so what would you do if facing this situation?

[NastyWoman]

I honestly don't knw.  As some said in the comments section would killing you in cold blood even be a crime under these circumstances?

news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/judge-tells-living-man-that-he%E2%80%99s-still-legally-dead-201043615.html

[sesfw]

I don't know.  The ex is in a bad spot also  Hopefully SS will waive the funds paid to the kids and she will feel free to testify on his behalf.

[mmhmm]

That's really wild, Joss!  I haven't a clue what I'd do.  The man spent a number of years behaving completely irresponsibly, but he's trying to get back on track.  On the other hand, his wife received his SS thinking he was dead.  It's not fair to her to expect her to return all that money because he was an irresponsible turkey.  I guess the judge has complied with the law, which is what he must do.  Since the guy can't get a job without an SS number, I suppose he'll have to get another one.  Just a really strange case.

[ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ]

I would think if he could prove his identity, his SS# would have to be reinstated.

Yes, his life was a train wreck - he was an alcoholic and abandoned his family - basically disappearing. He should have come forward (5 yrs ago?) when his mother? informed him of his "death" - and gotten things straightened out then. But he didn't at the time - again, probably due to his addiction.

He's since gone through rehab and has his life back and wanting to work - but due to his wife declaring him dead, he "technically" is.

I would think if he could prove his identity with other identification, his SS# should be reinstated. If it was the wife who declared him dead, she should probably have to reimburse some (if not all) of the death benefits.

[Peace Of Mind]

He wasted his life any way so I think the wife should be able to kill him so she can keep the money. 

[Deleted]

Disappearing man should pay back the $26K in SS benefits. It sounds like he was not actually able to prove his identity.

26+ years later he shows up?  Public stoning for being a douchecanoe?

POM for judge!!!!!

[Shooby]

If a court declared him legally dead, then he was presumed to be dead in the eyes of the law.  So his ex should not have to pay back money she collected because the law said he was dead.

[The Captain]

Oct 10, 2013 2:54:31 GMT -5 @rockit said:

Disappearing man should pay back the $26K in SS benefits. It sounds like he was not actually able to prove his
identity.

26+ years later he shows up?  Public stoning for being a douchecanoe?

POM for judge!!!!!

Point of clarity - douchcanoe owed his wife $26K at the time he disappeared.   I don't know how much she got in survivors benefits but take that 26K, plus waiting for 7-8 years to be able to declare the deadbeat dead, she wasn't getting any type of support (unless she got public aid) for at least 10 years or more.  

I agree with you the guy should pay the ex all of the back child support owed, but that's not going to happen.

[Wisconsin Beth]

How long do they hold a SS before making it available again? 

[973beachbum]

Oct 10, 2013 6:38:04 GMT -5 The Captain said:

Oct 10, 2013 2:54:31 GMT -5 @rockit said:

Disappearing man should pay back the $26K in SS benefits. It sounds like he was not actually able to prove his
identity.

26+ years later he shows up?  Public stoning for being a douchecanoe?

POM for judge!!!!!

Point of clarity - douchcanoe owed his wife $26K at the time he disappeared.   I don't know how much she got in survivors benefits but take that 26K, plus waiting for 7-8 years to be able to declare the deadbeat dead, she wasn't getting any type of support (unless she got public aid) for at least 10 years or more.  

I agree with you the guy should pay the ex all of the back child support owed, but that's not going to happen.

Can he even get a job to do that? Without an SS number I would think he couldn't.

Ss declared my gandmother dead in the 80's.  It wasn't a court ordered thing just SS and medicare.  They stopped her SS checks and medicare wouldn't pay anything on account of her being dead and all.   They said they had seen an Obit for her with her name in the paper so they declared her dead to them from that even though they had no evidence that this person with the same name who lived in a town my grand mother had never lived in was actually her.

I don't remember how long it took to fix but it was at least a year and she wasn't actually declared dead by a judge like this man.

[Deleted]

Maybe Canada will take him! 

[whoisjohngalt]

Oct 10, 2013 11:21:16 GMT -5 973beachbum said:

Oct 10, 2013 6:38:04 GMT -5 The Captain said:

Point of clarity - douchcanoe owed his wife $26K at the time he disappeared.   I don't know how much she got in survivors benefits but take that 26K, plus waiting for 7-8 years to be able to declare the deadbeat dead, she wasn't getting any type of support (unless she got public aid) for at least 10 years or more.  

I agree with you the guy should pay the ex all of the back child support owed, but that's not going to happen.

Can he even get a job to do that? Without an SS number I would think he couldn't.

that's the least of his problems, illegals get jobs without SS all the time.

I think as long as he can get a job, he is golden since he doesn't have to pay taxes or sign up for ACA

[wyouser]

Just let him continue to be dead.  DOJ would probably file a lawsuit if some state wanted to make him get an ID to prove who he is. That would violate one of his rights not?  And "WHO" needs a SS number to work in the USA??  What kind of  quaint antiquated idea is that  anyway?  Just leave him officially dead..dont rock the boat for the family.  And , just for the record, Did you know, a certified copy of a death certificate DOES NOT necessarily prove to our SS administration that you are dead.  I know personally a widow here who went through hell with them trying to comply with rules getting her social security adjusted just to her after her husband died. 

[Sum Dum Gai]

Can the wife be charged with murder if she offs his sorry ass? I really want to know. It could have serious implications in case of zombie apocalypse.

[mollyanna58]

Oct 10, 2013 12:30:57 GMT -5 Sum Dum Gai said:

Can the wife be charged with murder if she offs his sorry ass? I really want to know. It could have serious implications in case of zombie apocalypse.

If someone shoots him, they could probably be charged with desecrating a corpse

[Sam_2.0]

Oct 10, 2013 12:42:37 GMT -5 mollyanna58 said:

Oct 10, 2013 12:30:57 GMT -5 Sum Dum Gai said:

Can the wife be charged with murder if she offs his sorry ass? I really want to know. It could have serious implications in case of zombie apocalypse.

If someone shoots him, they could probably be charged with desecrating a corpse

There go his hopes of ever getting a date. Unless they are into necrophilia.

[Deleted]

"Operator? Hello? I think my ex-husband is dead!"

"Calm down, Ma'am. The first thing we need to do is make sure he is dead -"

BANG! BANG! BANG!

"Okay, now what?"

[Deleted]

I'd be at the beach painting shells and selling them for some walking around money.

[Jaguar]

Would double jeopardy count in this case? Meaning could she kill him cause legally he is dead.

Yeah I'm mean today.

[Deleted]

Murder is defined by statute as unlawful killing.

Although 'killing' isn't defined in the statute, its ordinary language sense is well captured by Merriam-Webster: "depriv[ing] of life." In this particular case, part of the record includes the judge's acknowledgement that the defendant is, in fact, alive; this finding of fact is immaterial to the law in the case of appealing a determination of legal death, but sufficient to uphold a murder charge in the event of its subsequent wilful deprivation by another.

... Oh, you were being rhetorical.