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Post by milee on Jul 5, 2014 13:43:31 GMT -5
Her behavior would be fine as long as she didn't assume her kids were gifted? One could be sympathetic to the challenges so long as she didn't presume to have gifted children? My reaction isn't to the gifted children claim, my reaction is to her melodramatic description of every situation and her unsupported assertions that she's been deserted.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2014 13:49:14 GMT -5
Yeah, she sucks. Or at least should suck it up. Just cause. Some of his 6 yr old drawings published in Scientific American as part of a university study on precocity and gifted young artists.
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Post by milee on Jul 5, 2014 13:55:37 GMT -5
Not seeing how his drawings have anything to do with whether or not his mom is a drama queen or whether the entire world has turned its back on them?
Also not seeing anyone but Oped saying the mom "sucks" or is a "bitch" or should "suck it up"? Heck, other than the kid being described as active and having some odd habits, it's unclear exactly what she's being told to "suck up" exactly...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2014 13:59:38 GMT -5
I'm sorry, the drama queen should stop it with her melodramatic descriptions and offer us up some real proof of why she feels isolated and vulnerable and exhausted.... Did I get it right that time... I said the drawings were just cause...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2014 14:02:16 GMT -5
As far as one of your earlier posts, she pretty much said "I did what worked, what was good, what made quiet."
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Post by billisonboard on Jul 5, 2014 14:05:31 GMT -5
I perceived the link to be a literary piece of creative writing; a poem abstracted from reality and not reality itself.
That having been said, I was enjoying the ride of the read until wonder kid #2 appeared and I thought it went over the top with the arrival of #3.
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Post by milee on Jul 5, 2014 14:05:57 GMT -5
Is it not possible that she feels isolated, vulnerable and exhausted and is also a drama queen?
Or is it possible she is causing some of her own isolation?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2014 14:13:43 GMT -5
Yes, and I think its great when we as moms and women start out with how the other person is defective and doing it wrong and that maybe if they changed that their situation would get better... That certainly helps with the feelings of isolation.
bills. Luc was a much easier baby than roc. Reed is in many ways even more challenging than roc was. Thus the essay now I think. She's really writing about reed and how she should have known better...
Luc is quietest of the three. But on art day I had a Georgia okeefe activity with oil pastels. Only one project I saw used color, covered space and in any way actually resembled o'keefe. It was 6 yr old Luc's. They are just very artistic children.
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Post by swamp on Jul 5, 2014 14:18:25 GMT -5
But if hire writing about being isolated (or whatever the issue,is) shouldn't you expect comments on how to fix the issue?
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Post by milee on Jul 5, 2014 14:27:19 GMT -5
Yes, and I think its great when we as moms and women start out with how the other person is defective and doing it wrong and that maybe if they changed that their situation would get better... That certainly helps with the feelings of isolation. You're the one making the assumptions here. You're assuming I started out thinking she's defective or wrong. It's also you that are being sexist making assumptions about me simply because I'm a mom and a woman.
I'm just reacting to what the author wrote in the article.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2014 14:31:19 GMT -5
Stop being a melodramatic drama queen who is raising kids who won't be able to socialize.
You find that helpful? You find that somehow inclusive? Welcoming? Or just more isolating?
I think her kids are gifted. I don't even think that's the point though. I think she's a mom who often feels woefully unprepared and I'll equipped for the tasks at hand and who is willing to say, I'm doing this, im doing it because i think its important, im doing the best I can, but I often don't know what or why and I feel alone...
Idk. I think it's a common mom feeling. Unfortunately I think the reactions have been common too.
Maybe an island is better.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2014 14:31:52 GMT -5
Yes, and I think its great when we as moms and women start out with how the other person is defective and doing it wrong and that maybe if they changed that their situation would get better... That certainly helps with the feelings of isolation. You're the one making the assumptions here. You're assuming I started out thinking she's defective or wrong. It's also you that are being sexist making assumptions about me simply because I'm a mom and a woman.
I'm just reacting to what the author wrote in the article.
Did you read your first post?
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Post by milee on Jul 5, 2014 14:34:04 GMT -5
You're the one making the assumptions here. You're assuming I started out thinking she's defective or wrong. It's also you that are being sexist making assumptions about me simply because I'm a mom and a woman.
I'm just reacting to what the author wrote in the article.
Did you read your first post? Yes. It's a reaction to reading the article. That the author wrote. Her own words.
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Post by swamp on Jul 5, 2014 14:34:38 GMT -5
Stop being a melodramatic drama queen who is raising kids who won't be able to socialize. You find that helpful? You find that somehow inclusive? Welcoming? Or just more isolating? I think her kids are gifted. I don't even think that's the point though. I think she's a mom who often feels woefully unprepared and I'll equipped for the tasks at hand and who is willing to say, I'm doing this, im doing it because i think its important, im doing the best I can, but I often don't know what or why and I feel alone... Idk. I think it's a common mom feeling. Unfortunately I think the reactions have been common too. Maybe an island is better. We all feel woefully unprepared and I'll equipped.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2014 14:36:43 GMT -5
Which was why I posted it. To me it shows that we all feel isolated at times, Ill prepared, faking it till we make it... And illustrated small ways to respect and validate children's world.
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Post by milee on Jul 5, 2014 14:38:49 GMT -5
Stop being a melodramatic drama queen who is raising kids who won't be able to socialize. You find that helpful? You find that somehow inclusive? Welcoming? Or just more isolating? Where the heck did I say that? I said she sounds like a Drama Queen, but never gave her any instructions such as telling her to stop being one. I also never said her kids won't be able to socialize.
You're assuming an attack. I was giving my reactions and comments on her writing.
And why is it my job to be inclusive or welcoming to her? I have no idea if she's even interested in interacting - that's not apparent from the article, so why would you even think she wants to be included? Her actions in the article seem designed to keep her - and her children - isolated.
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Post by milee on Jul 5, 2014 14:44:15 GMT -5
Wow, your friend Amanda sounds like a Drama Queen.
Years ago, DH and I read an article on how parents who believe their child is "The Most Holy Vessel of Self-Esteem" are raising children who have no hope of integrating into society in the future. We still sometimes joke about certain parents and children we encounter, that they're "Holy Vessels". Amanda's parenting appears to be a good example of this concept. No doubt her baby was difficult and it's really tough to raise a tough kid, but yikes... the concept that somehow the tough kid characteristics are proof of peerless genius that must be catered to 24/7 and around whom life must be structured is frighteningly self-deluded. There has to be a way to find some middle ground of getting her son the intellectual stimulation and emotional support he needs without creating a fantasy world around him.
Her son is smart and her son is active and her son may even have special developmental needs. Hopefully she can find a way to honor and support those things and also help him develop the tools he will need to associate with other people, support himself and also have social ties in the community. Here's my first post. No instructions to stop being melodramatic or accusations that her kids won't be able to socialize...
Again, reaction to what she herself wrote. Her writing does not put her in a sympathetic light.
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