EVT1
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Post by EVT1 on Jun 2, 2015 0:31:52 GMT -5
news.yahoo.com/north-carolina-senate-overrides-governors-veto-marriage-opt-022558899.html
The Republican-led state Senate reached the three-fifths majority needed to override McCrory’s veto in a 32-16 vote. The legislation now goes back to the Republican-controlled state House of Representatives, which passed it in February by a margin wide enough to override the veto.
The bill allows magistrates and other officials to refuse to perform marriages or issue marriage certificates by citing a “sincerely held religious objection.”
Senate leader Phil Berger said the bill struck a balance between the legal ruling that allowed same-sex marriages to begin in the state last year and the rights of state employees to exercise their religion.
“If the federal courts say they will be performed, they will be performed,” Berger said before Monday's vote. “But if someone takes a job, they don’t park their First Amendment rights at the door. They are entitled to exercise those rights.”
Really? I can refuse to do my job over the first amendment? How many marriage licenses are going to be refused because the petitioners have divorces in their past -rofl-Sanctity of marriage and all.....
I just can't wait for Roy Moore to get tossed out of office again- the future is here asshole- and you are not part of it.
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weltschmerz
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Post by weltschmerz on Jun 2, 2015 1:50:14 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2015 13:13:22 GMT -5
chuches get to refuse to perform marriage ceremonies because of “sincerely held religious objection.” I think this is the way that society will eventually try to force religious institiutions to accept gay belief. Ministers, performing marriage ceremonies are acting for the government just the same as magistrates. For the record I think that a person acting for the state doing a state function should have to put aside religious beliefs if they conflict with their job. Because of that I believe churches should not be allowed to perform legal marriages, but only religious ones.
I think individuals have different set of rights from people acting as representatives of government.
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weltschmerz
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Post by weltschmerz on Jun 7, 2015 16:21:03 GMT -5
Allow same sex marriage? I think we should MAKE them get married! They should suffer like the rest of us! "No, you can't go to the Pride parade. There are too many of your exes there! Besides, you have to mow the lawn and the gutters need cleaning. Then we're going to my mother's for supper."
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AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jun 7, 2015 18:46:35 GMT -5
Was Clinton far-right when he signed DOMA, stating, ""I have long opposed governmental recognition of same-gender marriages, and this legislation is consistent with that position.”?
Was Hillary "far right" when she stated in 2000, "“Marriage has got historic, religious and moral content that goes back to the beginning of time, and I think a marriage is as a marriage has always been, between a man and a woman,” when she was carpet-bagging for the Senate seat in the far right, red-state haven of New York?
Was Obama far right when he opposed gay marriage in 2008- or did Obama simply willfully mislead the voting public for his own political advantage?
The public has shifted on gay marriage, and you can hardly blame politicians for shifting with them. But let's not call it "far right" to oppose gay marriage when it was a pretty mainstream view of politicians in both parties as late as 2013.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jun 7, 2015 22:50:55 GMT -5
Was Clinton far-right when he signed DOMA, stating, ""I have long opposed governmental recognition of same-gender marriages, and this legislation is consistent with that position.”? nope. but he certainly wasn't far left.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2015 22:55:51 GMT -5
Clinton wasn't "far right"... but he most assuredly was "far wrong"!
LOL
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