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Post by The Captain on Dec 2, 2014 16:19:30 GMT -5
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Post by Jaguar on Dec 2, 2014 16:22:09 GMT -5
That's really nice of him.
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Post by ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ on Dec 2, 2014 16:32:48 GMT -5
It's a very generous thing he did - as far as the gifts are concerned - but one has to wonder if the brides married for love, or if they were arranged marriages - possibly young women being married-off to strangers or near-strangers, who might also have been a lot older than them as well.
Arranged marriages are still fairly common there.
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Post by The Captain on Dec 2, 2014 16:50:10 GMT -5
Arranged marriages are not always a bad thing. I worked for several years with a lady who was a CPA and still went through with the marriage her parents arranged voluntarily.
Her thought was that given the US divorce rate, she had much more faith in her parents choosing a husband to make her happy then the process we had here. I met her husband a few times and from what I could tell, he adored her.
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Post by Jaguar on Dec 2, 2014 16:52:20 GMT -5
That's their culture, that's their thing. They can live with it, so I don't see why if this is arranged marriage or not why that's even an issue.
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Post by Tennesseer on Dec 2, 2014 16:54:28 GMT -5
Nice guy. And I would imagine the marriages were arranged.
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Post by NancysSummerSip on Dec 2, 2014 17:14:57 GMT -5
That's their culture, that's their thing. They can live with it, so I don't see why if this is arranged marriage or not why that's even an issue.
And regardless of who is paying, the marriages would likely have been arranged matches, anyway. As the Captain pointed out, even in the U.S., forward-thinking, college-educated, hardworking Indian men and women will often still go the arranged marriage route, involving either their parents (even if it means returning to their parents in India for a time, to get the arranging done) or even a broker specializing in Indian marriage arrangements, if their is no family to help.
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Post by Tennesseer on Dec 2, 2014 18:03:33 GMT -5
That's their culture, that's their thing. They can live with it, so I don't see why if this is arranged marriage or not why that's even an issue.
And regardless of who is paying, the marriages would likely have been arranged matches, anyway. As the Captain pointed out, even in the U.S., forward-thinking, college-educated, hardworking Indian men and women will often still go the arranged marriage route, involving either their parents (even if it means returning to their parents in India for a time, to get the arranging done) or even a broker specializing in Indian marriage arrangements, if their is no family to help. The poster Tiki was born, raised and lived in Bangladesh until the time of her arranged marriage. Her husband and MIL were already here in the States prior to their marriage.
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Post by toomuchreality on Dec 3, 2014 5:21:38 GMT -5
And regardless of who is paying, the marriages would likely have been arranged matches, anyway. As the Captain pointed out, even in the U.S., forward-thinking, college-educated, hardworking Indian men and women will often still go the arranged marriage route, involving either their parents (even if it means returning to their parents in India for a time, to get the arranging done) or even a broker specializing in Indian marriage arrangements, if their is no family to help. The poster Tiki was born, raised and lived in Bangladesh until the time of her arranged marriage. Her husband and MIL were already here in the States prior to their marriage. Wow. That's an interesting/cool thing to learn about one of the members here! @tiki- I'm just curious, please don't answer if you aren't comfy.... In arranged marriages, does the couple generally know anything about each other, prior to the wedding? I wish the brides (and the donor) much happiness!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2014 7:39:30 GMT -5
The poster Tiki was born, raised and lived in Bangladesh until the time of her arranged marriage. Her husband and MIL were already here in the States prior to their marriage. Wow. That's an interesting/cool thing to learn about one of the members here! @tiki- I'm just curious, please don't answer if you aren't comfy.... In arranged marriages, does the couple generally know anything about each other, prior to the wedding? I wish the brides (and the donor) much happiness! I found out about him whats his profession and location and such but I didn't meet him before 2 weeks until our wedding.
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Post by NancysSummerSip on Dec 3, 2014 9:41:18 GMT -5
Among Orthodox Jews, many marriages are still the arranged kind. You don't see it in Reform or Conservative Judaism, but even in the U.S., Orthodox Jewish parents still use a professional matchmaker (shadchan) but will also take recommendations from friends and family as to a prospective match. Dating is allowed, but it is for the purpose of the relationship either going forward into marriage, or not. There is a lot of information exchanged as to each partner's health, financial status, level of education, character, intelligence and religious observance. When two young Orthodox Jews marry, they may not have seen much of each other, but they tend to know a lot about each other.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2014 11:47:14 GMT -5
Among Orthodox Jews, many marriages are still the arranged kind. You don't see it in Reform or Conservative Judaism, but even in the U.S., Orthodox Jewish parents still use a professional matchmaker (shadchan) but will also take recommendations from friends and family as to a prospective match. Dating is allowed, but it is for the purpose of the relationship either going forward into marriage, or not. There is a lot of information exchanged as to each partner's health, financial status, level of education, character, intelligence and religious observance. When two young Orthodox Jews marry, they may not have seen much of each other, but they tend to know a lot about each other. Is is similar like ours except no dating. For us it is required for spouse to be same caste and same sect is best but not required. Other family must be well reputed. After all a priest will read jyotisa to find out your gonna match also whats best date for wedding.
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Post by swasat on Dec 3, 2014 11:50:15 GMT -5
Among Orthodox Jews, many marriages are still the arranged kind. You don't see it in Reform or Conservative Judaism, but even in the U.S., Orthodox Jewish parents still use a professional matchmaker (shadchan) but will also take recommendations from friends and family as to a prospective match. Dating is allowed, but it is for the purpose of the relationship either going forward into marriage, or not. There is a lot of information exchanged as to each partner's health, financial status, level of education, character, intelligence and religious observance. When two young Orthodox Jews marry, they may not have seen much of each other, but they tend to know a lot about each other. Is is similar like ours except no dating. For us it is required for spouse to be same caste and same sect is best but not required. Other family must be well reputed. After all a priest will read jyotisa to find out your gonna match also whats best date for wedding. I work with a TON of Indians. Seriously, TONS. Both from the north and south of India. I am great friends with many. Seems to me arranged marriages are more like "arranged dating", specially in the north of India. If you don't suit you can always back out easily. The overall arranged marriage setup is more relaxed in north India. The south of India is way more conservative and they seem to have arranged marriages set up more like you describe.
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Post by NancysSummerSip on Dec 3, 2014 12:49:05 GMT -5
Among Orthodox Jews, many marriages are still the arranged kind. You don't see it in Reform or Conservative Judaism, but even in the U.S., Orthodox Jewish parents still use a professional matchmaker (shadchan) but will also take recommendations from friends and family as to a prospective match. Dating is allowed, but it is for the purpose of the relationship either going forward into marriage, or not. There is a lot of information exchanged as to each partner's health, financial status, level of education, character, intelligence and religious observance. When two young Orthodox Jews marry, they may not have seen much of each other, but they tend to know a lot about each other. Is is similar like ours except no dating. For us it is required for spouse to be same caste and same sect is best but not required. Other family must be well reputed. After all a priest will read jyotisa to find out your gonna match also whats best date for wedding. "Dating" for Orthodox Jews is nothing like what we think of as dating. There are chaperones, of course. No kissing, touching and needless to say, no premarital sex. No drinking at a bar (though Jews of all sects do consume alcohol; it's not forbidden in religious settings and celebrations), movies or dancing. It's mostly family-type settings, with the families of the involved pair getting together and getting to know each other. Sounds kind of clinical, but marriage is viewed as serious business with the prospect of a lifelong commitment, procreation and the continued building of a religious community.
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