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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 4, 2015 10:34:20 GMT -5
I suppose in the Kentucky case, citizens and residents were waiting for something they were immediately and legally entitled to.
While in the Arizona case, citizens and residents are not waiting for Arpio to do something they are legally and immediately entitled to.
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Post by kittensaver on Sept 4, 2015 10:35:37 GMT -5
Well first of all, it was not in "like a week." This has been going on since the ruling in June. It just very recently came to the attention of the interwebz.
Second . . . um, ever heard of two little things call "political collusion" and "political" corruption"?
Ms. Kim has neither of these powerful corrupt allies behind her. 'Nuff said.
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 4, 2015 12:09:58 GMT -5
Why is it Kim Davis is in jail for Contempt of Federal Court because She failed to issue a marriage licence to a gay couple. fail. she was NOT arrested because she failed to issue a marriage license. try again. |
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Post by OldCoyote on Sept 4, 2015 22:19:48 GMT -5
Ok dj If she wasn't put in jail for Contempt of Court, what was she put in jail for?
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Post by OldCoyote on Sept 4, 2015 22:21:51 GMT -5
I suppose in the Kentucky case, citizens and residents were waiting for something they were immediately and legally entitled to. While in the Arizona case, citizens and residents are not waiting for Arpio to do something they are legally and immediately entitled to. I don't think the citizens have anything to do with this. |
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Post by fishy999 on Sept 4, 2015 22:52:59 GMT -5
She was jailed because she defied a court order- you do not screw with federal judges- and even the people on the other side did not want her jailed. The judge reasoned that supporters would pay her fines so he had no option. The judge tried to avoid the charge by offering her a way out- she said no and threw herself on the cross thanks to her 'legal team' that is using her. The current wisdom is she will be in there for at least a week- and her 'legal team' is arguing that the deputy clerks that have issued licenses are void. Obey the law or quit.
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 5, 2015 0:25:54 GMT -5
Ok dj If she wasn't put in jail for Contempt of Court, what was she put in jail for? she wasn't in contempt of court because of her failure to produce a marriage license. she was put in jail for the failure to comply with the court ordered compromise, which did not involve her producing marriage licenses. her bullshit crusade to not do her job doesn't permit her to demand that others fail to do theirs. sorry, but your statement was not correct. it was not off by much, but the court order did not demand that she do gay marriages. edit: oh, one more thing. she was not owed a compromise. i thought that the compromise (that she did NOT have to do any icky marriages, so long as her assistants could perform them, which they were willing to do) was a kind, generous, and thoughtful one. it did not put her on the hook for participating in evil. but no, she had to take her crusade to the people that work along side her- and in defiance of the law. so, yeah, i don't have much sympathy. neither should you. |
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Post by fairlycrazy23 on Sept 5, 2015 19:14:59 GMT -5
What I don't understand is why she wasn't just fired
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Post by billisonboard on Sept 5, 2015 19:33:47 GMT -5
What I don't understand is why she wasn't just fired She holds an elected position. |
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Post by ❤ mollymouser ❤ on Sept 5, 2015 19:58:29 GMT -5
What I don't understand is why she wasn't just fired Wasn't she elected? |
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Post by mmhmm on Sept 5, 2015 20:12:36 GMT -5
What I don't understand is why she wasn't just fired Wasn't she elected? Yes, she was. Thus, she cannot be simply fired. |
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 5, 2015 20:32:54 GMT -5
Yes, she was. Thus, she cannot be simply fired. she was asked to resign, which she COULD do. she refused. |
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 5, 2015 20:52:17 GMT -5
Yes, she was. Thus, she cannot be simply fired. she was asked to resign, which she COULD do. she refused. To also avoid sitting indefinitely in a jail cell, she was also asked not to interfere in the office while her employees handed out marriage licenses. She said she would interfere. So sit she does in jail with some other female prisoner looking to be here fifth husband. |
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Post by mmhmm on Sept 5, 2015 20:59:07 GMT -5
Yes, she was. Thus, she cannot be simply fired. she was asked to resign, which she COULD do. she refused. Yep. She could have made that choice if she was so offended. She could have let her staff issue the licenses without her interference. She chose not to do that, as well. She's exactly where she's chosen to be. I hope her 15 minutes of fame (or infamy) proves to have been worth it for her. |
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Post by fishy999 on Sept 5, 2015 21:58:18 GMT -5
The judge did not want to put her in jail, he offered solutions- she put her own ass in jail. And now the Westboro nuts are attacking her  They make their point that she is an adultress and unless she disowns her new husband then she is just another sinner. And I agree- doesn't matter when someone is "born again"- that does not absolve the person of living in sin- maybe she should submit to a righteous stoning  |
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 5, 2015 22:09:06 GMT -5
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 5, 2015 22:25:09 GMT -5
The judge did not want to put her in jail, he offered solutions- she put her own ass in jail. And now the Westboro nuts are attacking her They make their point that she is an adultress and unless she disowns her new husband then she is just another sinner. And I agree- doesn't matter when someone is "born again"- that does not absolve the person of living in sin- maybe she should submit to a righteous stoning |
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Post by OldCoyote on Sept 5, 2015 23:37:48 GMT -5
She was jailed because she defied a court order- you do not screw with federal judges- and even the people on the other side did not want her jailed. The judge reasoned that supporters would pay her fines so he had no option. The judge tried to avoid the charge by offering her a way out- she said no and threw herself on the cross thanks to her 'legal team' that is using her. The current wisdom is she will be in there for at least a week- and her 'legal team' is arguing that the deputy clerks that have issued licenses are void. Obey the law or quit. The Sheriff Joe has defied the Federal court order for over a year, on top of that failed to turn over other court order evidence, paid an investigator to investigate the Judge's family. He is not in jail! He has done things far worse than the woman. |
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 5, 2015 23:52:17 GMT -5
She was jailed because she defied a court order- you do not screw with federal judges- and even the people on the other side did not want her jailed. The judge reasoned that supporters would pay her fines so he had no option. The judge tried to avoid the charge by offering her a way out- she said no and threw herself on the cross thanks to her 'legal team' that is using her. The current wisdom is she will be in there for at least a week- and her 'legal team' is arguing that the deputy clerks that have issued licenses are void. Obey the law or quit. The Sheriff Joe has defied the Federal court order for over a year, on top of that failed to turn over other court order evidence, paid an investigator to investigate the Judge's family. He is not in jail! He has done things far worse than the woman. If you are so unhappy about it write to the judge to throw him in jail. |
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Post by mmhmm on Sept 6, 2015 1:13:35 GMT -5
She was jailed because she defied a court order- you do not screw with federal judges- and even the people on the other side did not want her jailed. The judge reasoned that supporters would pay her fines so he had no option. The judge tried to avoid the charge by offering her a way out- she said no and threw herself on the cross thanks to her 'legal team' that is using her. The current wisdom is she will be in there for at least a week- and her 'legal team' is arguing that the deputy clerks that have issued licenses are void. Obey the law or quit. The Sheriff Joe has defied the Federal court order for over a year, on top of that failed to turn over other court order evidence, paid an investigator to investigate the Judge's family. He is not in jail! He has done things far worse than the woman. Irrelevant. That's your problem in Arizona. Ms. Holierthanthou Davis is in Kentucky. You guys in Arizona concentrate on taking care of your problems and let Kentucky concentrate on taking care of theirs. |
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Post by OldCoyote on Sept 6, 2015 6:09:08 GMT -5
mmhmm, I couldn't care less about Davis, My complaint is that Sheriff Joe is immune to any immediate prosecution because he is in "above the law enforcement" group,
meaning police, prosecutors and usually Judges that turn a blind eye to police wrong doing. Remember the DOJ found nothing wrong with Sheriff Joe,
But after a citizens group filed a Federal lawsuit against the Sheriff, all kinds of crap has come out. So much for police investigation police!! justice served every time.
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Post by OldCoyote on Sept 6, 2015 6:17:34 GMT -5
The Sheriff Joe has defied the Federal court order for over a year, on top of that failed to turn over other court order evidence, paid an investigator to investigate the Judge's family. He is not in jail! He has done things far worse than the woman. If you are so unhappy about it write to the judge to throw him in jail. I was thinking of making up a sign, protesting in front of the Sheriff office, Full well knowing the Sheriff deputies would on my butt in 30 seconds, filing charges that I was Threatening the life of the Sheriff. |
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Post by mmhmm on Sept 6, 2015 12:35:27 GMT -5
mmhmm, I couldn't care less about Davis, My complaint is that Sheriff Joe is immune to any immediate prosecution because he is in "above the law enforcement" group, meaning police, prosecutors and usually Judges that turn a blind eye to police wrong doing. Remember the DOJ found nothing wrong with Sheriff Joe, But after a citizens group filed a Federal lawsuit against the Sheriff, all kinds of crap has come out. So much for police investigation police!! justice served every time. I can understand that. However, that has absolutely nothing to do with Kim Davis in Kentucky. Sheriff Joe is Arizona's problem, not Kentucky's problem. Arizona needs to do something about Sheriff Joe. Carrying on about Kim Davis in Kentucky isn't going to accomplish that. There is no comparison. |
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 13, 2015 1:21:58 GMT -5
Because the real agenda is not marriage equality, but the criminalization of Christianity.
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Post by tallguy on Sept 13, 2015 3:08:51 GMT -5
Bound and determined to destroy every last shred of credibility you could ever have here, aren't you?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2015 3:44:13 GMT -5
Because the real agenda is not marriage equality, but the criminalization of Christianity. You know... you MIGHT have had something if you'd said "the real agenda is not marriage equality, the real agenda is the removal of Christianity from our Government... as the Founding Fathers intended". But noooooooo. You had to fall of the deep end. No one wants to "criminalize" Christianity... people are just tired of being subjugated by it, in violation of the Constitution. Remove it from the Government and everyone's happy. |
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 13, 2015 9:14:28 GMT -5
Bound and determined to destroy every last shred of credibility you could ever have here, aren't you? The credibility train left the station years ago. |
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 13, 2015 10:53:24 GMT -5
Because the real agenda is not marriage equality, but the criminalization of Christianity. yeah, because this is a realistic thing that could happen in a culture that is 84% Christian......  |
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