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Post by Phoenix84 on Jul 9, 2015 18:33:53 GMT -5
Found a quiz to help determine if you're a sociopath.
Take it if you want and post your answers.
1. Are you superficially charming and intelligent? 2. 2. Do you have delusions or other signs of irrational thinking? 3. Are you overly nervous, or do you have other neuroses? 4. Are you reliable? 5. Do you tell lies or say insincere things? 6. Do you feel remorse or shame? 7. Is your behavior anti-social for no good reason? 8. Do you have poor judgment, and fail to learn from experience? 9. Are you pathologically egocentric, and incapable of love? 10. Do you generally lack the ability to react emotionally? 11. Do you lack insight? 12. Are you responsive to others socially? 13. Are you a crazy party fiend? 14. Do you make false suicide threats? 15. Is your sex life impersonal, trivial or poorly integrated? 16. Have you failed to follow a life plan?
www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/16-questions-that-doctors-use-to-figure-out-if-youre-a-sociopath/ar-AAcLTIv
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Post by Phoenix84 on Jul 9, 2015 18:37:44 GMT -5
Answers
1. Are you superficially charming and intelligent? Answer: For sociopaths, the answer to this question is yes.)
2. 2. Do you have delusions or other signs of irrational thinking? (A: For sociopaths, the answer is no. They're super-rational, coldly so.)
3. Are you overly nervous, or do you have other neuroses? (A: Sociopaths are rarely nervous or anxious. They aren't scared of risk.)
4. Are you reliable? (A: Sociopaths are unreliable.)
5. Do you tell lies or say insincere things? (A: Sociopaths are comfortable not telling the truth when it suits them.)
6. Do you feel remorse or shame? (A: Sociopaths rarely feel guilt.)
7. Is your behavior anti-social for no good reason? (A: Sociopaths may have "inadequately motivated antisocial behavior," according to Cleckley.)
8. Do you have poor judgment, and fail to learn from experience? (A: Sociopaths think they're smarter than everyone else, but they take risks the rest of us would not and don't learn from punishment.)
9. Are you pathologically egocentric, and incapable of love? (A: Sociopaths are.)
10. Do you generally lack the ability to react emotionally? (A: Sociopaths don't experience emotions the way the rest of us do.)
11. Do you lack insight? (A: Sociopaths aren't self-reflective or meditative.)
12. Are you responsive to others socially? (A: Interestingly, sociopaths often have to fake their reactions and responses to the rest of us in order to get through their days without being "spotted.")
13. Are you a crazy party fiend? (A: Sociopaths engage in "fantastic and uninviting behavior with drink and sometimes without," Cleckley says. Thomas adds that sociopaths often crave (meaningless) sex more than the rest of us, too.)
14. Do you make false suicide threats? (A: Yep, sociopaths are drama queens.)
15. Is your sex life impersonal, trivial or poorly integrated? (A: Sociopaths lack the ability to love.)
16. Have you failed to follow a life plan? (A: Sociopaths have difficulty holding down jobs. It requires long-term obligations to others.)
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Post by Blonde Granny on Jul 9, 2015 18:52:27 GMT -5
I'm 70 years old, and now you're telling me I was supposed to have a life plan?
Once again, failure......
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Post by Phoenix84 on Jul 9, 2015 18:52:59 GMT -5
1. Are you superficially charming and intelligent? Intelligent, I like to think so. Charming? I don't think most people would describe me as particularly chamring. 2. Do you have delusions or other signs of irrational thinking? I'm generally very rational 3. Are you overly nervous, or do you have other neuroses? I'm generally not nervous or fearful 4. Are you reliable?
I think I'm pretty reliable. 5. Do you tell lies or say insincere things? I almost always tell the truth. 6. Do you feel remorse or shame? Not usually, since I don't think I have much to be guilty over. But I think it's asking that would you feel guilty if you did something wrong, the answer would be yes. 7. Is your behavior anti-social for no good reason? Maybe? What's a good reason? 8. Do you have poor judgment, and fail to learn from experience? I think I have pretty good judgment. And I'm very reflective, sometimes to a fault. 9. Are you pathologically egocentric, and incapable of love? I don't think I'm egocentric, and like to think I'm capable of love. 10. Do you generally lack the ability to react emotionally?
Generally I don't react outwardly to emotions like others do. 11. Do you lack insight? As stated above, I am very self reflective. 12. Are you responsive to others socially? Maybe? I guess it depends on what response you're looking for? 13. Are you a crazy party fiend? Hell no. 14. Do you make false suicide threats? No 15. Is your sex life impersonal, trivial or poorly integrated? N/A 16. Have you failed to follow a life plan? I have little trouble holding down a job, and generally am able to accomplish long term goals.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2015 19:36:23 GMT -5
I've know enough sociopaths to know I am not one. Do I have quirks, social apathy, etc? Yes, probably.
My mother was a paranoid schizophrenic (certified in three states) so I spent most of my early adult life worrying about that possibility. Schizophrenia has a strong genetic component. And my ex used to like to toss, "You're just being crazy" at me when I disagreed with him. I was somewhat afraid he was right.
When I got divorced (again, a time he told me that I was "crazy" for doing this), I did a little counseling. The counselor told me that I had passed the probable window for schizophrenia. I should quit worrying about it. I could be just normal kind of crazy like everyone else.
You aren't a sociopath, Phoenix84. I think you are probably extremely high functioning Asperger's. Emphasis should be on the "extremely high" part. My son is the same way in retrospect, but he met a girl when he was fifteen who was social enough for both of them. He has almost no social skills, but she takes care of all that.
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Post by Phoenix84 on Jul 9, 2015 19:47:12 GMT -5
From what I recall, schizophrenia usually manifests itself in early adulthood. My grandmother had it, from what I've been told, but didn't appear to pass it on to my dad or anyone else.
I have a cousin who demonstrates a lot of these sociopathic tendencies. But I'm not sure if he's really a sociopath.
I don't think really think I'm a sociopath either.
But I wonder, is sociopathy really a disorder requiring treatment? Or just a different way of "being wired?" Does this behavior necessarily lend itself to harming others?
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Post by Peace Of Mind on Jul 9, 2015 19:47:31 GMT -5
1. Are you superficially charming and intelligent? It's all natural just like my hair color. 2. Do you have delusions or other signs of irrational thinking? No. I sincerely believe I'm naturally charming, intelligent and blond. 3. Are you overly nervous, or do you have other neuroses? Look up neurotic in the Dictionary (do they still make those?) and you will see my picture. 4. Are you reliable? Very. I'm even early. Please see #3. 5. Do you tell lies or say insincere things? Yes. If your baby is fugly or that dress makes your ass look like a Mack truck I'm not telling you that especially if you are hormonal. 6. Do you feel remorse or shame? Mostly remorse. I always beat myself up over something. DH too. 7. Is your behavior anti-social for no good reason? I have very good reasons. People suck! 8. Do you have poor judgment, and fail to learn from experience? I post here with you all don't I? 9. Are you pathologically egocentric, and incapable of love? I love hard and true but only with special/good people. I have to look up pathologically egocentric but I don't think so. I've never been called that. But somebody here once called me a malignant narcissist when we disagreed on something. But she's the only one that's ever called me that. To my face/monitor. ETA: Looked it up and No. But wished I was. 10. Do you generally lack the ability to react emotionally? I'm very emotional about many/most things. 11. Do you lack insight? No. I'm very aware that I'm extra spe-chul. 12. Are you responsive to others socially? Yes. I'm a very outgoing introvert. 13. Are you a crazy party fiend? I prefer the term "fun". 14. Do you make false suicide threats? No, but I make many wishful thinking attempted murder threats. 15. Is your sex life impersonal, trivial or poorly integrated? Depends on who I'm thinking about at the time. 16. Have you failed to follow a life plan? Life plan? I fly by the seat of my pants but it works for me.
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Post by Lizard Queen on Jul 9, 2015 20:00:05 GMT -5
You aren't a sociopath, Phoenix84. I think you are probably extremely high functioning Asperger's. Emphasis should be on the "extremely high" part. My son is the same way in retrospect, but he met a girl when he was fifteen who was social enough for both of them. He has almost no social skills, but she takes care of all that.
I hope that Phoenix doesn't take this the wrong way, but I sometimes wonder whether he even has Aspergers. He posts some things on occasion that really show a deep understanding of human nature. Maybe I just don't understand Aspergers. As for the OP, now I'm thinking that the 3 serious bf's before DH were all somewhat sociopaths. . That probably doesn't show me in a good light for dating them. At least I married the right one!
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Post by msventoux on Jul 9, 2015 20:31:54 GMT -5
1. Are you superficially charming and intelligent? Not the slightest bit charming and many days I question my intelligence. 2. 2. Do you have delusions or other signs of irrational thinking? No, I'm pretty rational. 3. Are you overly nervous, or do you have other neuroses? I'm a seething mass of neuroses. But I hide it well, people comment on how calm and together I am. Which must mean I'll be going postal in 3...2...1 4. Are you reliable? Ridiculously so. 5. Do you tell lies or say insincere things? Yep. I've learned for the most part not to say what I really think when out in polite society. 6. Do you feel remorse or shame? Constantly. For no reason. 7. Is your behavior anti-social for no good reason? I'm perfectly justified in my anti-social behavior. People out there be crazy. 8. Do you have poor judgment, and fail to learn from experience? Nope, I'm far too rational and have no good stories of a misspent youth. 9. Are you pathologically egocentric, and incapable of love? Maybe. I'm pretty good at lust, but long-term commitment and love have eluded me. 10. Do you generally lack the ability to react emotionally? No, I'm a sympathetic cryer. And puker. 11. Do you lack insight? I try to maintain my obliviousness. 12. Are you responsive to others socially? Depends on who they are. 13. Are you a crazy party fiend? Nope, see #8. 14. Do you make false suicide threats? No, I always follow through on them. 15. Is your sex life impersonal, trivial or poorly integrated? See #11. I don't want to ponder what a poorly integrated sex life is. I thought if it was done right you ended up pretty integrated with another person. 16. Have you failed to follow a life plan? I still have no idea what I want to be when I grow up. Having a life plan is beyond me. Most days making it home in one piece is as far ahead as I plan.
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Post by Phoenix84 on Jul 9, 2015 21:53:22 GMT -5
You aren't a sociopath, Phoenix84. I think you are probably extremely high functioning Asperger's. Emphasis should be on the "extremely high" part. My son is the same way in retrospect, but he met a girl when he was fifteen who was social enough for both of them. He has almost no social skills, but she takes care of all that.
I hope that Phoenix doesn't take this the wrong way, but I sometimes wonder whether he even has Aspergers. He posts some things on occasion that really show a deep understanding of human nature. Maybe I just don't understand Aspergers. As for the OP, now I'm thinking that the 3 serious bf's before DH were all somewhat sociopaths. . That probably doesn't show me in a good light for dating them. At least I married the right one! You're sweet.
I spend a lot of time observing human behavior "from the outside." It grants some insights, but other times I think I'm clueless.
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Post by Bonny on Jul 9, 2015 23:12:28 GMT -5
I hope that Phoenix doesn't take this the wrong way, but I sometimes wonder whether he even has Aspergers. He posts some things on occasion that really show a deep understanding of human nature. Maybe I just don't understand Aspergers. As for the OP, now I'm thinking that the 3 serious bf's before DH were all somewhat sociopaths. . That probably doesn't show me in a good light for dating them. At least I married the right one! You're sweet.
I spend a lot of time observing human behavior "from the outside." It grants some insights, but other times I think I'm clueless.
LOL, you aren't the only one sweetheart!
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Post by zibazinski on Jul 10, 2015 7:02:44 GMT -5
Best advice I ever got from this forum was to read THE SOCIOPATH NEXT DOOR. It helped me understand my ex so much.
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Post by zibazinski on Jul 10, 2015 7:04:09 GMT -5
I hope that Phoenix doesn't take this the wrong way, but I sometimes wonder whether he even has Aspergers. He posts some things on occasion that really show a deep understanding of human nature. Maybe I just don't understand Aspergers. As for the OP, now I'm thinking that the 3 serious bf's before DH were all somewhat sociopaths. . That probably doesn't show me in a good light for dating them. At least I married the right one! You're sweet.
I spend a lot of time observing human behavior "from the outside." It grants some insights, but other times I think I'm clueless.
I've had Aspergers students who were extremely smart and intuitive. Their problem mainly seemed to be making comments with no filter.
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Post by MJ2.0 on Jul 10, 2015 8:05:37 GMT -5
You're sweet.
I spend a lot of time observing human behavior "from the outside." It grants some insights, but other times I think I'm clueless.
I've had Aspergers students who were extremely smart and intuitive. Their problem mainly seemed to be making comments with no filter. sounds like they were just assholes.
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Post by zibazinski on Jul 10, 2015 21:43:54 GMT -5
As they get older, this is probably what others will think. I always wonder if those kids end up constantly getting beat up for their "mouth!"
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2015 21:56:29 GMT -5
If I could fake being charming I would, not one of my inherent skills God, the list of what entails being a sociopath sure describes my ex husband . . . good thing I can see my neurosisies (spelling?) in my kids
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2015 0:40:49 GMT -5
Just reading through the list, I probably am. I was really worried about that, but then I saw the thread title was sociopath and not psychopath <whew>...it's good to keep you all guessing though ! What is important is that you are a high functioning sociopath, which means you only kill the really irredeemable bad guys (a la Sherlock Holmes)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2015 2:16:15 GMT -5
What is important is that you are a high functioning sociopath, which means you only kill the really irredeemable bad guys (a la Sherlock Holmes) That sounds good . I don't actually know what a sociopath is, but reading the question I identified with a lot of them...then went and got another beer and it felt all better .
I do have a disdain for the public at large, so many people are rude! So many times I see traffic merging and people get up bumper-to-bumper so the other lane can't get in. Why would you do that? Do you really think you'll get home sooner? And if that's how you act, then what's you're home life like anyway? Probably a bunch of dooshbags just like you...husband that cuts people off in traffic, wife that puts arsenic in their cheeseburgers because she's so bored, daughter that got pregnant but had an abortion in Mexico before anybody knew, and a son that hangs out on 4th avenue with a homeless sign because nobody gave him a 3,000 sq foot house when he graduated college. Hey, if that's what you're rushing home to, I'd really want to get back too!
Does that sound like a sociopath to you?
Nahh, I think you might just have turned British
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2015 4:28:00 GMT -5
1. Are you superficially charming and intelligent? No.2. 2. Do you have delusions or other signs of irrational thinking? Well, yes. Sometimes. I talk to my cats and my teddy bear. And I have fascinating arguments with myself. That explains why I had to go see a shrink in high school. My dad heard me.
3. Are you overly nervous, or do you have other neuroses? Of course I have neuroses. I am a female.4. Are you reliable? Yes. Disgustingly so. I just realized the other day that I have been in my craphole job since September and I have never called out once.
5. Do you tell lies or say insincere things? I'm married, of course I do.
6. Do you feel remorse or shame? About what? THe drinking? No. Living? Yes.7. Is your behavior anti-social for no good reason? Eh. I'm deaf. 'Nuff said.8. Do you have poor judgment, and fail to learn from experience? Sometimes you would think so but no.
9. Are you pathologically egocentric, and incapable of love? No. I love my husband, my cat and my teddy bear. Not necessarily in that order.
10. Do you generally lack the ability to react emotionally? No.11. Do you lack insight? Eh.12. Are you responsive to others socially? I hate people so I think I'll go with no.
13. Are you a crazy party fiend? No, I'm a drunk party fiend.14. Do you make false suicide threats? Yes.15. Is your sex life impersonal, trivial or poorly integrated? What sex life?16. Have you failed to follow a life plan? Abso-fuckin'-lutely!!!!
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Post by 8 Bit WWBG on Jul 11, 2015 7:26:17 GMT -5
Would a sociopath answer those questions honestly?
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Post by MJ2.0 on Jul 11, 2015 7:34:45 GMT -5
Would a sociopath answer those questions honestly? I think they might.
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Post by swamp on Jul 11, 2015 8:07:05 GMT -5
If I lack insight, how do I know I lack insight? I don't have it.
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Post by NoNamePerson on Jul 11, 2015 8:35:21 GMT -5
I'm 70 years old, and now you're telling me I was supposed to have a life plan?
Once again, failure...... I'm older than you and I say SCREW LIFE PLAN. It's a little late to redo crap. I know someone who has planned her life away and it all went to hell in a hand basket over one little blip. Kinda sad to watch
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Post by Robert not Bobby on Jul 11, 2015 15:24:53 GMT -5
Ahumm...maybe I'm a sociopath, maybe not?
I'm superficially charming and intelligent...and yes, sometimes I keep my emotions in check.
And I don't have a life plan.
I guess I didn't win did I...but that's ok.
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Post by Peace Of Mind on Jul 11, 2015 15:47:31 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure our male cat is a sociopath. He was walking around the living room meowing, so I patted the couch and he jumped up. Went to pet his head and he jerked away and gave me a pissy look. OK, won't touch you then dude. A couple minutes goes by and he starts purring and rubbing his head on my arm, so I reach over to pet him again. He meows, jumps off the couch and runs upstairs, there is a crash of china breaking as it hits the floor, he runs back downstairs and sits in the middle of the room, looks at me and...meows.
What the hell is going through your little kitty brain, dude !! My husband does that. Ahumm...maybe I'm a sociopath, maybe not? I'm superficially charming and intelligent...and yes, sometimes I keep my emotions in check. When?
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Post by milee on Jul 11, 2015 15:54:47 GMT -5
this ancient lady came walking up helping an ancienter lady along with her walker. They sat down by us, and the ancienter lady pulled out a pack of cigarettes and lit one up! How the hell are you still alive! She had to be in her 90's...I just couldn't believe that scene LoL! I think the other lady was her daughter, and she was in her 70's I'm guessing. I've just never seen smokers live long enough to be able to use a walker...it was such a surreal experience.
Smoking ages you. That mother was 54 and the daughter was 35.
Remember roommate from "There's Something About Mary"? Trust me, in Florida there are plenty of women that look like that. And they're only 35 years old.
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Post by Robert not Bobby on Jul 11, 2015 16:32:23 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure our male cat is a sociopath. He was walking around the living room meowing, so I patted the couch and he jumped up. Went to pet his head and he jerked away and gave me a pissy look. OK, won't touch you then dude. A couple minutes goes by and he starts purring and rubbing his head on my arm, so I reach over to pet him again. He meows, jumps off the couch and runs upstairs, there is a crash of china breaking as it hits the floor, he runs back downstairs and sits in the middle of the room, looks at me and...meows.
What the hell is going through your little kitty brain, dude !! My husband does that. Ahumm...maybe I'm a sociopath, maybe not? I'm superficially charming and intelligent...and yes, sometimes I keep my emotions in check. When? When it suits me (I'm not this way in real life...this feels like a game to me
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Post by Chocolate Lover on Jul 13, 2015 11:23:09 GMT -5
Just reading through the list, I probably am. I was really worried about that, but then I saw the thread title was sociopath and not psychopath <whew>...it's good to keep you all guessing though ! What is important is that you are a high functioning sociopath, which means you only kill the really irredeemable bad guys (a la Sherlock Holmes) I was hoping someone beat me to it in 2 pages.
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Post by The Captain on Jul 13, 2015 11:43:42 GMT -5
I've had Aspergers students who were extremely smart and intuitive. Their problem mainly seemed to be making comments with no filter. sounds like they were just assholes. There is a difference. Assholes know their comments will likely cause pain before they make them. Aspergers people don't realize that what they say may cause pain until they see the other person's reaction (if they even realize it). I have a relative with Aspergers. Example: When we had to have a sick pet put down they told my (then young) daughter they were sorry we had to kill our pet. Pretty harsh, eh? The person was trying to express sympathy - what would have been better was "I'm sorry your pet is gone", but the filters don't work that way.
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Post by happyhoix on Jul 13, 2015 13:47:05 GMT -5
I've heard that with some MH issues the only reason you would need treatment would be if you are unhappy with how your life is going - by the quality of your relationships, etc.
I knew a sociopath who was pretty successful, a facility manager. He did a lot of destructive things - had an affair with a co-worker when his wife was pregnant with his baby, for instance. And he would lie about who caused issues at work in order to deflect blame away from himself, even when the person he was throwing under the bus was sitting right there in the room with him - it didn't occur to them that they might resent being thrown to the wolves for a mistake HE made. He only cared about not getting blamed himself. He would linger someplace a couple years, screw things up, apply for a transfer, and relocate someplace else - he was handsome and charming enough he could get by with that for a few years, and by then it was time to relocate again.
I suppose if he ever thought about how many shitty relationships he had with his coworkers, his family, or his plethora of wives and GF's he might decide to seek some MH counseling to find out why he kept behaving the way he did, but he never struck me as the kind of person who cared how many people hated him (even within his own family) - in fact, I don't think he was really capable of any deep thinking about himself at all. He was perfectly happy exactly how he was.
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