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Post by Value Buy on Nov 27, 2015 19:04:27 GMT -5
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Post by Value Buy on Nov 27, 2015 19:09:52 GMT -5
From the article www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/number-of-migrants-illegally-crossing-rio-grande-rises-sharply/ar-AAfJtLD?li=BBnb7KzMISSION, Tex. — The numbers of migrants crossing the Rio Grande illegally have risen sharply in recent weeks, replaying scenes from the influx of Central American children and families in South Texas last year. Once again, smugglers are bringing hundreds of women and children each day to the Mexican banks of the river and sending them across in rafts. In a season when illegal crossings normally go down, “The numbers have started going the other way,” said Raul L. Ortiz, acting chief of the Border Patrol for the Rio Grande Valley. Since Oct. 1, official figures show, Border Patrol apprehensions of migrant families in this region have increased 150 percent over the same period last year, while the number of unaccompanied children caught by agents has more than doubled. The new flows here are smaller than the surge in the summer of 2014, but come after a year of declines in illegal crossings across the southwest border. The increases come as Americans’ concerns about border security are heightened after the Nov. 13 attacks in Paris raised fears that terrorists would try to sneak into the United States. And they are complicating the Obama administration’s efforts to reassure the country that the border is under control. Border officials said that they were monitoring the growing stream, but that they had not signaled a higher security risk or activated any special response. A mix of factors seems to be driving the new flow. Many of the migrants are women and children fleeing vicious gangs and endemic sexual violence in Central America who are hoping for asylum in the United States. Rather than hiding from Border Patrol agents they often try to find them, to ask for protection and start the long legal battle to remain here. In October, the United Nations High Commissioner for refugees, António Guterres, said uncontrolled violence by the gangs had become “pervasive” in El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras. He issued an “early warning” of “a looming refugee crisis.”
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Post by djAdvocate on Nov 27, 2015 19:10:09 GMT -5
i don't think that anyone was denying that what Trump said was partly true.
i think the criticism stems from the idea that MOST or ALL of the border crossers are "rapists".
do you think that is true?
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Post by Value Buy on Nov 27, 2015 19:14:40 GMT -5
i don't think that anyone was denying that what Trump said was partly true. i think the criticism stems from the idea that MOST or ALL of the border crossers are "rapists". do you think that is true? Mainstream media and the Democrats tried to castrate Trump on those remarks. Now he has further proof from agencies describing the caliber of the people.
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Post by Tennesseer on Nov 27, 2015 19:18:41 GMT -5
But are they all rapists and killers?
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Post by djAdvocate on Nov 27, 2015 19:25:37 GMT -5
seriously, VB. let's think about the comments.
'They're bringing drugs, they're bringing crime, they're rapists,' he said then. 'And some I assume are good people, but I speak to border guards and they tell us what we are getting.'
when i read that, it implies that MOST are rapists and killers. at least to me.
THAT is what i found offensive, because i am sure it is not true.
if he had said that SOME are rapists and killers and MOST are nice people, most of us would scarcely have noticed the comments.
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Post by djAdvocate on Nov 27, 2015 19:26:43 GMT -5
Trump can afford the very best PR. i expect him to pose with dying baby seals any day now.
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Post by Value Buy on Nov 27, 2015 19:28:04 GMT -5
Trump can afford the very best PR. i expect him to pose with dying baby seals any day now. Or at the carcass of a couple of snow leopards. (Virgil gets this)
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Post by djAdvocate on Nov 27, 2015 19:36:18 GMT -5
Trump can afford the very best PR. i expect him to pose with dying baby seals any day now. Or at the carcass of a couple of snow leopards. (Virgil gets this) Virgil posts about snow leopards all of the time. i don't get the inside joke, but i know it IS one.
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Post by chiver78 on Nov 27, 2015 19:40:25 GMT -5
I personally have no problem accepting people escaping horrific conditions. I guess I don't understand the problem here.
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Post by djAdvocate on Nov 27, 2015 19:40:56 GMT -5
VB- not to freak you out any more than you already are, but you know about these guys? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS-13it kinda makes my blood run cold to think about it. don't honestly know how to fix this one. if Trump were smart, he would FOCUS on stuff like this, instead of painting with such a huge brushstroke that everyone who is not like him gets swept up in it. he is doing no service to the actual problem by exaggerating it. it is bad enough without the exaggerations. edit: note: they are not "Mexicans"
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Post by Tennesseer on Nov 27, 2015 19:56:20 GMT -5
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Post by zibazinski on Nov 27, 2015 20:12:16 GMT -5
I'm not thrilled about invaders to this country but if we continue the welfare handouts, it's going to continue. Stop the benefits and you'll stop a lot of the problem.
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Post by Value Buy on Nov 28, 2015 8:48:15 GMT -5
"Running for their lives" Yep, that is what they claim. Does not make it true. Two or three years later, they have their gang member relatives move north to their new lives, and join them, as you know. 'Well, they are family after all".
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