Chilling ISIS Propanganda

[Virgil Showlion]

This video was just released by Al Hayat, ISIS' propaganda arm. It's not long. Watch it start to finish and tell me what you think.

Note that it doesn't contain any of the ultra-violent footage in any of the group's previous releases, but there is violence in it.

Video is hosted at archive.org/details/NoRespiteEN_201511. Apparently Proboards doesn't support this site in their embedded player.

Article about it here: www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-25/isis-releases-greatest-piece-terrorist-video-propaganda-history-tells-us-russia-brin

[b2r]

[Virgil Showlion]

Thanks, b2r.

[billisonboard]

That was impressive. Very well done.

However,  I am not sure why you wish to be a part of the propaganda distribution division  of the ISIS organization. 

[mmhmm]

Nov 26, 2015 11:15:37 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

That was impressive. Very well done.

However,  I am not sure why you wish to be a part of the propaganda distribution division  of the ISIS organization. 

I don't expect that video to be around for long. It has been reported to those who care about such things.

[Virgil Showlion]

Nov 26, 2015 11:15:37 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

That was impressive. Very well done.

However,  I am not sure why you wish to be a part of the propaganda distribution division  of the ISIS organization. 

Ah ah ah.

I once asked a certain poster this same question in regards to his posting propaganda by the KKK. The other mods came down on me like a ton of bricks, calling the criticism a personal attack. mmhmm's "like" on your post is her way of warning you that you're also breaking the rules.

Having said this, I've posted the video here because the production quality surprised me, the message is pertinent to several recent discussions, and I know the audience.

[mmhmm]

Nov 26, 2015 11:48:29 GMT -5 Virgil Showlion said:

Nov 26, 2015 11:15:37 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

That was impressive. Very well done.

However,  I am not sure why you wish to be a part of the propaganda distribution division  of the ISIS organization. 

Ah ah ah.

I once asked a certain poster this same question in regards to his posting propaganda by the KKK. The other mods came down on me like a ton of bricks, calling the criticism a personal attack. mmhmm's "like" on your post is her way of warning you that you're also breaking the rules.

Having said this, I've posted the video here because the production quality surprised me, the message is pertinent to several recent discussions, and I know the audience.

No, Virgil, that was not the meaning of my "like." Again, I must ask you not to wax eloquent on my motivations since you know nothing about them. Thank you kindly.

My "like" was to show my understanding and empathy with billis' comment. The more exposure given to this sort of thing in today's environment the more likely it is to proliferate. Daesh is very competent at producing things like this for social media. It's one of their stronger capabilities. It's the cyber edge of their war on all who don't live the way they think people should live. Others are doing their best to get this stuff taken down just as quickly as they can. It's a game of whack-a-mole, unfortunately.

[billisonboard]

Nov 26, 2015 11:48:29 GMT -5 Virgil Showlion said:

Nov 26, 2015 11:15:37 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

That was impressive. Very well done.

However,  I am not sure why you wish to be a part of the propaganda distribution division  of the ISIS organization. 

Ah ah ah.

I once asked a certain poster this same question in regards to his posting propaganda by the KKK. The other mods came down on me like a ton of bricks, calling the criticism a personal attack. mmhmm's "like" on your post is her way of warning you that you're also breaking the rules.

Having said this, I've posted the video here because the production quality surprised me, the message is pertinent to several recent discussions, and I know the audience.

Now with more coffee in me, I am reconsidering my earlier posting. I reread your set-up and it is more reasonable than the feeling your thread title suggests. I do feel okay about my wording in my posting not being a personal attack. It addressed your action, not you as a person.

So, back to the video. I hope it does stay up. We are bombarded with one side of propaganda constantly. Why not see the stuff from the other side.

[Virgil Showlion]

Nov 26, 2015 11:55:45 GMT -5 mmhmm said:

Others are doing their best to get this stuff taken down just as quickly as they can. It's a game of whack-a-mole, unfortunately.

Should it be taken down, though? Whatever happened to freedom of speech?

The Allies reprinted Axis propaganda during WWII, and the Nazis reprinted Axis propaganda. There were some exceptions, but clearly they saw the documents as instructive re enemy motivations.

"Know thyself; know thy enemy." - Sun Tzu

Nov 26, 2015 12:00:12 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Now with more coffee in me, I am reconsidering my earlier posting. I reread your set-up and it is more reasonable than the feeling your thread title suggests. I do feel okay about my wording in my posting not being a personal attack. It addressed your action, not you as a person.

So, back to the video. I hope it does stay up. We are bombarded with one side of propaganda constantly. Why not see the stuff from the other side.

I was being facetious. I didn't mind the suggestion, although my claim about being censured for a like suggestion in the past is true.

As for the rest: my thoughts exactly.

[mmhmm]

Nov 26, 2015 13:12:41 GMT -5 Virgil Showlion said:

Nov 26, 2015 11:55:45 GMT -5 mmhmm said:

Others are doing their best to get this stuff taken down just as quickly as they can. It's a game of whack-a-mole, unfortunately.

Should it be taken down, though? Whatever happened to freedom of speech?

The Allies reprinted Axis propaganda during WWII, and the Nazis reprinted Axis propaganda. There were some exceptions, but clearly they saw the documents as instructive re enemy motivations.

"Know thyself; know thy enemy." - Sun Tzu

Should it be taken down? I don't really have an opinion in that regard. Individuals will see that in different ways. I can respect that. I, personally, wouldn't remove it; however, I am not everyone and my opinions don't run the world. Some believe it should be taken down and are working toward that goal.

[Virgil Showlion]

Nov 26, 2015 13:27:18 GMT -5 mmhmm said:

Nov 26, 2015 13:12:41 GMT -5 Virgil Showlion said:

Should it be taken down, though? Whatever happened to freedom of speech?

The Allies reprinted Axis propaganda during WWII, and the Nazis reprinted Axis propaganda. There were some exceptions, but clearly they saw the documents as instructive re enemy motivations.

"Know thyself; know thy enemy." - Sun Tzu

Should it be taken down? I don't really have an opinion in that regard. Individuals will see that in different ways. I can respect that. I, personally, wouldn't remove it; however, I am not everyone and my opinions don't run the world. Some believe it should be taken down and are working toward that goal.

By "some", you mean agents and offices of the US government? Activist hackers (I refuse to use the term "hacktivist". )? The PC police?

[mmhmm]

Nov 26, 2015 13:36:59 GMT -5 Virgil Showlion said:

Nov 26, 2015 13:27:18 GMT -5 mmhmm said:

Should it be taken down? I don't really have an opinion in that regard. Individuals will see that in different ways. I can respect that. I, personally, wouldn't remove it; however, I am not everyone and my opinions don't run the world. Some believe it should be taken down and are working toward that goal.

By "some", you mean agents and offices of the US government? Activist hackers (I refuse to use the term "hacktivist". )? The PC police?

Both the first two. The latter isn't something to which I subscribe. PC doesn't mean anything to me and I give it no thought.

[djAdvocate]

Nov 26, 2015 11:15:37 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

That was impressive. Very well done.

However,  I am not sure why you wish to be a part of the propaganda distribution division  of the ISIS organization. 

i am not watching it for precisely that reason.  i know enough about ISIS already, thanks.

[djAdvocate]

Nov 26, 2015 11:48:29 GMT -5 Virgil Showlion said:

Nov 26, 2015 11:15:37 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

That was impressive. Very well done.

However,  I am not sure why you wish to be a part of the propaganda distribution division  of the ISIS organization. 

Ah ah ah.

I once asked a certain poster this same question in regards to his posting propaganda by the KKK. The other mods came down on me like a ton of bricks, calling the criticism a personal attack. mmhmm's "like" on your post is her way of warning you that you're also breaking the rules.

Having said this, I've posted the video here because the production quality surprised me, the message is pertinent to several recent discussions, and I know the audience.

interesting.

i know very well that their videos are slick, but i get called a "f*&king idiot" by another poster because i don't know ISIS's nickname-of-the-month.

which is more important, do you think?

[billisonboard]

Nov 26, 2015 13:42:36 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Nov 26, 2015 11:48:29 GMT -5 Virgil Showlion said:

Ah ah ah.

I once asked a certain poster this same question in regards to his posting propaganda by the KKK. The other mods came down on me like a ton of bricks, calling the criticism a personal attack. mmhmm's "like" on your post is her way of warning you that you're also breaking the rules.

Having said this, I've posted the video here because the production quality surprised me, the message is pertinent to several recent discussions, and I know the audience.

interesting.

i know very well that their videos are slick, but i get called a "f*&king idiot" by another poster because i don't know ISIS's nickname-of-the-month.

which is more important, do you think?

I think being aware of the French term for the organization more important. It shows that one was gaining new information from the latest going-ons. But that is just my opinion for the question you asked.

[Virgil Showlion]

Nov 26, 2015 13:42:36 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Nov 26, 2015 11:48:29 GMT -5 Virgil Showlion said:

Ah ah ah.

I once asked a certain poster this same question in regards to his posting propaganda by the KKK. The other mods came down on me like a ton of bricks, calling the criticism a personal attack. mmhmm's "like" on your post is her way of warning you that you're also breaking the rules.

Having said this, I've posted the video here because the production quality surprised me, the message is pertinent to several recent discussions, and I know the audience.

interesting.

i know very well that their videos are slick, but i get called a "f*&king idiot" by another poster because i don't know ISIS's nickname-of-the-month.

which is more important, do you think?

I think that one can live a long, happy, productive life without ever learning a blessed thing about ISIS. Learn about them if and only if you want to keep abreast of world affairs.

If the "idiot" comment referred to ignorance of the term "Daesh", then I was an idiot up until a few days ago too. We idiots need to stick together.

As for this video, it's the first one out of Al Hayat I've ever watched. Their previous releases were people being beheaded, burned, or drowned on-camera, and I have no interest in watching that kind of barbarity.

This video... unexpected. It's professional. There's really no other way to put it. Still teeming with violence, but it doesn't have the barbarity or thrown-togetherness of previous releases. It's something I'd expect to see in a major video game title, not real life. I'd almost suspect it was produced by the war hawks in Washington (indeed many of the conspiracy heads at ZH have suggested this) if not for the long segments mocking soldier suicides and the absurd costs of the ME wars.

It made me wonder just what we do and don't know about this group. As billis says, it's a shock to get propaganda from the other side of a war. I've been eating such a steady diet of puppies and rainbows. "ISIS is contained", "ISIS is on the run", "ISIS is being pounded to dust", "ISIS is just a few rag-tag militants". OK. I can't prove otherwise. But if they're boldly releasing studio-quality "Bring it on!" videos that ZH calls "the greatest terrorist propaganda ever produced" (which I see no reason to disagree with), I have to wonder just how many puppies and rainbows I've been fed.

Remember, you're talking to a guy who more or less believed that the US had routed Al Qaeda a few months before ISIS blew through Iraq like it was nothing.

Wha...? Who...? What the hell is ISIS? Wasn't Iraq...? I thought... They said...

It's the same thing with this video.

Wha...? Who...? They've got a professional media studio? They're promoting fraternity between men of all races? Citing statistics? Appealing to ideological fundamentalism? I thought... Cave-dwelling... They said...

[Artemis Windsong]

My paranoia.  Can they track who is watching the video?  Then consider them sympathizers?

I won't watch it because of guilt by association.

[djAdvocate]

Nov 26, 2015 14:00:01 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Nov 26, 2015 13:42:36 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

interesting.

i know very well that their videos are slick, but i get called a "f*&king idiot" by another poster because i don't know ISIS's nickname-of-the-month.

which is more important, do you think?

I think being aware of the French term for the organization more important. It shows that one was gaining new information from the latest going-ons. But that is just my opinion for the question you asked.

your candor is appreciated.  thanks.  didn't know it was French.  that explains a great deal.

i guess the days of Freedom Fries are gone?