Am losing all my TV friends..Schieffer from CBS now retiring

[deziloooooo]

I know...it's a sign of getting old...Your favorite movie stars retire or pass away..your most comfortable TV personalities ..especially the news ones ..retire too and you just don't want to get involved with the new ones...I didn't watch one of the Letterman ending shows..no surprise there..never watched his regular ones either..his list of 10 was boring to me and so many of his guest stars..especially the musical guests ilicited a response such as .. .."who...? to me..Jay Leno too..nada interest and as far as the new replacements...forget it..

I still go occasionally to "Youtube Carson shows"...there I am comfortable with..


www.courant.com/nation-world/la-et-ct-schieffer-finale-20150531-story.html

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

I heard about this and my reaction was, "Bob who?". Talk about irrelevant. You need some new friends.

[djAdvocate]

unkind, but i laughed anyway.

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May 31, 2015 17:01:34 GMT -5 deziloooooo said:

I know...it's a sign of getting old...Your favorite movie stars retire or pass away..your most comfortable TV personalities ..especially the news ones ..retire too and you just don't want to get involved with the new ones...I didn't watch one of the Letterman ending shows..no surprise there..never watched his regular ones either..his list of 10 was boring to me and so many of his guest stars..especially the musical guests ilicited a response such as .. .."who...? to me..Jay Leno too..nada interest and as far as the new replacements...forget it..

I still go occasionally to "Youtube Carson shows"...there I am comfortable with..


www.courant.com/nation-world/la-et-ct-schieffer-finale-20150531-story.html

Not trying to be mean here, but was Bob the guy that got in trouble with the "swift  boat" story a while back ?  Then lost the anchor position because of it ?  I 've still seen him on air at times, but not all that much.

[djAdvocate]

Jun 5, 2015 10:42:09 GMT -5 @jma23 said:

May 31, 2015 17:01:34 GMT -5 deziloooooo said:

I know...it's a sign of getting old...Your favorite movie stars retire or pass away..your most comfortable TV personalities ..especially the news ones ..retire too and you just don't want to get involved with the new ones...I didn't watch one of the Letterman ending shows..no surprise there..never watched his regular ones either..his list of 10 was boring to me and so many of his guest stars..especially the musical guests ilicited a response such as .. .."who...? to me..Jay Leno too..nada interest and as far as the new replacements...forget it..

I still go occasionally to "Youtube Carson shows"...there I am comfortable with..


www.courant.com/nation-world/la-et-ct-schieffer-finale-20150531-story.html

Not trying to be mean here, but was Bob the guy that got in trouble with the "swift  boat" story a while back ?  Then lost the anchor position because of it ?  I 've still seen him on air at times, but not all that much.

not sure what you are talking about here, D23.  what swift boat story?

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Jun 5, 2015 10:46:56 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Jun 5, 2015 10:42:09 GMT -5 @jma23 said:

Not trying to be mean here, but was Bob the guy that got in trouble with the "swift  boat" story a while back ?  Then lost the anchor position because of it ?  I 've still seen him on air at times, but not all that much.

not sure what you are talking about here, D23.  what swift boat story?

Found it and answered my own question  www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCAQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Farchive.mrc.org%2Fcampaign%2F04%2Fswiftboat.asp&ei=OsVxVbWGD8aQyATM5YGIDw&usg=AFQjCNE_nF9FjhPXvqzqDm7iSbufxJxe4A&bvm=bv.95039771,d.aWw  Schieffer's  part is a little bit down the page.

[djAdvocate]

Jun 5, 2015 10:52:30 GMT -5 @jma23 said:

Jun 5, 2015 10:46:56 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

not sure what you are talking about here, D23.  what swift boat story?

Found it and answered my own question  www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCAQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Farchive.mrc.org%2Fcampaign%2F04%2Fswiftboat.asp&ei=OsVxVbWGD8aQyATM5YGIDw&usg=AFQjCNE_nF9FjhPXvqzqDm7iSbufxJxe4A&bvm=bv.95039771,d.aWw  Schieffer's  part is a little bit down the page.

oh, you mean that Scheiffer was exactly right?  yeah.  that sure sucked. 

edit: i would ask why the media didn't property report on EITHER story, but that would pretty much debunk the liberal bias paradigm that everyone around here seems to believe in, so i suspect that nobody has the ears for it.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Jun 5, 2015 10:42:09 GMT -5 @jma23 said:

May 31, 2015 17:01:34 GMT -5 deziloooooo said:

I know...it's a sign of getting old...Your favorite movie stars retire or pass away..your most comfortable TV personalities ..especially the news ones ..retire too and you just don't want to get involved with the new ones...I didn't watch one of the Letterman ending shows..no surprise there..never watched his regular ones either..his list of 10 was boring to me and so many of his guest stars..especially the musical guests ilicited a response such as .. .."who...? to me..Jay Leno too..nada interest and as far as the new replacements...forget it..

I still go occasionally to "Youtube Carson shows"...there I am comfortable with..


www.courant.com/nation-world/la-et-ct-schieffer-finale-20150531-story.html

Not trying to be mean here, but was Bob the guy that got in trouble with the "swift  boat" story a while back ?  Then lost the anchor position because of it ?  I 've still seen him on air at times, but not all that much.

See BS has been a general disaster area where old liberal dinosaurs go to die. Schieffer is part of a network that of late is probably best known for the fraudulent "Bush went AWOL" story in which he attempted to torpedo the Bush re-election campaign with forged military documents. That is not to say that Schieffer isn't a stand-alone left wing laugh a minute:

Schieffer penned a book in 1989 titled “The Acting President: Ronald Reagan and the Supporting Players Who Helped Him Create the Illusion That Held America Spellbound.” which 23 years later, Schieffer finally acknowledged "wasn't entirely true".

Schieffer suggested that the $500 million dollar waste of taxpayer money on the bankrupt Solyndra was a "silly and petty" campaign "tactic".

Schieffer lambasted AZ Gov. Jan Brewer when she had the audacity to defend herself against the rather un-presidential hissy fit 'ol "No Drama Obama" had (one of many) over her book.  

And it's not like it can be denied that Bobby was neck deep in Rathergate- here's a handy archive for you.

I could go on, and on, and on, and on, and on.
 
The mainstream news has been irrelevant since somewhere between 1987 and 1998.

[mmhmm]

I hear you, deziloooooo. I always enjoyed Bob Shieffer. Seemed like a good guy. While I may not have always agreed with him, I enjoyed his presentations. It's sad to see those you came to feel as though you knew fade from sight, to be replaced by others with whom you have difficulty relating. It's part, I suppose, of getting darned old! 

[djAdvocate]

Jun 6, 2015 10:34:28 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Jun 5, 2015 10:42:09 GMT -5 @jma23 said:

Not trying to be mean here, but was Bob the guy that got in trouble with the "swift  boat" story a while back ?  Then lost the anchor position because of it ?  I 've still seen him on air at times, but not all that much.

See BS has been a general disaster area where old liberal dinosaurs go to die. Schieffer is part of a network that of late is probably best known for the fraudulent "Bush went AWOL" story in which he attempted to torpedo the Bush re-election campaign with forged military documents. That is not to say that Schieffer isn't a stand-alone left wing laugh a minute:

you are mistaken.  Scheiffer didn't do that.  Rather did.  and the military never denied the content of the documents, only the authenticity of them.  in other words, what the documents actually said was correct, but they were transcriptions, not originals.  and yes, that was a terrible mistake, but it doesn't undermine the AWOL case, which was, in fact, correct.

 
The mainstream news has been irrelevant since somewhere between 1987 and 1998.

i agree with your last statement entirely.  if the MSM were functioning properly, they would have questioned the Swift Boat heresay a lot sooner.  their failure to do so got us another 4 years of the worst president in nine decades.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Jun 6, 2015 11:29:47 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Jun 6, 2015 10:34:28 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

See BS has been a general disaster area where old liberal dinosaurs go to die. Schieffer is part of a network that of late is probably best known for the fraudulent "Bush went AWOL" story in which he attempted to torpedo the Bush re-election campaign with forged military documents. That is not to say that Schieffer isn't a stand-alone left wing laugh a minute:

you are mistaken.  Scheiffer didn't do that.  Rather did.  and the military never denied the content of the documents, only the authenticity of them.  in other words, what the documents actually said was correct, but they were transcriptions, not originals.  and yes, that was a terrible mistake, but it doesn't undermine the AWOL case, which was, in fact, correct.

 
The mainstream news has been irrelevant since somewhere between 1987 and 1998.

i agree with your last statement entirely.  if the MSM were functioning properly, they would have questioned the Swift Boat heresay a lot sooner.  their failure to do so got us another 4 years of the worst president in nine decades.

Actually, a discussion of Swift Boat Veterans For Truth is rather apropos. It almost perfectly marks the transition from the old media to the new.  The Vietnam war, and the liberal mythology surrounding it was the highwater mark for the liberal media. With the help of the old liberal media, dirtbags like John Kerry were elevated to heroes while soldiers that served honorably were made out to be drug addled baby killers.  John Kerry himself participated in the slandering and libeling of our Vietnam Veterans directly, and veterans that served with him outed him as the sack of shit he is.  When John Kerry had the audacity to make his service in Vietnam the cornerstone of his presidential campaign during the 2004 election, the wounds he had inflicted on millions of Vietnam veterans were re-opened. Many could no longer be silent while a man who had repeated the propaganda of America's enemies rose to the position of Commander-in-Chief.

Welcome to the new media, bitches.

[djAdvocate]

Jun 6, 2015 19:21:04 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Jun 6, 2015 11:29:47 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

i agree with your last statement entirely.  if the MSM were functioning properly, they would have questioned the Swift Boat heresay a lot sooner.  their failure to do so got us another 4 years of the worst president in nine decades.

Actually, a discussion of Swift Boat Veterans For Truth is rather apropos. It almost perfectly marks the transition from the old media to the new.  The Vietnam war, and the liberal mythology surrounding it was the highwater mark for the liberal media.

i agree with this completely, as well.  during that era, we had a vibrant, anti-establishment media consisting of literally hundreds of major print and broadcast divisions.  this is sometimes called "the second golden age of muckraking", and was indeed the high water mark for liberal journalism.  now, what we have, is essentially major corporations helping sell products to rich people, with predictable results.

With the help of the old liberal media, dirtbags like John Kerry were elevated to heroes while soldiers that served honorably were made out to be drug addled baby killers.  John Kerry himself participated in the slandering and libeling of our Vietnam Veterans directly, and veterans that served with him outed him as the sack of shit he is.  When John Kerry had the audacity to make his service in Vietnam the cornerstone of his presidential campaign during the 2004 election, the wounds he had inflicted on millions of Vietnam veterans were re-opened. Many could no longer be silent while a man who had repeated the propaganda of America's enemies rose to the position of Commander-in-Chief.

Welcome to the new media, bitches.

define "new media".

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Honestly, dj, I don't know why I bother- I seriously don't understand why I should have to. My post answers your question quite well.  This time around on the topic of Vietnam, the veterans had a voice.  See BS, Rather, Schieffer and Company didn't get to bloviate through the whole election re-writing the history of John Kerry's rather dishonorable history.  For once, the left got skunked.  New media:  Talk radio, Fox News, the conservative blogosphere, et al- the old guard no longer has a lock on information. They don't get to ignore stories they regard as non-news (harmful to Democrats), or select stories, or spin stories which help liberals, and/or harm conservatives / Republicans.

[djAdvocate]

Jun 7, 2015 19:28:06 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Honestly, dj, I don't know why I bother- I seriously don't understand why I should have to. My post answers your question quite well.  This time around on the topic of Vietnam, the veterans had a voice.  See BS, Rather, Schieffer and Company didn't get to bloviate through the whole election re-writing the history of John Kerry's rather dishonorable history.  For once, the left got skunked.  New media:  Talk radio, Fox News, the conservative blogosphere, et al- the old guard no longer has a lock on information. They don't get to ignore stories they regard as non-news (harmful to Democrats), or select stories, or spin stories which help liberals, and/or harm conservatives / Republicans.

no, they do just the opposite, which makes them just as detestable, imo.

i prefer fringe media, like subscriber media, and foreign press.  but whatever winds your clock.  thanks for answering the question, Paul.

[deziloooooo]

Lets get this straight...if you read comments made here by some it seems all vets who served incountry are in agreement against Kerry...That is not so...not at all...

I don't feel that way...many of my friends at my VFW chapter feel the same..granted not all ..but most and folks who volunteer with me at the Veterans hospital , the same...Actually it is not a big topic of conversation at all..hasn't been that way for years..but it has been discussed and for most of us the feeling is he served..he did his job...was in harms way..did pull out that Green B out of harms way..exposing himself..did go into the bank after the bad guy...did get some kind of hits on his body...Actually after the full disclosure of the Swift Boat folks propaganda was known and why and who ..most of the feeling was against them...

That he used some of that in his campaigns...in some ways all of the politicals did...am thinking of a few Senators..one from Hawai...served with the 442 nd in Italy...a few others too..Hell , Kennedy and his PT 109 story..the coconut message..swimming a wounded sailor to safety..Harry Truman..Captain in WW1, artillery.....story of bringing enemy under fire and wiping them ...his feelings afterwards...  Bush #1..torpedo bomber pilot..youngest pilot in the war or something like that..shot down after a bombing run..picked up by submarine..movie footage of that..lost sailors in his plane...all war experiences used politically after wards..accepted...nothing wrong  at least by most of us...

I worked with a fellow Vet..wore his Bronze Star lapel pin as politicians wear the American flag today..more power to him...I just didn't feel the same for myself but had no problem with his wearing it...What used to P him off was how many didn't know what it represented...being asked all the time what it represented..LOL

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

The bottom line is that what bothers Mr. Schieffer and a host of others in the old media is that they're doubted and questioned when they are paid attention to- which is rare these days; and their bias is routinely pointed out, and their stories corrected.

[djAdvocate]

Jun 8, 2015 0:13:10 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

The bottom line is that what bothers Mr. Schieffer and a host of others in the old media is that they're doubted and questioned when they are paid attention to- which is rare these days; and their bias is routinely pointed out, and their stories corrected.

i think noticeable bias is quite rare in journalism.  it is quite common in commentary, however, and without apology.

[wyouser]

May 31, 2015 17:01:34 GMT -5 deziloooooo said:

I know...it's a sign of getting old...Your favorite movie stars retire or pass away..your most comfortable TV personalities ..especially the news ones ..retire too and you just don't want to get involved with the new ones...I didn't watch one of the Letterman ending shows..no surprise there..never watched his regular ones either..his list of 10 was boring to me and so many of his guest stars..especially the musical guests ilicited a response such as .. .."who...? to me..Jay Leno too..nada interest and as far as the new replacements...forget it..

I still go occasionally to "Youtube Carson shows"...there I am comfortable with..


www.courant.com/nation-world/la-et-ct-schieffer-finale-20150531-story.html

Gee Dezi, where does that put me (as an aging Baby Boomer) I lost heart when we lost Cronkite, Huntley and Brinkly, and Howard K Smith!

[EVT1]

I feel it when I lose my rock n roll friends- of course a lot of them left early.

I watched Good Night and Good Luck last week- way before my time- but I admire the old guard. Who the hell do we have now?

I like Bill Moyers- octogenarian and still bringing it.

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Jun 5, 2015 13:49:21 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Jun 5, 2015 10:52:30 GMT -5 @jma23 said:

Found it and answered my own question  www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCAQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Farchive.mrc.org%2Fcampaign%2F04%2Fswiftboat.asp&ei=OsVxVbWGD8aQyATM5YGIDw&usg=AFQjCNE_nF9FjhPXvqzqDm7iSbufxJxe4A&bvm=bv.95039771,d.aWw  Schieffer's  part is a little bit down the page.

oh, you mean that Scheiffer was exactly right?  yeah.  that sure sucked. 

edit: i would ask why the media didn't property report on EITHER story, but that would pretty much debunk the liberal bias paradigm that everyone around here seems to believe in, so i suspect that nobody has the ears for it.

I wasn't concerned with whether he was right or wrong.  It's just what happened and (CBS?) management decided to take him off the anchor position.  I watched him for years and had no great bones to pick.  I would think he must of run afoul of some type of management directive/rule. 

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

I like watching the old guard in the media fade away. Warms my heart.