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Post by shanendoah on Apr 9, 2019 10:06:36 GMT -5
Ava - I know this is frustrating, but take a couple deep breaths. There's also the possibility that the person you emailed is out sick. This second round of cold and flu is hitting pretty hard, and I know I don't always think to go in and put in an out of office message when I am sick. Give them a little slack. I also suggest going back and double checking the job posting to see if there is an end date on the posting period. Where I am, we have 3 options for end dates - a set end date, open until filled, or open until filled with priority going to people who apply by X date. On the positions with an actual end date or a priority date, applications are not even forwarded to the hiring manager until after the end date. Sometimes positions are open for 5 days. Sometimes they're open for 5 weeks. Either way, as a hiring manager, I won't see a single application until the application period has closed. But here's a question for you, if you are so willing to assign negative traits to HR at your company, do you actually want to stay employed there beyond your current role? I know you have a great relationship with your current boss, and that's great, but you don't seem to positive about anything/anyone else at the organization. Do you really want to stay?
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Post by bean29 on Apr 9, 2019 10:38:50 GMT -5
Re: my DD’s background check-they said they won’t clear her until they hear from Charlotte Russe. CR is in bankruptcy and closing their stores. DD told them that, but they still seem to expect that someone will call them back. What do you think will happen? I'm thinking the job is not worth it. Where do they plan on her working Air Force One? 🤣 Not a government job, but if she gets in, we think it will look good on her resume in the future. It is a major airline. She said they actually made her sign a non-disclosure agreement, she is not supposed to disclose she has a job offer.
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Post by alabamagal on Apr 9, 2019 15:03:39 GMT -5
I just filled out application for company I am interviewing on Friday. I had to go through my old tax files to get names for a few of the temp jobs I worked from 2007-2010. Instructions said to put in ALL jobs, but it had a space to put check whether the work was relevant to current jobs (these were not). I did not include jobs I held while in high school or college though.
I think employers should use some discretion on verifying employment. If an applicant has a good record and there are some that you can’t verify because they are out of business, shouldn’t be a big deal.
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Post by bean29 on Apr 9, 2019 15:48:58 GMT -5
Hopefully it will be ok, They said they got no credit from her credit file, but they had her birthday wrong by 8 days. I told her to report it, they filed some kind of report.
They talked to her about fraud, scared the Sh!t out of me, so I had her pull a free credit report. There is credit info, she is 22 and has one card that has been open 23 years, but she shows undesignated owner (she is on my Kohls account) I got sick of being asked to return stuff w/o the receipt. She has a few CC’s of her own. She said two addys show up that she didn’t report, one b/c the dorm has 2 different addresses, the other is an apt she only lived in 3 months and sublet to another person.
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Post by Ava on Apr 9, 2019 15:52:02 GMT -5
Ava - I know this is frustrating, but take a couple deep breaths. There's also the possibility that the person you emailed is out sick. This second round of cold and flu is hitting pretty hard, and I know I don't always think to go in and put in an out of office message when I am sick. Give them a little slack. I also suggest going back and double checking the job posting to see if there is an end date on the posting period. Where I am, we have 3 options for end dates - a set end date, open until filled, or open until filled with priority going to people who apply by X date. On the positions with an actual end date or a priority date, applications are not even forwarded to the hiring manager until after the end date. Sometimes positions are open for 5 days. Sometimes they're open for 5 weeks. Either way, as a hiring manager, I won't see a single application until the application period has closed. But here's a question for you, if you are so willing to assign negative traits to HR at your company, do you actually want to stay employed there beyond your current role? I know you have a great relationship with your current boss, and that's great, but you don't seem to positive about anything/anyone else at the organization. Do you really want to stay? We generally get an automatic email when someone is out of office. Jobs are posted until filled. There's no time frame for them. I basically don't interact with HR, although is true I have a negative view of them. I think most HR departments are not really good for the employee, not only this one. They don't exist to support or help us, but to make sure the company doesn't get sued, or is breaking the law, etc. But on my every day activities at work I am in contact with my manager and coworkers. My first manager here was great, and my current one is even better. I have a good team. Why would I be unhappy with that?
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Post by raeoflyte on Apr 9, 2019 16:00:45 GMT -5
The function of HR is not to protect employees. They aren't the highschool guidance counselor of the work world.
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Post by Ava on Apr 9, 2019 16:13:29 GMT -5
The function of HR is not to protect employees. They aren't the highschool guidance counselor of the work world. Oh, I know they are not there to protect or help me. I'm very aware of that. I don't have to like them, though. They are mostly CYA for the company. But that's the case with any HR department, not just this one. I will have the same feeling towards HR no matter where I work.
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Post by shanendoah on Apr 9, 2019 17:58:23 GMT -5
Ava - When someone is out of the office, we also get an automatic email - IF one got set up. What I am saying is that when people are out unexpectedly for only a day or two, sometimes those emails don't get set up. I have to go in and tell my email to send an out of office message. If I am calling out due to a migraine, there's a good chance I am not able to function in front of a screen well enough to set that up, so no one would get the automatic email that said I was out that day. Maybe your system has a way for someone else to go in an initiate out of office emails, but if so, that would be the first I've ever heard of that kind of system. But otherwise your answer is that, in general, you think very highly of the people who "actually do the work" at your organization. You just don't like HR, and it's not necessarily your company's HR you don't like, you simply don't have respect for HR, period. And I understand that. I spend a lot of my time frustrated by central HR. But I do want to caution/remind you that you really need to be careful that that attitude does not come through when dealing with HR, at least for job search purposes. I think of it along the same lines as never piss off the receptionist.
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Post by Ava on Apr 9, 2019 19:08:35 GMT -5
Ava - When someone is out of the office, we also get an automatic email - IF one got set up. What I am saying is that when people are out unexpectedly for only a day or two, sometimes those emails don't get set up. I have to go in and tell my email to send an out of office message. If I am calling out due to a migraine, there's a good chance I am not able to function in front of a screen well enough to set that up, so no one would get the automatic email that said I was out that day. Maybe your system has a way for someone else to go in an initiate out of office emails, but if so, that would be the first I've ever heard of that kind of system. But otherwise your answer is that, in general, you think very highly of the people who "actually do the work" at your organization. You just don't like HR, and it's not necessarily your company's HR you don't like, you simply don't have respect for HR, period. And I understand that. I spend a lot of my time frustrated by central HR. But I do want to caution/remind you that you really need to be careful that that attitude does not come through when dealing with HR, at least for job search purposes. I think of it along the same lines as never piss off the receptionist. You are absolutely right. Don't piss off the receptionist, or the waiter at a restaurant. My interactions with HR are really minimal.
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Post by Chocolate Lover on Apr 10, 2019 11:40:18 GMT -5
Also be extra nice to the cleaning staff, you might need them one day.
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Post by chiver78 on Apr 10, 2019 15:12:35 GMT -5
I forgot to post about this over the weekend, but by chance I ran into the other engineer from the train wreck. he told me that they haven't replaced me yet, that he isn't sure if they are going to. he said that nothing has changed, and that he may be following me out the door in the coming months.
I just smh now, so happy I was able to GTFO.
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Post by justme on Apr 10, 2019 15:23:12 GMT -5
Conversation was recruiter was short and sweet! As I guessed it, the company was “Aldi”... too big of a gap between my base and their base, and we are not even talking Bonus. The only upside: - I would work less hours there. - I get paid overtime after 40, you are guaranteed 5 hours overtime every week (since they expect you to work 45). He actually used that as a way to pump the compensation an extra ~10k. - from outside looking in: less stressful environment. But a ~30k paycut is not exactly the goal, only to be stuck in retail still. If I was in a jam / unemployed would I consider it : heck ya! But not there ... Not saying to jump on the paycut - but how many hours do you work now? If ~$10k=5hrs/week then ~$30k would be 15. 45 vs 60. I seem to recall you mentioning working crazy hours, but I'm not sure if it was 60+ hours. I personally would seriously consider $30k less for 15 hours of my week back (multiply that out for the year ), but I'm also a desk jockey in an industry/job where I'd either laugh or faint at that many hours.
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Post by alabamagal on Apr 10, 2019 18:48:25 GMT -5
Bought new interview suit - well jacket and blouse. Hair cut today. Leaving tomorrow for on site interview. DH is going with me he will check out the area while I am interviewing.
On the way tomorrow, will stop and visit with MIL and possibly DS.
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Apr 10, 2019 22:28:39 GMT -5
Bought new interview suit - well jacket and blouse. Hair cut today. Leaving tomorrow for on site interview. DH is going with me he will check out the area while I am interviewing. On the way tomorrow, will stop and visit with MIL and possibly DS. Good luck with all the prep!! Reminded me what a basket case I was with mine.
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Post by bean29 on Apr 11, 2019 10:36:23 GMT -5
Bought new interview suit - well jacket and blouse. Hair cut today. Leaving tomorrow for on site interview. DH is going with me he will check out the area while I am interviewing. On the way tomorrow, will stop and visit with MIL and possibly DS. Good Luck!
DD texted me - she got the job! Passed the background Check! I am so glad, b/c that was a hella lot of trouble for a temporary job. I was thinking they must hold on to their employees as long as possible, as it is not exactly easy for them to hire them. She starts the 24th.
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Post by TheHaitian on Apr 11, 2019 17:36:03 GMT -5
Bought new interview suit - well jacket and blouse. Hair cut today. Leaving tomorrow for on site interview. DH is going with me he will check out the area while I am interviewing. On the way tomorrow, will stop and visit with MIL and possibly DS. Good Luck!
DD texted me - she got the job! Passed the background Check! I am so glad, b/c that was a hella lot of trouble for a temporary job. I was thinking they must hold on to their employees as long as possible, as it is not exactly easy for them to hire them. She starts the 24th.
Congrats to your DD
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Post by TheHaitian on Apr 11, 2019 17:38:23 GMT -5
Conversation was recruiter was short and sweet! As I guessed it, the company was “Aldi”... too big of a gap between my base and their base, and we are not even talking Bonus. The only upside: - I would work less hours there. - I get paid overtime after 40, you are guaranteed 5 hours overtime every week (since they expect you to work 45). He actually used that as a way to pump the compensation an extra ~10k. - from outside looking in: less stressful environment. But a ~30k paycut is not exactly the goal, only to be stuck in retail still. If I was in a jam / unemployed would I consider it : heck ya! But not there ... Not saying to jump on the paycut - but how many hours do you work now? If ~$10k=5hrs/week then ~$30k would be 15. 45 vs 60. I seem to recall you mentioning working crazy hours, but I'm not sure if it was 60+ hours. I personally would seriously consider $30k less for 15 hours of my week back (multiply that out for the year ), but I'm also a desk jockey in an industry/job where I'd either laugh or faint at that many hours. On a regular per contract I should work 50 vs the 45... but yeah at times we have been known to work crazy hours (this week and next for me since we are down 1 person so ~60 hours). But with so many people quitting over the work life balance (5 in the past 3 weeks) and we are very short staff, the district manager has been pushing all those managers to have “fair scheduling” LOL!! Aka we cannot afford to lose any more people.
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Post by TheHaitian on Apr 11, 2019 17:39:13 GMT -5
I was reached today about a store manager position at CVS... I answered I was interested and we need to schedule a time to talk.
We will see... still have not apply for anything yet, need to make the time.
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Post by andi9899 on Apr 12, 2019 13:49:56 GMT -5
So remember that messed up thing from last week with the manager and her unprofessional behavior? My boss asked me to talk about it today. She basically told me that the manager D and the other employee K meant nothing by their behavior and that's just the banter they have between each other. I was also told that what I could have done better is to have told the manager about it instead of the person being made fun of. Seriously?! It's ok that the manager was very loudly making fun of an employee that was visibly upset just because that's how she is?! And I could have done something better?! Are you fucking kidding me?! I'm so out of here.
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Post by shanendoah on Apr 12, 2019 15:28:22 GMT -5
andi9899 - My snarky response to your boss is "No, what I could have done better was use my phone to get a video of their actions and words, and use that to file a complaint with HR about a hostile work environment."
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Post by andi9899 on Apr 12, 2019 16:57:31 GMT -5
andi9899 - My snarky response to your boss is "No, what I could have done better was use my phone to get a video of their actions and words, and use that to file a complaint with HR about a hostile work environment." I so wish I had done just that. I was just so stunned at what was happening that i didn't think about that.
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Post by alabamagal on Apr 12, 2019 20:18:37 GMT -5
Job interview went really well today. I really think I will get an offer. I really think I am the only candidate considered and they were really trying to sell me on the job. I am hoping to hear next week. DH and I went to Chinese restaurant for dinner. I got a normal vague fortune cookie, his said to expect some good news on Thursday, so I accused him of swapping the cookies
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Apr 14, 2019 9:02:20 GMT -5
ok - so looking on glass door, I see a position with my former title at oldcompany in KS with a salary of 124-160k - very similar job description and I think I'd be a good fit.
I'm sure col in KS is a lot less, and remote is possible, there is 30% travel - but that would be pretty ok if otherwise remote.
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Post by andi9899 on Apr 14, 2019 9:18:36 GMT -5
What state do you live in now? I forget. I'd call KS a LCOL area. Are you already thinking about leaving this new job?
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Apr 14, 2019 10:21:36 GMT -5
What state do you live in now? I forget. I'd call KS a LCOL area. Are you already thinking about leaving this new job? I live in chicago, so I think quite a bit higher than any part of kansas, but could do remote so no need to move. I guess the honeymoon is over and I've been checking glassdoor for a month or so, just so I know what is out there. I do truly love "the job" part of the job, but there has been more issues from this higher up that I feel may be professional jealousy or just a general tendency to micro manage a bit and it's not going to get better. I'm used to calling the shots on my individual projects - be that research or operational stuff, and now my research ideas are taken away from me just as I articulate them and I'm being second guessed on pretty standard stuff - in front of clients. I don't think I'll make any plans to leave as yet, but I've been looking. I'm not quite sure what that means yet.
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Post by andi9899 on Apr 14, 2019 11:19:10 GMT -5
I'm sorry. That sucks. I hope it all works out for you. I live in KC and I'm pretty sure our COL is lower than yours.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2019 15:41:41 GMT -5
Did everyone suddenly find jobs? Or did you guys just quit posting about it?
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Post by Lizard Queen on Apr 20, 2019 16:37:42 GMT -5
I finally got one. I think I was one of the last holdouts. The additional part time job possibility turned into a full time one, so I'm just sticking with the one job I started 2 weeks ago.
There's a couple new people that unfortunately lost their jobs. Hopefully they find something soon.
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Post by flutterby on Apr 21, 2019 6:48:46 GMT -5
I'm still half-assed looking. I have an interview tomorrow, but the job sounds meh, so I don't really care how it goes. The last few I've interviewed for have ended up going to internal candidates, so I never had a chance at those, and they were a complete waste of my time and energy. Makes it hard to get excited about any new interview when it'll probably be the same situation.
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Post by alabamagal on Apr 21, 2019 7:12:59 GMT -5
I’m still waiting to hear from company I interviewed with. It’s been one week. It’s a big company sometimes things. Go slow. Trying to stay positive.
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