by alabamagal on Jan 18, 2020 4:23:29 GMT -5
I hate job hunting and interviewing. Have been at it since Oct. It is exhausting, and after having 3 positions basically push me through to meeting everyone and their brother, all 3 I was told I am over qualified!?!?! Why the FU#K did I get a college degree, work my ass off for 25 years, have great career experience, only to keep being told I'm over qualified?? I understand that at my level there are fewer positions. I asked on of my recruiters to find out how many women are receiving these jobs. The holidays I took a break as it was slow (kept looking and applying everyday), but didn't stress about it which was nice. It has picked up the last 2 weeks which is good. I was on vacation this week, but was up every morning searching, applying, taking phone calls, responding to emails. I'm not a slacker, and the vacay did help me recharge. Good luck to everyone!!! Job hunting sucks. Especially when you are out of a job. “Overqualified” just means that “we found someone we could pay a lot less”. My biggest frustration was having a degree in a field (engineering) and then working in an industry and being pigeonholed in that industry in a very specific way. It is a great growing industry and I eventually found a great job after 5 months.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jan 18, 2020 9:16:22 GMT -5
I hated that my field has become so glutted.
I cost more than a new graduate. And PhDs are moving back down the ladder so they can get one of those as a tech for cheap.
So why hire me? It was soul crushing.
I am glad I landed where I am at now. Sometimes I get paranoid because I need this job in more ways than one.
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Jan 18, 2020 12:30:17 GMT -5
ok - so I spent all of yesterday morning imagining getting the new job, quitting the old one, selling the house and moving state. I thought - yes - I can do this. I want to do this...particularly the quitting part I think But then I came back to if I sell this house - then what is my real goal? what do I want to do with my life? where do I want to be? And I have no answers. But it likely isn't in kansas? So - Despite any potential perfect fit job-task wise, I'd be doing this just for money and to get away from current job. And - it isn't that I wouldn't look on taking this job as a new challenge and a new adventure, but I just don't know what my goals are. I've been nose to the grind stone for a long time and I'm not sure how up I am for continuing on in that path......or more succinctly -- for how long I can. So then I was thinking that if I sell up everything - I have 900k net worth with no debts (Thanks WIR net worthers!!). If I was going to move to a place like kansas I could do it without getting another job and totally pull a shasta! I have my RI clients - so I would have a small income that I could work with - while keeping me plugged into my profession! I still have a lot of research and data files to process and try for publications. Would be pretty sad to work all that time for the phd and then just sell the house and retire less than 2 year after!!! I could really dig into my research without 10-11 hour commute and work day. From that perspective - the only thing stopping me from going nomad and having a camper van and travelling around the country for a few years and trying to live off RI income alone is my cats. So - basically - if I sell the house and give up my current life in this area - then there isn't a real need for that job. So alternately - if I can get enough money to keep my current house and get very cheap accommodations at the new locale, maybe just a rented room.....come back home for 1 or 2 long weekends a month. But then - what is my goal there? Where are my cats? And if I am focused on keeping the house - will I keep the house forever - or for how long? and why? and then I have no answers there either! I guess while this house feels like a burden sometimes - with all the deferred maintenance and associated worries! It is the only thing keeping me together - it's something to work for, and I do love it alot! It is our home. I've been trying to calculate how many extra years I would have to work to keep this house permanently in retirement vs something smaller and farther out. And then see if I love it that much! property taxes are also an issue, rising all the time. So - as usual - I am all over the place on this!! And then there is the stick with current job, ignore the issues, step back from working more than the required hours and focus more on my research - aka try to make current gig more livable/rewarding. Ugh - I really suck at making big decisions! Would appreciate any thoughts or ideas on how to think through this!
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Post by debthaven on Jan 18, 2020 12:52:38 GMT -5
Rukh O'Rorke another option COULD be to rent out your house while you're in Kansas, rake in the money, and maybe be in a good enough position in a few years to retire earlier than you thought from the main job, move back, and just do Rukh Inc. I do realize your kids would have to move ... or else maybe leave them the house and add roommates?
Dunno, just a couple of thoughts that occurred to me.
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Jan 18, 2020 13:56:16 GMT -5
Rukh O'Rorke another option COULD be to rent out your house while you're in Kansas, rake in the money, and maybe be in a good enough position in a few years to retire earlier than you thought from the main job, move back, and just do Rukh Inc. I do realize your kids would have to move ... or else maybe leave them the house and add roommates?
Dunno, just a couple of thoughts that occurred to me. Interesting ideas..... In the sell the house scenario - I'm thinking kids would just go off and do their own thing where ever they liked. No one would want to come with me I don't think. Renting out house is an idea - I would need to take care of all that deferred maintenance however. There may be other barriers. Let me check on rents. ok - as I suspected, not a lot of house renting in chicago. There is one similar size/style house in my neighbor - very updated/rehabbed - going for 3200/month. But it looks like people could purchase the house for quite a bit less than that even with just 5% down, so not sure what they are thinking. Maybe redfin value is off cuz looks like possibly/close to gut rehab and redfin has # of bedrooms wrong. My house has 4 br and bath on 2nd - mid to small sizes, one very small. good sized room plus raw storage in attic level. Looks like this house ripped out and did 2 very large rooms and huge bathroom on second, and large bedroom and bath on attic level.
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Jan 18, 2020 14:22:08 GMT -5
Adding for the kids in the house plus roommates, that seems like just me keeping the house - with maybe some rents. Which is certainly on the table - but I think far from ideal.
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Post by oped on Jan 18, 2020 14:33:46 GMT -5
Deferred maintenance doesn't just get better with time... If you don't want to retire in Chicago, sell it now before those issues become more pronounced or costly.
How did you research rentals in your area? Most are probably managed and might not be readily available to view through quick searches.. perhaps call someone in the industry who might be able to give your more detailed information?
If you get the Kansas job you could take it for a few years and then travel.
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