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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2014 13:28:26 GMT -5
And family members stated he had asked them about how to cash it in. www.nbcsandiego.com/news/national-international/265851491.htmlI can't imagine killing an enemy for 27K. But your own kid? I have a hard time grasping that there could be someone that sick out there. I really do hope it's not true and it does come to be an accident, but it's not looking good. on that score - I don't think there will ever be certainty at all. I just can't see this as all being circumstantial. Looking up hot car deaths - and the specific temp needed. visiting "child-free" webstuff. asking about cashing in on the life insurance? If I had just accidentally killed my own child through my own fault entirely - I'd likely need sedation to not kill myself or poke my eyes out, etc. This is another thing that bugs me. I was watching court footage of the Mom while eyewitnesses were describing her son after being pulled from the car and she wasn't even crying. I know everyone reacts differently, and it doesn't necessarily mean anything, but how you can sit there with a stoic face when they're talking about your dead toddler boggles my mind.
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Post by milee on Jul 5, 2014 13:48:32 GMT -5
This is another thing that bugs me. I was watching court footage of the Mom while eyewitnesses were describing her son after being pulled from the car and she wasn't even crying. I know everyone reacts differently, and it doesn't necessarily mean anything, but how you can sit there with a stoic face when they're talking about your dead toddler boggles my mind. she was also quoted immediately afterwards saying that she was not mad at him. If I wasn't suicidal - I'd be homicidal. While that lack of emotion isn't typical and might - in combination with other things - make her look suspicious, she might just be very, very private. Although I share a lot of personal details here (it's my valued outlet and the anonymity helps), I would do just about anything to avoid ever crying in public or publicly badmouthing my spouse, no matter how bad things were. So she may just be very private, which can come across as unemotional.
Not defending her, since I don't have enough info, just throwing out the possibility of an alternate explanation for those particular reactions.
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Post by mollyc on Jul 15, 2014 3:24:45 GMT -5
It stayed 33o Celsius into the evening today. I stopped at the store to grab a couple of things and left DD (13 next month) and Mama Bear (her dog) in the car. Then we drove to McDonald's because DD wanted cheap ice cream. She asked if she could go in because the drive-thru lane was busy and it would be cooler inside. While I was parking, I thought of this thread and its possibilities of me having a stroke, there being a robbery, a car running into us or Mama Bear antagonizing a moose and it trashing the car. As she was leaving DD asked if I wanted anything. I said, "no thanks, bye, love you".
After she gave me her WTF look, she asked if I was planning on ditching and making her walk home. It was just too hard to explain.
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Jul 15, 2014 8:50:13 GMT -5
The judging has gone both ways in this thread - both towards moms/parents who make the decision to leave their kids in the car AND toward those who say they would call the cops. Judgment hasn't gone just one way. Seems like a lot of defensiveness on both sides. Have your opinion, own it and be adult about it. Maybe we should have a poll and end this once and for all. Are you: A) A crappy parent who endangers their children, or B) A nosy, judgmental bitch who should mind her/his own business. There seems to be no middle ground, so I'm thinking a poll would solve it Moonbeam? Unfortunately, doing polls right now is difficult as we have to disable another plug-in to do so. Virgil is working on it and said he should have a fix in by the end of the month. We'd actually need option C) Both A and B.
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Post by Sam_2.0 on Jul 15, 2014 12:55:53 GMT -5
she was also quoted immediately afterwards saying that she was not mad at him. If I wasn't suicidal - I'd be homicidal. While that lack of emotion isn't typical and might - in combination with other things - make her look suspicious, she might just be very, very private. Although I share a lot of personal details here (it's my valued outlet and the anonymity helps), I would do just about anything to avoid ever crying in public or publicly badmouthing my spouse, no matter how bad things were. So she may just be very private, which can come across as unemotional.
Not defending her, since I don't have enough info, just throwing out the possibility of an alternate explanation for those particular reactions.
My initial reaction to things, especially highly emotional situations, is to completely shut down. Not cry, not much talking, just trying to take it all in. She may be the same way. But some of her statements have been odd - saying that her DH must have left the kid in the car was her first response to finding out he wasn't at daycare? BTW - shouldn't daycares have a policy like schools? If a kid is not there within 30 minutes of the usual time they call one or both parents to see if the kid will be in that day. Seems like a fairly simple process that would probably help save some of these accidents (true accidents) from happening.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2014 13:24:53 GMT -5
While that lack of emotion isn't typical and might - in combination with other things - make her look suspicious, she might just be very, very private. Although I share a lot of personal details here (it's my valued outlet and the anonymity helps), I would do just about anything to avoid ever crying in public or publicly badmouthing my spouse, no matter how bad things were. So she may just be very private, which can come across as unemotional.
Not defending her, since I don't have enough info, just throwing out the possibility of an alternate explanation for those particular reactions.
My initial reaction to things, especially highly emotional situations, is to completely shut down. Not cry, not much talking, just trying to take it all in. She may be the same way. But some of her statements have been odd - saying that her DH must have left the kid in the car was her first response to finding out he wasn't at daycare? BTW - shouldn't daycares have a policy like schools? If a kid is not there within 30 minutes of the usual time they call one or both parents to see if the kid will be in that day. Seems like a fairly simple process that would probably help save some of these accidents (true accidents) from happening. My son goes to an in-home daycare and there is no way she wouldn't be texting me wondering where he was if I didn't drop him off. I suppose for the big centers the relationship with the parents is probably different and then a lot more kids.
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Jul 15, 2014 13:35:20 GMT -5
My initial reaction to things, especially highly emotional situations, is to completely shut down. Not cry, not much talking, just trying to take it all in. She may be the same way. But some of her statements have been odd - saying that her DH must have left the kid in the car was her first response to finding out he wasn't at daycare? BTW - shouldn't daycares have a policy like schools? If a kid is not there within 30 minutes of the usual time they call one or both parents to see if the kid will be in that day. Seems like a fairly simple process that would probably help save some of these accidents (true accidents) from happening. My son goes to an in-home daycare and there is no way she wouldn't be texting me wondering where he was if I didn't drop him off. I suppose for the big centers the relationship with the parents is probably different and then a lot more kids. It very much depends on who's working and the priority they place on it. Our former dcp director and her staff would call after about 30 minutes. So I got in the habit of calling them when we were going to be late. New director and her staff don't call to check. I can admit, I'll be glad to be done with them in fall. They're perfectly nice, competent people but I'm not in synch with them. And if we'd interviewed wit them, I may have kept on interviewing. We had a complete staffing turnover roughly 1.5 years ago.
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