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Post by Angel! on Nov 4, 2014 17:39:19 GMT -5
it's disturbing that so few Democrats are making this case. the GOP sure as hell is not going to make it for them. Before the ACA poor people went uninsured because they could not afford to buy health insurance. After the ACA, the poor get fined by the IRS for not buying health insurance they can't afford, and the premiums they could not afford pre ACA are now 78% higher on average. This is why the middle class who were previously uninsured are upset by ObamaCare, because now they're uninsured and being fined. Oh, and the government has prevented insurance companies from posting 2015 rates before today's election. www.healthcare.gov/fees-exemptions/fee-for-not-being-covered/ (reliable enough source for you?) Not an apples to apples comparison & ignoring the subsidies which make the premiums affordable.
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Post by djAdvocate on Nov 4, 2014 18:15:40 GMT -5
Before the ACA poor people went uninsured because they could not afford to buy health insurance. After the ACA, the poor get fined by the IRS for not buying health insurance they can't afford, and the premiums they could not afford pre ACA are now 78% higher on average. This is why the middle class who were previously uninsured are upset by ObamaCare, because now they're uninsured and being fined. Oh, and the government has prevented insurance companies from posting 2015 rates before today's election. www.healthcare.gov/fees-exemptions/fee-for-not-being-covered/ (reliable enough source for you?) Not an apples to apples comparison & ignoring the subsidies which make the premiums affordable. Paul and others seem to prefer that the insured bear 100% of the cost of the uninsured, rather than some smaller amount.
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Post by Tennesseer on Nov 4, 2014 18:31:51 GMT -5
Just saw the sign on the bottom of CNN: "First Exit Polls: 27:10" My train of thought: 27:10 what? what does that even mean? which race? seriously this makes no sense, this is the worst news coverage I've ever seen. why does that sign say 26:50 now? Huh? Oh... It's a countdown clock... Maybe that was the remaining time left before your local 3:10 To Yuma train departed?
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Post by thyme4change on Nov 4, 2014 18:42:24 GMT -5
Thank you Thyme!!!
I voted this morning. My choice of candidates sucked. Except for the local county level judges, I happily voted for them.
Sounds like we have the same choices. I don't so much vote for anyone, as much as I vote against someone else.
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Post by thyme4change on Nov 4, 2014 18:43:01 GMT -5
And - I'm even happier that this is not a photoshopped image. It always brings a smile to my face.
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Post by djAdvocate on Nov 4, 2014 18:43:47 GMT -5
i vote for the people that are most easily manipulated by money, so they do my bidding.
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Post by sesfw on Nov 4, 2014 20:01:28 GMT -5
Polls close in AZ at 7pm ..... one more hour, then the start of 24 hours of who did what right or wrong.
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Post by chiver78 on Nov 4, 2014 20:14:52 GMT -5
just tuned in to CNN. MA polls have just closed. no way I'll still be awake for the end of things, unless it's a landslide one way or another.
what's all this now about one of the FL governor candidates asking for extended voting hours b/c of issues with voter access? they were talking about it as I turned the channel, and I feel like I'm missing some info.
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Post by dondub on Nov 4, 2014 21:06:46 GMT -5
Yeah, the wealthy white people were being denied access.
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Post by thyme4change on Nov 4, 2014 21:14:27 GMT -5
Yeah, the wealthy white people were being denied access. Who else votes?
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Post by djAdvocate on Nov 4, 2014 21:32:02 GMT -5
i think LaPage is going down in Maine. with Cutler coming in below 10%, i think that means that LaPage loses by 3-5%. and good f*&king riddance, i say. next up on my hit list is Whackadoodle Ernst. polls are still open. there is still time to beat her.
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Post by djAdvocate on Nov 4, 2014 21:32:53 GMT -5
no close states have been called yet, but Cotton has won AR, as expected.
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Post by djAdvocate on Nov 4, 2014 21:34:34 GMT -5
pre-election wrapup: GOP favored to win majority.here are the FOUR races to watch: KS: Orman is favored slightly to win this one. he has run an excellent campaign, and should prevail over 14? term congressman Roberts, who has run a very poor but well financed campaign. what makes me convinced this is over is the polling done with FEWER undecided votes. any time a poll is conducted that shows 10% or less undecided in the past 3 weeks, Orman is leading or tied. the only two polls that show otherwise have 18% and 22% undecided, respectively. favourite: IndependentGA: Nunn has done a good job of getting back into this race, but is trailing or tied in the last NINE polls in that state. if there is a runoff here, which seems likely (there is an independent in the race that is expected to garner 3%, which is more than the anticipated margin of victory), Perdue will win the first round, and likely the second. favourite: RepublicanAK: transplant Sullivan is leading or tied in five of the last seven polls, here- but only one poll is of decent quality. this is normal for Alaska, and this is probably the most uncertain race, but on the basis of POLLS ALONE, the GOP is favored here. favourite: RepublicanIA: Whackadoodle Ernst has had a steady lead in this race, but all but two polls in the last month have been within MOE. unfortunately for Braley, both of the two were high quality polls: Quinnipac and the DeMoines Register. favourite: Republicanpredicted outcome: 52+1 caucus with the GOP.other states to watch: Colorado and Louisiana are also within "striking range" for Democrats. NC is in "striking range" for Republicans. this will be my last predictive post on this thread until after the election, as the polling data is coming in too late to be digested at this juncture. here was my last call. Orman and Hagan are both up right now. Nunn is trailing in GA, but none of the urban precincts are reporting.
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Post by thyme4change on Nov 4, 2014 21:36:46 GMT -5
The local news posted an update to the results. Every race is 0 to 0. Why did they bother to pretend they updated it?
Every election I hope for a hot and heavy race for the state mine inspector - but that guy has run unopposed for as long as I can remember.
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Post by djAdvocate on Nov 4, 2014 21:38:11 GMT -5
Rob Maness is polling really well. it looks like LA is heading for a runoff.
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Post by djAdvocate on Nov 4, 2014 21:40:42 GMT -5
Swafford is polling really poorly in Georgia, which is good news for Perdue, and might possibly avoid a runoff.
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Post by djAdvocate on Nov 4, 2014 21:41:32 GMT -5
The local news posted an update to the results. Every race is 0 to 0. Why did they bother to pretend they updated it? Every election I hope for a hot and heavy race for the state mine inspector - but that guy has run unopposed for as long as I can remember. which state, thyme?
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Post by thyme4change on Nov 4, 2014 21:42:20 GMT -5
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Post by thyme4change on Nov 4, 2014 21:47:27 GMT -5
Another update with absolutely no information. I want that guy's job.
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Post by djAdvocate on Nov 4, 2014 21:49:47 GMT -5
i am not watching Arizona this year. no Senate races.
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Post by djAdvocate on Nov 4, 2014 21:55:55 GMT -5
NH is being called for Shaheen.
congratulations to Scott Brown, who, having lost to three women in three tries, has raised the bar for feminists everywhere.
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Post by djAdvocate on Nov 4, 2014 21:58:13 GMT -5
McConnell is being called in KY.
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Post by djAdvocate on Nov 4, 2014 21:59:59 GMT -5
Gary Peters won in MI, as expected
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Post by djAdvocate on Nov 4, 2014 22:10:58 GMT -5
VIRGINIA!!!!
here is one that i didn't see coming. the Republicans are LEADING THIS ONE with 96% of the vote in!!!!
TOO CLOSE TO CALL!!!
ok, so the GOP is officially doing better than expected in at least one state. i put this one at 95% probability that Democrats would hold it.
WOW!!!!!
keep your eyes on this one!
edit: i just reviewed this precinct by precinct, and i think that Warner wins this one, but by less than 5,000 votes. i think this one is going to RECOUNT. AMAZING!!!!! this one is truly surprising.
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Post by djAdvocate on Nov 4, 2014 22:30:30 GMT -5
the GOP is also polling about 1-3% better than expected in NC. that one is too close to call. i expect Nunn to lose GA, as of right now. no runoff.
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Post by djAdvocate on Nov 4, 2014 22:35:32 GMT -5
Cory Garner won Colorado
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Post by djAdvocate on Nov 4, 2014 22:53:07 GMT -5
NH is very close as well. i think Shaheen wins by less than 10,000 votes.
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Post by EVT1 on Nov 4, 2014 23:02:01 GMT -5
I love it- 4 billion and the best it could by is a photo finish
Would love it even more if the senate came down to LA and they had toss in another billion on a runoff.
No wave election here- although I expect to hear different tomorrow.
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Post by djAdvocate on Nov 4, 2014 23:11:14 GMT -5
nah, i still think the GOP will wrap it up tonight- especially if KS goes the way it LOOKS like it is going to go. that one would be another huge surprise. the only state that has gone better for Democrats than expected so far was LA, where they will lose by less than 2%, but it only went better because the Libertarian got about 2x as many votes as expected, and drained them off from the frontrunner. so far, this night has gone far worse for Democrats than expected. perhaps they might have done better campaigning with Obama.
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Post by djAdvocate on Nov 4, 2014 23:14:49 GMT -5
i think Warner is set in Virginia. i think Hagan is in real trouble in NC, and it looks like ORMAN is in trouble in KS.
edit: update = Kansas called for Roberts. i am REALLY shocked by this one. not sure what happened to Orman, there. so, we have our first upset of the evening, but Orman promised to caucus with the majority, which is pretty clearly going to be the GOP, so the Democrats didn't really lose this one. NC would be another story, and based on how NH and VA went, i think that Democrats are going to lose it.
update on LA: it looks like Landreau might actually win it, but it is going to runoff.
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