Mocking Concerns About Refugees Makes Dem Appear Detached

[Shooby]

Mother Jones: Mocking Concerns About Refugees Makes Democrats Appear Detached from Reality

It’s not every day that Mother Jones magazine publishes something asking progressives to take it down a notch, but that’s what author Kevin Drum did in a piece published Tuesday.

Drum was reacting to a flood of mockery he saw in his Twitter feed Monday. While fellow progressives were directing their barbs at anyone suggesting the U.S. should reconsider taking in refugees from countries awash in Islamic extremists, Drum notes this is not a concern limited to the far right.

As proof, Drum cites a Pew poll published by the Washington Post. While the poll doesn’t directly address the refugee situation, it does show that a majority (71%) of Republicans and nearly half of Democrats (46%) are concerned about the spread of Islamic extremism here at home. Those numbers represent a large base of people who might see the refugee question as a genuine national security concern in the wake of the Paris attacks.

Given the polling, Drum writes, “It doesn’t seem xenophobic or crazy to call for an end to accepting Syrian refugees. It seems like simple common sense.” And therein lies the political problem for Democrats. Attacking those who think it might be time to reconsider our plans to import refugees from Syria, “seems absurdly out of touch to a lot of people.” Drum writes that it leaves some people wondering if Democrats are “detached from reality?”

Mocking it is the worst thing we could do. It validates all the worst stereotypes about liberals that we put political correctness ahead of national security. It doesn’t matter if that’s right or wrong. Ordinary people see it as a common sense thing to be concerned about. We shouldn’t respond by essentially calling them idiots. That way lies electoral disaster.

Drum is not saying he agrees with the voices concerned about national security, he’s merely saying Democrats should avoid appearing insensitive to voter’s concerns. It’s clear he sees this primarily as an optics problem when he writes [emphasis added], “we should act like this is a legitimate thing to be concerned about.” That’s good advice, but it assumes voters won’t be able to tell Democrats are feigning their concern while stifling the urge to accuse anyone who disagrees with them of xenophobia.

www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/11/17/mother-jones-mocking-concerns-refugees-makes-democrats-appear-detached-reality/

[billisonboard]

I fully agree that politicians who are not being lead by the polls are at risk of being thought a fool. Now is not a good time for leaders to step forward to stem the people's irrational emotional reactions. Feeding it will certainly party dividends in a politician's career.

[fishy999]

Another take on it:


www.rawstory.com/2015/11/sam-harris-liberals-who-dont-fight-islamism-end-up-empowering-christian-fascists/


"Harris said his biggest fear was “Christian fascists” coming to power because liberals fail to acknowledge the true nature of Islamic extremism.

“There will come a time when the only people who have the moral conviction to oppose this death cult behavior will be nearly as bad as the Islamists themselves – I’m speaking of right-wing Christian fascists of some sort.”

[djAdvocate]

Nov 17, 2015 21:51:07 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

I fully agree that politicians who are not being lead by the polls are at risk of being thought a fool. Now is not a good time for leaders to step forward to stem the people's irrational emotional reactions. Feeding it will certainly party dividends in a politician's career.

those gains tend to be rather short lived.  but we shall see.

[verrip1]

Perhaps we could require that they wear a red cloth letter A on their topclothes ...

[djAdvocate]

Nov 17, 2015 22:02:04 GMT -5 verrip1 said:

Perhaps we could require that they wear a red cloth letter A on their topclothes ...

i am thinking that a tatoo on their foreheads might be visible beneath the burka.

note to the board: that was the bitterest of sarcasm, directed toward the late unpleasantness which we had hoped was over 70 years ago.

[b2r]

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[verrip1]

If we wish ill on entire groups of people because of where they come from, what kind of people are we?

[Value Buy]

Some people on this board are now facing the humiliation and sarcasm Republicans on this board have been served up since 2008.

Anyone seen the movie trailer in theaters now, for the Libyan execution of Ambassador Stevens by Hillary's description of protesters", yet?
Coming to a theater near you in January.
I imagine Hillary is thrilled to death to see this coming out in January.
February or March would probably destroy her in the polls.

By coming out in January, she might be able to rebuild her numbers before November.

[Shooby]

Nov 17, 2015 23:14:56 GMT -5 verrip1 said:

If we wish ill on entire groups of people because of where they come from, what kind of people are we?

What does that have to do with anything?  The people wishing "ill will" are the ones who gunned down a bunch of Frenchmen.

[Shooby]

We have LEGAL immigration and ways to allow LEGAL immigration. I doubt very much any muslim country will allow a mass influx of Christians. Uh huh. We don't have to solve all of the world's problems and roll over and die when we can clearly see the violence and cultural Rot that will ensure. It ain't rocket science.

[Shooby]

The only possible conclusion one can come too is that liberals have a death wish and wish to annihilate and destroy this nation. Because it is obvious that they hate America and are hell bent on their own personal suicide mission.

[busymom]

Not to hijack this thread, but we've got a large community of (Muslim) immigrants who have moved into one neighborhood in our nearest large city. In our state, we use the caucus system for political campaigns. The last caucus that was in that neighborhood, a bunch of the immigrants came to try & shout down the speaker, & essentially shut down the caucus. If immigrants wish to come here, they have to play by the rules of the state, not try to disrupt & play by their own rules. JMHO. And frankly, I really don't want more of them here, until they learn to work with the system. (I know, that sounds SO mean. But, as many of you know, my grandparents were immigrants, and they DID play by the rules.)

[Tennesseer]

Nov 18, 2015 8:15:37 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Some people on this board are now facing the humiliation and sarcasm Republicans on this board have been served up since 2008.

Anyone seen the movie trailer in theaters now, for the Libyan execution of Ambassador Stevens by Hillary's description of protesters", yet?
Coming to a theater near you in January.
I imagine Hillary is thrilled to death to see this coming out in January.
February or March would probably destroy her in the polls.

By coming out in January, she might be able to rebuild her numbers before November.

The only one who should be humiliated and embarassed for such an inane statement is you!

[Tennesseer]

Nov 18, 2015 8:30:06 GMT -5 Shooby said:

The only possible conclusion one can come too is that liberals have a death wish and wish to annihilate and destroy this nation. Because it is obvious that they hate America and are hell bent on their own personal suicide mission.

That has always been our plan. BOO!

[billisonboard]

Nov 18, 2015 8:18:49 GMT -5 Shooby said:

Nov 17, 2015 23:14:56 GMT -5 verrip1 said:

If we wish ill on entire groups of people because of where they come from, what kind of people are we?

What does that have to do with anything?  The people wishing "ill will" are the ones who gunned down a bunch of Frenchmen.

You mean the French and Belgian nationals? The ones who are dead or on the run (with no evidence that they are seeking refugee status to come to the US). What does that have to do with Syrian refugees?

[midjd]

Nov 18, 2015 9:13:59 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Nov 18, 2015 8:30:06 GMT -5 Shooby said:

The only possible conclusion one can come too is that liberals have a death wish and wish to annihilate and destroy this nation. Because it is obvious that they hate America and are hell bent on their own personal suicide mission.

That has always been our plan. BOO!

Damn it, I thought we agreed to keep that a secret.

[Tennesseer]

Nov 18, 2015 9:22:00 GMT -5 midjd said:

Nov 18, 2015 9:13:59 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

That has always been our plan. BOO!

Damn it, I thought we agreed to keep that a secret.

It's time, my fellow Jihadist. Our time to cause havoc in Pennsylvania and Indiana is coming very soon.

[Value Buy]

Nov 18, 2015 8:44:42 GMT -5 busymom said:

Not to hijack this thread, but we've got a large community of (Muslim) immigrants who have moved into one neighborhood in our nearest large city. In our state, we use the caucus system for political campaigns. The last caucus that was in that neighborhood, a bunch of the immigrants came to try & shout down the speaker, & essentially shut down the caucus. If immigrants wish to come here, they have to play by the rules of the state, not try to disrupt & play by their own rules. JMHO. And frankly, I really don't want more of them here, until they learn to work with the system. (I know, that sounds SO mean. But, as many of you know, my grandparents were immigrants, and they DID play by the rules.)

Damn, you are going to be labeled a racist homophobic Republican anytime now.

[billisonboard]

Nov 18, 2015 8:44:42 GMT -5 busymom said:

Not to hijack this thread, but we've got a large community of (Muslim) immigrants who have moved into one neighborhood in our nearest large city. In our state, we use the caucus system for political campaigns. The last caucus that was in that neighborhood, a bunch of the immigrants came to try & shout down the speaker, & essentially shut down the caucus. If immigrants wish to come here, they have to play by the rules of the state, not try to disrupt & play by their own rules. JMHO. And frankly, I really don't want more of them here, until they learn to work with the system. (I know, that sounds SO mean. But, as many of you know, my grandparents were immigrants, and they DID play by the rules.)

Many, including native born Americans, need to learn how to play by the rules. Hopefully you were able to help those who disrupted the caucus grow in their understanding of our system.

[grumpyhermit]

Nov 18, 2015 8:44:42 GMT -5 busymom said:

Not to hijack this thread, but we've got a large community of (Muslim) immigrants who have moved into one neighborhood in our nearest large city. In our state, we use the caucus system for political campaigns. The last caucus that was in that neighborhood, a bunch of the immigrants came to try & shout down the speaker, & essentially shut down the caucus. If immigrants wish to come here, they have to play by the rules of the state, not try to disrupt & play by their own rules. JMHO. And frankly, I really don't want more of them here, until they learn to work with the system. (I know, that sounds SO mean. But, as many of you know, my grandparents were immigrants, and they DID play by the rules.)

Because only angry Muslim immigrants do this. Surely a mob of angry white folks, born and bred in the US, has never shut down political discourse by being...loud and angry at political events.

Look, I actually don't disagree - if you are disrupting the process, and not following the rules, you should be removed from the event. It also takes time to assimilate. Cultural norms vary, so I can see where it may take time to understand that that is not how we do things here.

[zibazinski]

Really?

[b2r]

Nov 18, 2015 9:29:15 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Nov 18, 2015 9:22:00 GMT -5 midjd said:

Damn it, I thought we agreed to keep that a secret.

It's time, my fellow Jihadist. Our time to cause havoc in Pennsylvania and Indiana is coming very soon.

              Allah praises the migrants and the Helpers...Hijrah!