George W. Bush tops Obama in new favorability poll

[kent]

And this is from CNN not Fox......hmmmm

www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/george-w-bush-tops-obama-in-new-favorability-poll/vi-BBkDefm

[Value Buy]

You beat me to it!

Seems the President is dipping in several categories.
Clinton will now have to start distancing herself from the Administration.

[Value Buy]

Second terms are usually hard on the Presidents.
Obviously, this President is no different than previous ones.

[djAdvocate]

Jun 3, 2015 14:06:05 GMT -5 kent said:

And this is from CNN not Fox......hmmmm

www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/george-w-bush-tops-obama-in-new-favorability-poll/vi-BBkDefm

public presidential polls of this kind are meaningless.  Harding was the worst president in the last century.  how did he survey?

[djAdvocate]

incidentally, what CNN is saying is not really true.  most surveys show a mild trend upward for Obama for the last 11 months:

www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_obama_job_approval-1044.html

[EVT1]

If favorability matters to anyone:

www.gallup.com/poll/1618/favorability-people-news.aspx

I like Bush a whole lot more now that he is out of office as well 

[djAdvocate]

i don't think anyone involved in this discussion cares about facts, actually.  but there they are, for those that do.

[Value Buy]

dj, it is what it is

[djAdvocate]

Jun 3, 2015 16:15:45 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

dj, it is what it is

yes, it is......BULLSHIT. 

this is consistent for me, btw.  most people are not in any position to judge how good or bad a president is, as is readily apparent by a cursory review of this board. 

[Value Buy]

Jun 3, 2015 17:37:49 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Jun 3, 2015 16:15:45 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

dj, it is what it is

yes, it is......BULLSHIT. 

this is consistent for me, btw.  most people are not in any position to judge how good or bad a president is, as is readily apparent by a cursory review of this board. 

Yes, I am fully aware only a select few are in any position to make an allowable comment on the board, without being ridiculed.

[djAdvocate]

Jun 3, 2015 18:15:04 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Jun 3, 2015 17:37:49 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

yes, it is......BULLSHIT. 

this is consistent for me, btw.  most people are not in any position to judge how good or bad a president is, as is readily apparent by a cursory review of this board. 

Yes, I am fully aware only a select few are in any position to make an allowable comment on the board, without being ridiculed.

did you feel ridiculed?  don't.  i like and respect you.  but that poll is rubbish.

[djAdvocate]

also, i should add one thing.

the OP is also rubbish.

the question asked was not whether you have a favorable opinion of Obama.  most people still think he is a decent fellow, when asked.
the question was "how is Obama handling his job?".

that is NOT the question asked of Bush.  they asked for their opinion of him- presumably as a person.  and again, most people think he is a decent fellow.  it does NOT ask whether he was a good president, whether he handled his job well, or whether he made good decisions, which would have been far more relevant in terms of comparing them.

but i digress.  every year that passes makes PUBLIC opinion of Bush less relevant.  in 40 years, he won't even show up in many surveys, just as Nixon and Carter don't now.  but historians will still be comparing presidents, and when they do, Bush will fall to the bottom of the tank.

[NoNamePerson]

In the grand scheme of things does a friggin poll mean diddly squat. People sure get their panties all in a wad over them. They have no bearing on whether or not I get up in the morning and carry on with my plans one bit.

But I admit that there are some who probably live and die by the POLLS. Heck maybe that's their reason for just climbing out of bed in the morning - POLLs, Polls what are they saying today    I must plan my life around the latest. 

[djAdvocate]

Jun 3, 2015 20:13:13 GMT -5 NoNamePerson said:

In the grand scheme of things does a friggin poll mean diddly squat. People sure get their panties all in a wad over them. They have no bearing on whether or not I get up in the morning and carry on with my plans one bit.

But I admit that there are some who probably live and die by the POLLS. Heck maybe that's their reason for just climbing out of bed in the morning - POLLs, Polls what are they saying today    I must plan my life around the latest. 

i love polls.  but they are snapshots in time.  and the further the polled person gets from the event that is being polled, the less relevant their opinion is.  which is why MOST polls focus on what people are thinking and feeling NOW.

[NoNamePerson]

Take the same poll 1 day later by different people and it will change. I guess that would be considered the here and now. Of course the here and now changes minute by minute so what's the point?

But I will admit that in all my years on this earth I have never met a living soul that has been a part of a poll - maybe they all just forgot to telll me they were polled though so I guess that is a moot issue 


ETA: I'm curious as to whether or not a poll has any bearing on your life or thinking - just wondering? I could use educating in my old age about this stuff 

[djAdvocate]

Jun 3, 2015 20:27:10 GMT -5 NoNamePerson said:

Take the same poll 1 day later by different people and it will change. I guess that would be considered the here and now. Of course the here and now changes minute by minute so what's the point?

But I will admit that in all my years on this earth I have never met a living soul that has been a part of a poll - maybe they all just forgot to telll me they were polled though so I guess that is a moot issue 


ETA: I'm curious as to whether or not a poll has any bearing on your life or thinking - just wondering? I could use educating in my old age about this stuff 

polls are not nearly that vacuous.  they are actually quite scientifically done, generally speaking, and they are RARELY outside of the published statistical error, with the exception of Rasmussen and a few really poor private polls, which are outside of statistical error over half the time. 

[marvholly]

Wonder if this is not an effect of the grass WAS greener AND some memory loss. Bush still does not track very high IMHO. Not sure about Obama yet. Need a bit of distance.

[djAdvocate]

Jun 4, 2015 5:26:40 GMT -5 marvholly said:

Wonder if this is not an effect of the grass WAS greener AND some memory loss. Bush still does not track very high IMHO. Not sure about Obama yet. Need a bit of distance.

of course.  but as i said, the thread title is not correct.