Would you call? (I did)

[hoops902]

Jul 3, 2013 10:30:03 GMT -5 whoisjohngalt said:

Jul 2, 2013 22:56:19 GMT -5 @rockit said:

For Sure.  The mover lost several of my boxes 25 years ago. I'm still ticked off that whoever ended up with them didn't turn them in or notify the movers.  Its stuff that would not have great value or meaning to anyone else.  Might be that the packers stole thing as they sucked big time.

You are ticked off at the wrong person, you should be ticked off at movers, not whoever "got" your boxes.  It's not their job or responsibility to fix other people's errors.

That depends. It's not their responsibility to fix it, it IS their responsibility to tell the movers.  If someone drops off a new car at your house, you don't get to just keep it because someone made a shipping mistake.  You don't necessarily have to make sure it gets to the rightful owner, but you do have a responsibility not to steal it.  It's not yours just because it shows up at your door.

[muttleynfelix]

Glad your move went smooth Mich. 

[The Walk of the Penguin Mich]

Jul 3, 2013 10:52:27 GMT -5 muttleynfelix said:

Glad your move went smooth Mich. 

Me too.

My last professional move, I had to use the moving company that the university suggested.  They screwed us every time we turned around, but since I HAD to use them, all I could do was argue with them.  The university paid for both my move and the lab move and it was one of the more frustrating experiences I had.  So when I started researching things for this move, this company had VERY good reviews and the worst I found was that someone posted that they had a few broken glasses.

[whoisjohngalt]

Jul 3, 2013 10:45:53 GMT -5 hoops902 said:

Jul 3, 2013 10:30:03 GMT -5 whoisjohngalt said:

You are ticked off at the wrong person, you should be ticked off at movers, not whoever "got" your boxes.  It's not their job or responsibility to fix other people's errors.

That depends. It's not their responsibility to fix it, it IS their responsibility to tell the movers.  If someone drops off a new car at your house, you don't get to just keep it because someone made a shipping mistake.  You don't necessarily have to make sure it gets to the rightful owner, but you do have a responsibility not to steal it.  It's not yours just because it shows up at your door.

And that's why I said "I wouldn't keep the TV, but it doesn't mean I would call the movers either".  I might call- one phone call, no longer than a minute long.  After that, it goes to the nearest nursing home, American Veterans or any other charity that is willing to pick it up.

[hoops902]

Jul 3, 2013 11:47:30 GMT -5 whoisjohngalt said:

Jul 3, 2013 10:45:53 GMT -5 hoops902 said:

That depends. It's not their responsibility to fix it, it IS their responsibility to tell the movers.  If someone drops off a new car at your house, you don't get to just keep it because someone made a shipping mistake.  You don't necessarily have to make sure it gets to the rightful owner, but you do have a responsibility not to steal it.  It's not yours just because it shows up at your door.

And that's why I said "I wouldn't keep the TV, but it doesn't mean I would call the movers either".  I might call- one phone call, no longer than a minute long.  After that, it goes to the nearest nursing home, American Veterans or any other charity that is willing to pick it up.

So you WOULD steal it.  Giving away items that aren't yours is stealing.  You don't own that item, you're not allowed to give it away to others any more than you'd be allowed to give it away to your child or friend or neighbor.

[The Walk of the Penguin Mich]

And that's why I said "I wouldn't keep the TV, but it doesn't mean I would call the movers either". I might call- one phone call, no longer than a minute long. After that, it goes to the nearest nursing home, American Veterans or any other charity that is willing to pick it up.

Wow!

What if it was a box of your children's pictures?  What if it was YOUR TV?  People make mistakes and they should be given a chance to try to fix it.  It doesn't sound like you are even willing to give them the chance.

[The Captain]

Mich - just curious since you seem very satisfied with the movers, are they a national company?

Care to share who you used?

[The Walk of the Penguin Mich]

Jul 3, 2013 12:13:34 GMT -5 The Captain said:

Mich - just curious since you seem very satisfied with the movers, are they a national company?

Care to share who you used?

It was a local company out of Lexington, KY.

[The Captain]

Nuts!  Well, glad it went well for you.

[Deleted]

Honor. It's an old term that used to mean a lot to people. It meant enough that in the past people would die because of it. It still means that much to me. I would have returned it (even if I had to pay the shipping).

[The Walk of the Penguin Mich]

Driver is on his way back up here to pick it up this afternoon.  

I don't have an address or name to ship it to, Tex.....all that I know is that it is not my TV.  So exactly where do you ship it?  Not only that, I would imagine that it would cost a couple hundred $$ to mail that sucker and this has NOT been a cheap month for me with the movers, travel and hotel expenses I've had over the last month.

[whoisjohngalt]

Jul 3, 2013 11:55:57 GMT -5 hoops902 said:

Jul 3, 2013 11:47:30 GMT -5 whoisjohngalt said:

And that's why I said "I wouldn't keep the TV, but it doesn't mean I would call the movers either".  I might call- one phone call, no longer than a minute long.  After that, it goes to the nearest nursing home, American Veterans or any other charity that is willing to pick it up.

So you WOULD steal it.  Giving away items that aren't yours is stealing.  You don't own that item, you're not allowed to give it away to others any more than you'd be allowed to give it away to your child or friend or neighbor.

Yeah, OK  .  To steal would be to take something.  If something brought into my house I would hardly call it stealing.  There would be no actions on my part to qualify it as stealing.

Anywhooo, as I said in my 1st post on this thread - I am done trying to fix other people's mistakes.  It's costing me in time and money, so theoretically, they are stealing from me.

We've had similar threads in the past, so I am not going to go round and round with you on this, my opinion is not going to change

[whoisjohngalt]

Jul 3, 2013 12:03:46 GMT -5 The Walk of the Penguin Mich said:

And that's why I said "I wouldn't keep the TV, but it doesn't mean I would call the movers either". I might call- one phone call, no longer than a minute long. After that, it goes to the nearest nursing home, American Veterans or any other charity that is willing to pick it up.

Wow!

What if it was a box of your children's pictures?  What if it was YOUR TV?  People make mistakes and they should be given a chance to try to fix it.  It doesn't sound like you are even willing to give them the chance.

And as I said - I would make a phone call - they can do the rest, how is that not giving them a chance?

ETA:  and btw, I find it interesting that the item itself makes a difference to you.  To me - it doesn't.  I wouldn't care if it was a diamond ring or a box of dirty underwear - you get one chance to fix it at my convenience and we are done. 

[The Walk of the Penguin Mich]

And as I said - I would make a phone call - they can do the rest, how is that not giving them a chance?

ETA: and btw, I find it interesting that the item itself makes a difference to you. To me - it doesn't. I wouldn't care if it was a diamond ring or a box of dirty underwear - you get one chance to fix it at my convenience and we are done.


I don't know if I would call. I wouldn't keep the TV (for many reasons), but I am so freaking tired of dealing with other people's mistakes, OMG, I am soooo tired of it that I don't know if I would call.


Because this is what you said in your first post.  I just get the feeling that you couldn't be bothered.

Then you posted this:

I might call- one phone call, no longer than a minute long. After that, it goes to the nearest nursing home, American Veterans or any other charity that is willing to pick it up.

[geenamercile]

I have to say I would call, I would give them some time to make arrangements.  I'm thinking a week, after that I'm not storing the object either.  At that point I'm not sure what I would do with it.  How long until something is considered abandon?  

[whoisjohngalt]

It's not that I couldn't be bothered, it's that I don't want to be bothered.   It really bothers me how little people value other people's time.   Do you know how many times I've had people telling ME what I should be doing to correct THEIR mistakes.  Billing departments, stores, dr offices, post office, etc, etc - "I" need to call, "I" should write this letter, "I" have to do this or that.

I finally started making them pay me.  We'll see if that helps any

[Peace Of Mind]

Yes, I would call them to tell them about the TV.  We don't need another TV!  Now the car...  I'll get back to you on that.  What year, make and model?   

I would be upset if I lost my stuff and would not put anybody through that.  I'd call regardless of what it was.  But it's the movers responsibility to come get it unless there was a local drop off place that was close to me.  I'd drop it off so I wouldn't have to be inconvenienced by their schedule. 

[Deleted]

who is - I disagree with you.  Lifting a phone receiver isn't "fixing someone else's error".  It is notifying them that there is an error. What did you keep that you are defending?  You said you were sick of errors, so must be several in the making for you recently.  You can notify someone of a problem without going out of your way to fix it for them.

The mover/insurance company paid the claim on the goods, but I still would have rather had my stuff - there were memories in there.

[Deleted]

Jul 3, 2013 10:38:25 GMT -5 The Walk of the Penguin Mich said:

Jul 3, 2013 10:30:03 GMT -5 whoisjohngalt said:

You are ticked off at the wrong person, you should be ticked off at movers, not whoever "got" your boxes.  It's not their job or responsibility to fix other people's errors.

Didn't you go through your inventory list before you signed off on it?  I had a list of numbers that corresponded to those stickers that were put on my boxes and furniture.  As the boxes were moved into the house, I made sure I saw every number (I am still not sure how the TV box got in) and checked it off of the list.

It was a huge pain in the ass (particularly since I had to be up and moving and my joints weren't very happy about it), but every number on the list was accounted for and if it wasn't checked off, I went looking for it.  When the truck was empty, there were only 3 numbers that were not checked off and those were heavy boxes/furniture (they put 2-3 numbers on heavier furniture or boxes).

yes I went through my list & yes I knew boxes were missing.  The claim was paid promptly but I still would have rather had my personal items.  My stuff was offloaded to temporary storage after it came across country and then delivered to the house after I obtained one.  Although it was rather humorous that they dispatched the truck to deliver an entire household's goods to the Residence Inn . . . that delayed them a couple of hours while the puzzled driver figured out where I really was!

[The Walk of the Penguin Mich]

yes I went through my list & yes I knew boxes were missing. The claim was paid promptly but I still would have rather had my personal items. My stuff was offloaded to temporary storage after it came across country and then delivered to the house after I obtained one.

That would have to make things more difficult.  When I moved, even though they brought a smaller truck to my apartment in KY, only my stuff filled the truck and they transferred it all to the big rig for the cross country haul.  So your stuff had a couple of additional transfers to screw up.

The mover was kind of annoying today.  I thought he was going to be here this afternoon and he decided to show up tomorrow instead.  He wanted to be here at 8 am, I got him to delay until 9 as I have no intention of moving that early tomorrow!  It shouldn't take him too long to repack the TV and get back onto the road.

[Deleted]

Jul 3, 2013 13:21:55 GMT -5 The Walk of the Penguin Mich said:

Driver is on his way back up here to pick it up this afternoon.  

I don't have an address or name to ship it to, Tex.....all that I know is that it is not my TV.  So exactly where do you ship it?  Not only that, I would imagine that it would cost a couple hundred $$ to mail that sucker and this has NOT been a cheap month for me with the movers, travel and hotel expenses I've had over the last month.

Mich just to be clear I was just saying how I would look at it. (returning it would be an honor thing to me).

My guess is that the odds are they will know (or may already know) where it goes. Usually it's just a matter of 2 or 3 different household goods on the same truck & 1 items gets mixed up with someone else's drop off. A missing large TV would be noticed real quick. That screw up means that someone wasn't watching their paperwork close enough. (On the other hand it could have been a real screw up where it goes with something back in their warehouse).

It would have been cheaper for them to pay you to go ahead & ship it to the right person (& give you their address), but sadly as a company I'm sure that they realize that not everyone out there is trustworthy.  

Over the years I have received a few packages that were sent in error (I used to buy a lot from different people). I would let the senders know about the mistake & they would let me know where to send it. It wasn't a big deal to me.

[geenamercile]

The claim was paid promptly

I wonder if it was cheaper for the company to pay the claim than to fix the mistake.  

[The Walk of the Penguin Mich]

TV has just been picked up.  Owner doesn't know that it took a side trip because the goods are supposed to go to a storage unit in Montana.

The whole situation to be resolved involved me making 2 phone calls, the driver 3.  Not horribly onerous.