According to "Debka"..US has more then 3000 combat troops ..

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in Iraq...there to combat ISIS with back up in Kuwait and air units in Jordan...

These are, according to the article  I will post here not for training Iraqi troops but to combat directly ISIS...concentrating on specific hit and run type actions...similar to the successful one against ISIS financial guru..he was killed.


debka.com/article/24654/Thousands-of-US-paratroops-head-for-Iraq-Tehran-braces-for-onset-of-ISIS-terror-attacks-on-cities

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They finaly woke up!
This is modern warfare. No mass invasions but guerrilla type war more or less.
You have an enemy that you can't find, you sit and wait for him to make a mistake. Much more efficient, far less expensive.

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Jun 10, 2015 13:09:03 GMT -5 deminmaine said:

I can finally see why my parents thought we'd be in Vietnam forever.

There is another article I may post on a new thread...it 's premise is the definitely possibility of a Mid East war..not Arab States ./ Israel but between Suni and Shia...Iran / Saudi..both sides thinking that it's a defensive war...and then all the Suni and Shia taking sides in the area..

If it happens then where does that leave ourselves and the  Europeon States..if you support one side..say Iraq central government as a example then it means your old Bathest party..against the Sunni..at least as it is today..and  if you support the central government , indirectly your supporting Iran today which means the Saudis..our very long term allie is upset or worse and here we are  looking like we are supporting our 50 year old enemy government..{not so much the people} Iran...

[and people actually run like  heck to become POTUS to deal with this type of stuff...?  and it's  the human race that supposedly is the superior species here.. You have to be crazy...]

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That would be a religious war and regardless what side any country out of the area would take, it will be in the wrong. So best...stay out of it!

But, but, but there is so much money to be made! 

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

We learned on September 11, 2001 that we cannot afford to allow radical islamists sanctuary anywhere on the planet.

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Jun 10, 2015 17:36:37 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

We learned on September 11, 2001 that we cannot afford to allow radical islamists sanctuary anywhere on the planet.

excepting here:

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Jun 10, 2015 18:09:42 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Jun 10, 2015 17:36:37 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

We learned on September 11, 2001 that we cannot afford to allow radical islamists sanctuary anywhere on the planet.

excepting here:

Sorry missing it...what am I looking at..?

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Bye the way..the article of what we may be looking at  ..shortly...regarding shia and Sunni confrontation....


www.courant.com/nation-world/ct-sunni-shia-war-20150610-story.html

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Jun 10, 2015 17:36:37 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

We learned on September 11, 2001 that we cannot afford to allow radical islamists sanctuary anywhere on the planet.

After an almost 200,000 troops from which over 5000 paid full measure and God knows how many crippled or scared for life, 13 years and $10 trillion dollars(?) do we still hang onto that?
Using that logic we should also go after the radical Christians or any other group that becomes radical or is radical.
Do I think that we should hunt them and take them one by one on site? Hell, yes!
But we have to get smart about it and their present move seems to show a bit of that.
Thats how it should've been approached from the get go.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Jun 10, 2015 18:26:48 GMT -5 mroped said:

Jun 10, 2015 17:36:37 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

We learned on September 11, 2001 that we cannot afford to allow radical islamists sanctuary anywhere on the planet.

After an almost 200,000 troops from which over 5000 paid full measure and God knows how many crippled or scared for life, 13 years and $10 trillion dollars(?) do we still hang onto that?
Using that logic we should also go after the radical Christians or any other group that becomes radical or is radical.
Do I think that we should hunt them and take them one by one on site? Hell, yes!
But we have to get smart about it and their present move seems to show a bit of that.
Thats how it should've been approached from the get go.

Radical Christians do not pose an existential threat to the national security of the United States of America, or our citizens.  Radical muslims, do.  They have billions of dollars, numerous state sponsors, and would nuke us a second after getting a bomb.  I'm not a fan of nation-building, but the idea that we don't need a comprehensive, no bullshit, we win - they lose strategy for dealing with the threat from radical muslims and their war-mongering state sponsors is naive.

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Jun 10, 2015 20:34:45 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Jun 10, 2015 18:26:48 GMT -5 mroped said:

After an almost 200,000 troops from which over 5000 paid full measure and God knows how many crippled or scared for life, 13 years and $10 trillion dollars(?) do we still hang onto that?
Using that logic we should also go after the radical Christians or any other group that becomes radical or is radical.
Do I think that we should hunt them and take them one by one on site? Hell, yes!
But we have to get smart about it and their present move seems to show a bit of that.
Thats how it should've been approached from the get go.

Radical Christians do not pose an existential threat to the national security of the United States of America, or our citizens.  Radical muslims, do.  They have billions of dollars, numerous state sponsors, and would nuke us a second after getting a bomb.  I'm not a fan of nation-building, but the idea that we don't need a comprehensive, no bullshit, we win - they lose strategy for dealing with the threat from radical muslims and their war-mongering state sponsors is naive.

Really? But let's not forget Timothy McVeigh, Eric Rudolph, Shelley Shannon, Scott Roeder and others.

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Those don't count! They are Christian so is a different...ummm, whatever is that fits! 

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And since we are talking about radical groups how about those that want secession or declare "independence" or sovereignty!
Ah, wait! They have the right to do that under the Constitution or something like that.

News flash: so are the other people of the world and we, The US have no right whatsoever to tell them how to live their lives. 
When you go hunting for bear, you don't burn the woods. You go to his den and wait quietly!