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Post by 8 Bit WWBG on Mar 12, 2013 15:53:45 GMT -5
2:28 in to that video: "somebody needs to be held accountable... and they need to PAY".
AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA
She says it with such conviction too!
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Post by Nazgul Girl on Mar 12, 2013 18:12:40 GMT -5
They need to stop having sex if they can't figure out where babies come from. Quiver full is disgusting. People have children, not litters. Meh. Their children are fed, educated, and generally well behaved. I have no doubt most, if not all, will be contributing members to society as they grow up. Even if that means having their own 10+ kids. Heck, DH and I want 6 kids because we came from big families and loved the experience growing up (his sister already has four and my sister already has five - so carrying on the big family tradition). Now, if they were expecting someone else to pay for their kids like this lady, then I would be pissed: Chances are that she is on Medicaid and Medicaid normally pays for birth control. Use of the birth control methods offered is something she should consider. We're all paying for gobs of kids pumped out by these mothers. They're not a gift from God. They're a gift from us who are employed and pay taxes.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Mar 12, 2013 19:28:20 GMT -5
Meh. Their children are fed, educated, and generally well behaved. I have no doubt most, if not all, will be contributing members to society as they grow up. Even if that means having their own 10+ kids. Heck, DH and I want 6 kids because we came from big families and loved the experience growing up (his sister already has four and my sister already has five - so carrying on the big family tradition). Now, if they were expecting someone else to pay for their kids like this lady, then I would be pissed: Chances are that she is on Medicaid and Medicaid normally pays for birth control. Use of the birth control methods offered is something she should consider. We're all paying for gobs of kids pumped out by these mothers. They're not a gift from God. They're a gift from us who are employed and pay taxes. Holy hell...this woman needs a forced freaking sterilization...and a few bitch slap for her entitled attitude. She is a shining example of what is wrong with our country
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Post by taz157 on Mar 12, 2013 19:40:46 GMT -5
Holy hell...this woman needs a forced freaking sterilization...and a few bitch slap for her entitled attitude. She is a shining example of what is wrong with our country Of course, who here is surprised by Doxie's comment?... Not I...
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Post by Miss Tequila on Mar 12, 2013 19:48:19 GMT -5
Holy hell...this woman needs a forced freaking sterilization...and a few bitch slap for her entitled attitude. She is a shining example of what is wrong with our country Of course, who here is surprised by Doxie's comment?... Not I... I saw it and didn't even feel like commenting on it....
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Post by doxieluvr on Mar 12, 2013 20:14:03 GMT -5
Seriously, at this point, what can the mother do? The cat is out of the bag. She is not going to suddenly find a career that will support 13 people comfortably. A doctors salary would not be sufficient.
I choose to be more pissed off at the money wasted on foreign aid, then money wasted in US social service programs.
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Post by swamp on Mar 12, 2013 20:30:43 GMT -5
Seriously, at this point, what can the mother do? The cat is out of the bag. She is not going to suddenly find a career that will support 13 people comfortably. A doctors salary would not be sufficient. I choose to be more pissed off at the money wasted on foreign aid, then money wasted in US social service programs. Suck it up and deal. I'm sure life is hard for her. However, her own dumb choices got her there. I don't get too bent about single moms needing welfare when there's like one or two kids. Everyone makes mistakes. But more than 10 kids?! Wtf honey, get your tubes tied.
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Post by susanb on Mar 12, 2013 20:40:25 GMT -5
I choose to be more pissed off at the money wasted on foreign aid, then money wasted in US social service programs. I am always baffled by this sentiment. What is the underlying value system? If you think that welfare is humanitarian and should be there because we have a human obligation as a society, humanitarianism doesn't recognize nationality. If you think that only people privileged enough to be born in the wealthiest country in the history of the world should receive aid, then I can't really get behind that. If you think that our money should only go to support our citizens, then I could get behind that if we were self sustaining. As it is, we rely on imports from all over the world to keep our food and energy prices low relative to our salaries and the rest of the world. I am not saying that welfare or foreign aid are being administered in a way that I agree with, but I can't understand supporting welfare and not foreign aid.
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Post by zibazinski on Mar 12, 2013 21:49:09 GMT -5
Well, when one is benefiting from social services, one has a vested interest in keeping it flowing. If it should be cut off or reduced due to welfare for other countries, then you don't get as much.
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Post by taz157 on Mar 12, 2013 21:57:21 GMT -5
Seriously, at this point, what can the mother do? The cat is out of the bag. She is not going to suddenly find a career that will support 13 people comfortably. A doctors salary would not be sufficient. I choose to be more pissed off at the money wasted on foreign aid, then money wasted in US social service programs. Suck it up and deal. I'm sure life is hard for her. However, her own dumb choices got her there. I don't get too bent about single moms needing welfare when there's like one or two kids. Everyone makes mistakes. But more than 10 kids?! Wtf honey, get your tubes tied.
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Post by taz157 on Mar 12, 2013 21:58:49 GMT -5
DH and I only have 1 kid right now and we would love to have more. HOWEVER, we can't afford to have another kid at the moment due to our finances. We aren't like the woman in the video (or you apparently ) and have decided to hold off on having more kids until we can afford them.
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Post by doxieluvr on Mar 13, 2013 6:12:02 GMT -5
Seriously, at this point, what can the mother do? The cat is out of the bag. She is not going to suddenly find a career that will support 13 people comfortably. A doctors salary would not be sufficient. I choose to be more pissed off at the money wasted on foreign aid, then money wasted in US social service programs. Suck it up and deal. I'm sure life is hard for her. However, her own dumb choices got her there. I don't get too bent about single moms needing welfare when there's like one or two kids. Everyone makes mistakes. But more than 10 kids?! Wtf honey, get your tubes tied. Deal how? This does not answer my question. If you were going to pick up the phone and call this woman to tell her how to support 12 children, without social services, What would you tell her?
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Post by doxieluvr on Mar 13, 2013 6:14:46 GMT -5
DH and I only have 1 kid right now and we would love to have more. HOWEVER, we can't afford to have another kid at the moment due to our finances. We aren't like the woman in the video (or you apparently ) and have decided to hold off on having more kids until we can afford them. The kids are already here. It is too late to tell her not to have them. What is the solution for the situation now? No one ever has that answer.
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Post by doxieluvr on Mar 13, 2013 6:18:39 GMT -5
I choose to be more pissed off at the money wasted on foreign aid, then money wasted in US social service programs. I am always baffled by this sentiment. What is the underlying value system? If you think that welfare is humanitarian and should be there because we have a human obligation as a society, humanitarianism doesn't recognize nationality. If you think that only people privileged enough to be born in the wealthiest country in the history of the world should receive aid, then I can't really get behind that. If you think that our money should only go to support our citizens, then I could get behind that if we were self sustaining. As it is, we rely on imports from all over the world to keep our food and energy prices low relative to our salaries and the rest of the world. I am not saying that welfare or foreign aid are being administered in a way that I agree with, but I can't understand supporting welfare and not foreign aid. I think only US money should be used in the US. I also do not think we should rely so heavily on imports. We need manufacturing here to create jobs for our people.
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Post by taz157 on Mar 13, 2013 7:23:08 GMT -5
DH and I only have 1 kid right now and we would love to have more. HOWEVER, we can't afford to have another kid at the moment due to our finances. We aren't like the woman in the video (or you apparently ) and have decided to hold off on having more kids until we can afford them. The kids are already here. It is too late to tell her not to have them. What is the solution for the situation now? No one ever has that answer. Adoption. I'm not saying its easy for people to decide to do, but in the best interest of the child, it's probably for the best. FWIW, one of my nieces (17 YO and had an whoops) gave her baby boy up for adoption as she knew she wasn't ready for a baby, couldn't afford the baby, and wanted him to have better than what she could provide for him.
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Post by zibazinski on Mar 13, 2013 7:31:55 GMT -5
I always love it when some poster who is availing themselves of taxpayer dollars defends her and others like her RIGHTS to them. Makes my day for sure.
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Post by zibazinski on Mar 13, 2013 7:33:33 GMT -5
Yes, those kids are here. This should have been dealt with at two children. No more aid for them, period. You want to breed like a rabbit? You better have more plans in your life but endless and mindless sex.
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Post by doxieluvr on Mar 13, 2013 8:28:19 GMT -5
[/img]) and have decided to hold off on having more kids until we can afford them. [/quote]The kids are already here. It is too late to tell her not to have them. What is the solution for the situation now? No one ever has that answer.[/quote] Adoption. I'm not saying its easy for people to decide to do, but in the best interest of the child, it's probably for the best. FWIW, one of my nieces (17 YO and had an whoops) gave her baby boy up for adoption as she knew she wasn't ready for a baby, couldn't afford the baby, and wanted him to have better than what she could provide for him.[/quote] This is assuming that we have enough people to adopt the droves of children born into this situation. We don't. Take a look at your states website of available children for adoption. Older children have even less of a chance for adoption.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2013 10:09:12 GMT -5
"We need manufacturing here to create jobs for our people."
You know why manufacturing jobs aren't here anymore? Because of greedy people that are like you who think they should get paid all kinds of money for little work.
Yes the kids are here now so she can't do anything about that. But she can do something to NOT have any more kids for one, then she can get a job or two or three to try to support at least some of them and pay the taxpayers' money back! Of course you prefer welfare since your kids are on it!
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Post by movingforward on Mar 13, 2013 10:26:35 GMT -5
"We need manufacturing here to create jobs for our people." You know why manufacturing jobs aren't here anymore? Because of greedy people that are like you who think they should get paid all kinds of money for little work. Yes the kids are here now so she can't do anything about that. But she can do something to NOT have any more kids for one, then she can get a job or two or three to try to support at least some of them and pay the taxpayers' money back! Of course you prefer welfare since your kids are on it! Also, we do rely upon exports to provide jobs here in the US (e.g. coal). I agree it would be nice to have more manufacturing jobs here in the US and I LOVE to buy made in the USA products but the world economy depends upon importing and exporting. Last week I was in Hondorus where some labels said made in Mexico and then I went to Belize where a lot of the labels said made in Hondorus. Here in TX we have a Toyota plant were Americans are putting together foreign cars and there are Fords being put together in other countries. I am far from an expert on this subject matter but I have a feeling there is a whole lot more to this subject matter and I would actually enjoy hearing more from people who know a lot more about it than I do.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2013 10:40:57 GMT -5
US Foreign aid to countries like Pakistan that have our back (wink, wink...) last year was 50 BILLION dollars. foreignassistance.gov/CountryIntro.aspxCost of 1 year of the US SNAP program was $74 BILLION dollars. In the 2012 fiscal year, $74.6 billion in food assistance was distributed. [4] As of September 2012, 47.7 million Americans were receiving on average $134.29 per month in food assistance. [4] In Washington, D.C., and Mississippi, more than one-fifth of residents receive food assistance Total Cost of Wars Since 2001 $1,432,299,565,782 Cost of War in Iraq $811,885,904,349 Cost of War in Afghanistan $620,413,661,433
The cost of blowing up random shit in the desert, and accomplishing not a freaking positive thing... would pay for the US SNAP program for 20 YEARS. No one complains about this "waste" just the poor people who want to eat or see the doctor...
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Post by nogooddeed on Mar 13, 2013 10:45:29 GMT -5
I choose to be more pissed off at the money wasted on foreign aid, then money wasted in US social service programs. You mean like state insurance for your children even though they shouldn't qualify based on your household income?
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Post by doxieluvr on Mar 13, 2013 10:50:32 GMT -5
My children do qualify based on our household income. The part you all forget in your calculations, is the deductions for cost of housing, utilities, insurance and whatever other things are used in the calculation. if you are going to hate on a program, you should at least know how it works.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2013 10:53:43 GMT -5
"The cost of blowing up random shit in the desert, and accomplishing not a freaking positive thing... would pay for the US SNAP program for 20 YEARS. No one complains about this "waste" just the poor people who want to eat or see the doctor..."
Are you kidding? Most people DO complain about the idiotic so-called wars the US has declared on countries thousands of miles away. But one doesn't excuse the other. They are not related. And it is not complaining about poor people, it is complaining about people who CHOOSE not to work and pump out 15 kids like this woman (litter mom). It is the taxes I pay that pay for this woman's offspring while I am worrying about providing for my 1 child. Her kids don't come before my kids for me.
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Post by mrsdutt on Mar 13, 2013 10:54:36 GMT -5
Meh. Their children are fed, educated, and generally well behaved. I have no doubt most, if not all, will be contributing members to society as they grow up. Even if that means having their own 10+ kids. Heck, DH and I want 6 kids because we came from big families and loved the experience growing up (his sister already has four and my sister already has five - so carrying on the big family tradition). Now, if they were expecting someone else to pay for their kids like this lady, then I would be pissed: Chances are that she is on Medicaid and Medicaid normally pays for birth control. Use of the birth control methods offered is something she should consider. We're all paying for gobs of kids pumped out by these mothers. They're not a gift from God. They're a gift from us who are employed and pay taxes. What can a person say? Unbelievable
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Post by susanb on Mar 13, 2013 10:56:04 GMT -5
I am always baffled by this sentiment. What is the underlying value system? If you think that welfare is humanitarian and should be there because we have a human obligation as a society, humanitarianism doesn't recognize nationality. If you think that only people privileged enough to be born in the wealthiest country in the history of the world should receive aid, then I can't really get behind that. If you think that our money should only go to support our citizens, then I could get behind that if we were self sustaining. As it is, we rely on imports from all over the world to keep our food and energy prices low relative to our salaries and the rest of the world. I am not saying that welfare or foreign aid are being administered in a way that I agree with, but I can't understand supporting welfare and not foreign aid. I think only US money should be used in the US. I also do not think we should rely so heavily on imports. We need manufacturing here to create jobs for our people. Okay, but why? What values make you think welfare is "good" and foreign aid is "bad." Also, do you have any idea what would happen to your costs if the imports I referred to (food and energy) were no longer imported?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2013 11:02:26 GMT -5
I think we should have a pay for sterilization program.
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Post by doxieluvr on Mar 13, 2013 11:02:26 GMT -5
I just feel that we should take care of our people before other countries. If that equals welfare, so be it. When do the other countries contribute to the US?....not often.
I have no idea on the cost and benefits of import. Do we need to provide aid to have trade?
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Post by Sam_2.0 on Mar 13, 2013 11:10:35 GMT -5
Oped - yep! Like offer guys already paying child support on 2+ kids the chance to get a v for $500. How many would be lining up for that? Female options are a bit more difficult, but I think IUDs should be covered for anyone that wants one and is medically eligible. Maybe a $250 payment to a woman getting an IUD at her 6-week checkup (since it's not permanent, just a long-term solution). But you are only eligible for the payment once every 5 years.
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Post by susanb on Mar 13, 2013 11:10:47 GMT -5
I just feel that we should take care of our people before other countries. If that equals welfare, so be it. When do the other countries contribute to the US?....not often. I have no idea on the cost and benefits of import. Do we need to provide aid to have trade? Again, why should we take care of our people? Not saying I disagree, but why do you think that is important for us to do as a society? As far as your questions about imports....If you are interested, read up on what Dole has done in Latin America. Our companies and government have murdered farmers and government leaders to control farm land and sell us cheap food. I think we have an obligation to the people we have literally raped and killed to make our life abundant and cheap.
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