Baltimore Prosecutor Seeks To Bury Gray Autopsy Report

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Inching closer to the inevitable acquittal...

www.foxnews.com/us/2015/06/04/baltimore-state-attorney-seeks-to-block-release-freddie-gray-autopsy/?intcmp=trending

BALTIMORE – Baltimore State's Attorney Marilyn Mosby plans to seek a protective order that would block the release of Freddie Gray's autopsy report and other "sensitive" documents as she prosecutes the six police officers involved in his arrest.

Mosby told The Baltimore Sun that prosecutors "have a duty to ensure a fair and impartial process for all parties involved" and "will not be baited into litigating this case through the media."

But an attorney for one of the officers said the effort shows that "there is something in that autopsy report that they are trying to hide."

"Mrs. Mosby is the one who did an announcement discussing what she said the evidence was in a nationally televised speech," said Ivan Bates, who represents Sgt. Alicia White. "Now that it is time to turn over the evidence, to ask for a protective order is beyond disingenuous.

"It's as if she wants to do everything to make sure our clients do not get a fair trial."

Mosby gave a full-on, public, political speech even going so far as to call the prosecution of the police part of a "cause". Now, she's wants to cover up actual evidence from the public eye?  It's fairly obvious there's something in the autopsy that isn't going to help the "cause".

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I have to agree that she gave up the right to keep the case out of the media when she used the media from go. I am more worried that the reports will show no possible way the damage was caused other than abuse & then massive riots will ensue. But her statement of why she wants information protected is total carp.

There better not be an acquittal on this one. I didn't agree with Michael Brown becoming the poster boy for excessive force (wrong case to hang their hat on), but there have been several excessive force/over-reactive force issues lately. Cases where the police have been caught blatantly lying to cover themselves.

I have family that is on the police force, and have had the pleasure of interaction with local officers that are clearly power tripping. I think there is a huge problem with the officers, their training and their psychological make-ups. A significantly higher percentage (based on my personal interactions) appear to be hyper, young guns looking to escalate situations; combined with officers that are just sick of all the shit criminals getting put back on the street time and time again.

Our entire criminal system is broken down and causing some of these issues (not all). Some are just psycho cops overreacting, disallowing time in a tense situation for their target to even understand what they are being yelled at for. Again, Ferguson doesn't even meet any of these criteria but became a focal point it didn't deserve to be.

The issue of why unarmed young black men keep getting shot/abused/subjected to excessive force is very real.

[billisonboard]

Bates said the protective order would allow only prosecutors and defense attorneys to see the documents, ... (from link in the OP)

Doesn't seem unreasonable to save it for the trial as long as the defense has the info well ahead of time. I can wait.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Jun 7, 2015 8:31:12 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Bates said the protective order would allow only prosecutors and defense attorneys to see the documents, ... (from link in the OP)

Doesn't seem unreasonable to save it for the trial as long as the defense has the info well ahead of time. I can wait.

Here again, she took the case directly to the limelight. She made it about the media, about celebrity, and about the "cause" whatever that means, when her job is prosecutor. Now, she's not happy with all the evidence getting media scrutiny? Makes her case look very weak.

[billisonboard]

Jun 7, 2015 18:36:20 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

... Makes her case look very weak.

It does to some. But strong damming evidence released to the public now could taint the jury pool.

Hey, I got an idea. Why don't we hold a public proceeding at some point in the future where all the evidence is revealed and discussed? We could call it a "trial".

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Jun 7, 2015 21:54:09 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Jun 7, 2015 18:36:20 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

... Makes her case look very weak.

It does to some. But strong damming evidence released to the public now could taint the jury pool.

Hey, I got an idea. Why don't we hold a public proceeding at some point in the future where all the evidence is revealed and discussed? We could call it a "trial".

The jury pool would be tainted by actual evidence from the medical examiner, but would not be tainted by the prosecutor's politically and racially motivated speech?  The problem is that she made the opening argument in the public "trial".

[billisonboard]

Jun 10, 2015 21:47:01 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Jun 7, 2015 21:54:09 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

It does to some. But strong damming evidence released to the public now could taint the jury pool.

Hey, I got an idea. Why don't we hold a public proceeding at some point in the future where all the evidence is revealed and discussed? We could call it a "trial".

The jury pool would be tainted by actual evidence from the medical examiner, but would not be tainted by the prosecutor's politically and racially motivated speech?  The problem is that she made the opening argument in the public "trial".

Litigating the evidence in the media is where the problem would develop.

[happyhoix]

Jun 7, 2015 18:36:20 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Jun 7, 2015 8:31:12 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Bates said the protective order would allow only prosecutors and defense attorneys to see the documents, ... (from link in the OP)

Doesn't seem unreasonable to save it for the trial as long as the defense has the info well ahead of time. I can wait.

Here again, she took the case directly to the limelight. She made it about the media, about celebrity, and about the "cause" whatever that means, when her job is prosecutor. Now, she's not happy with all the evidence getting media scrutiny? Makes her case look very weak.

The prosecutor making a statement that she would bring a case against these officers won't bias the jury pool. That's what prosecutors do, we expect them to make that kind of statement.

What could bias the jury pool is to release details of the autopsy and have that information debated ad infinitum in the media, with talking heads who know nothing about the case blathering on about what the results mean. Think about the zoo that surrounded the Simpson case.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Baloney.  This prosecutor gave a full blown political speech in which she virtually made a promise to "young people" among others that there'd be a conviction.  She shouldn't simply be removed from this case, but disbarred.  She has so backed herself into a corner, that she can no longer function objectively as an officer of the court. This case makes or breaks her career, and her political ambitions.  She's toast. She knows she's toast, and now she's desperately trying to cover up anything that will destroy her case, and ruin her life. Shoulda thought about that before she opened her trap.

[billisonboard]

Jun 11, 2015 9:20:12 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Baloney.  This prosecutor gave a full blown political speech in which she virtually made a promise to "young people" among others that there'd be a conviction.  She shouldn't simply be removed from this case, but disbarred.  She has so backed herself into a corner, that she can no longer function objectively as an officer of the court. This case makes or breaks her career, and her political ambitions.  She's toast. She knows she's toast, and now she's desperately trying to cover up anything that will destroy her case, and ruin her life. Shoulda thought about that before she opened her trap.

“This is one of the most brutal, heinous crimes that I have seen in a long, long time,” Suffolk County District Attorney Thomas Spota said at a news conference following the suspects’ arraignments. “This poor young woman is so lucky that, quite frankly, that she is alive. These are vicious young men, vicious young men and what they did to her was absolutely terrible.” rightwingnews.com/top-news/three-ms-13-gang-members-snatch-16-year-old-in-long-island-and-rape-her-on-golf-course/?utm_source=cotr&utm_medium=cotr&utm_campaign=cotr

This is from a link in a thread you started. This is what prosecutors say. Nothing particularly outstanding in her press conference.

The truth of the strength or weakness of the evidence will come out. If it is weak and there is no conviction, her having delayed its release until trial will not save her career.

[OldCoyote]

Paul, why are you defending the police so much in this case,   Grey did not break his own neck!

The suppression of evidence, how about the a picture of the spring assisted knife the police say was illegal. Spring assisted meaning switchblade!

[billisonboard]

Jun 11, 2015 10:20:43 GMT -5 OldCoyote said:

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The suppression of evidence, how about the a picture of the spring assisted knife the police say was illegal. Spring assisted meaning switchblade!

No matter how much the media screams, evidence is not suppressed because it is not released to the public pretrial. At trial, the prosecutor will have to show the knife and the jury will determine whether it was legal or illegal to possess under Baltimore law.