Chocolate Lover
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Post by Chocolate Lover on Jan 12, 2015 16:09:25 GMT -5
I don't want to attend a monster church either. I've had enough organized religion to last me a lifetime TYVM. I can believe on my own time without someone telling me I'm doing it wrong.
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Post by NoNamePerson on Jan 12, 2015 17:12:26 GMT -5
I don't want to attend a monster church either. I've had enough organized religion to last me a lifetime TYVM. I can believe on my own time without someone telling me I'm doing it wrong. AMEN!!!!!!! I also have a hard time with all the "pray tv preachers" too
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Post by Chocolate Lover on Jan 12, 2015 17:15:28 GMT -5
I don't want to attend a monster church either. I've had enough organized religion to last me a lifetime TYVM. I can believe on my own time without someone telling me I'm doing it wrong. AMEN!!!!!!! I also have a hard time with all the "pray tv preachers" too When I was a kid my best friend's mom loved watching that crap. My friend called the one blonde lady with big curly hair (not Tammy Faye) Bubbles.
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NoNamePerson
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Post by NoNamePerson on Jan 12, 2015 17:18:09 GMT -5
I had a friend who thought Jimmy Swaggert was the best thing since sliced bread and lord help you if you didn't agree. I thought it was like watching Saturday Morning Cartoons only on Sunday
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Chocolate Lover
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Post by Chocolate Lover on Jan 12, 2015 17:21:01 GMT -5
Yeah, Lord help you if you didn't behave her way. She was like the other members of the church I got dragged to though. I went to Catholic school for 4 years and liked the kid's mass way better than anything I ever did at my church. Once I got too big to physically drag to church I quit going. I had enough "moms" to keep me on the straight and narrow, I didn't need a dozen other busybodies telling me how evil I was.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2015 19:22:37 GMT -5
Yes he's wealthy as are some other pastors. Does being wealthy mean he must absolutely be taking advantage of people?
John Osteen encouraged Joel to preach for many years, but he declined, preferring to work behind the scenes until January 17, 1999, when he accepted his father's suggestion and he preached his first sermon. John Osteen died six days later of a heart attack. Two weeks later, Joel began preachi ng regularly and, later that year, was installed as the new Senior Pastor of Lakewood Church on October 3, 1999.[10] Under Joel Osteen, Lakewood’s attendance grew from 5,000 to 43,000.[6] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joel_Osteen
Based on his congregation size alone, if he was paid at the level the minister at my church is being paid(factoring in congregation size), he'd make $24 Million a year. Not including the books. (Yes she has a generous package.) I've read some of his books, listened to some of his services. He is not a send me money and get healed kind of guy like old style bad televangelists.
In this case... yes. Priests/Pastors/Reverends aren't supposed to be in it for the money... they are supposed to be in it so they can spread the word, Their pay should be "enough to comfortably sustain them in a reasonable fashion, equivalent to that of the most average family in their flock" (That's a paraphrase of what a former Pastor of mine said in a sermon once, when he was taking on the televangelists, and the evils of doing it for the money instead of doing it for the glory of God).
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