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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 9, 2013 12:03:00 GMT -5
www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-0308-acorn-20130308,0,5432316.story SAN DIEGO — James O'Keefe, the conservative activist whose hidden-camera stings have been aimed at liberal targets, has agreed to pay $100,000 to settle a lawsuit filed by a former employee of the group ACORN, according to documents filed Thursday in federal court here. As part of the settlement, O'Keefe says he "regrets any pain" suffered by Juan Carlos Vera, who was interviewed by O'Keefe and an associate in ACORN's office in National City, near the U.S.-Mexico border, on Aug. 18, 2009.
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Among O'Keefe's deceptions, the report said, was that in the videos he is shown wearing "stereotypical 1970s pimp garb" but that when he visited the ACORN offices, he was wearing a suit and tie. emphasis mine. too bad this didn't go to trial.
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Post by billisonboard on Mar 9, 2013 12:17:59 GMT -5
But he is such a cute little boy when he plays dress up.
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 9, 2013 12:48:24 GMT -5
But he is such a cute little boy when he plays dress up. the former ACORN employee is laughing all the way to the bank.
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 9, 2013 12:54:22 GMT -5
similar story from Forbes:
The AG’s report highlighted how Mr. O’Keefe edited his videos to appear as if he was engaging in his ACORN hi-jinks wearing “stereotypical 1970’s pimp garb”, the intent being to suggest that ACORN employees would willingly do business with someone dressed in this manner. However, it turns out that O’Keefe was actually wearing a coat and tie when he entered the ACORN offices. The report also stated that ACORN employees “may be able to bring a private suit against O’Keefe and Giles for recording a confidential conversation.”
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Post by Tennesseer on Mar 9, 2013 12:58:09 GMT -5
Any acknowledgment of the settlement from Breitbart yet?
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 9, 2013 13:09:57 GMT -5
from the (right wing) Examiner:
He was wearing a suit and tie when he filmed the video, but O'Keefe edited the results to make it look as if he wore a stereotypical "pimp" outfit to the meeting. He also edited the video to make it appear that Vera agreed to help O'Keefe smuggle underage girls into the U.S. for prostitution.
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 9, 2013 13:10:57 GMT -5
i think ACORN should sue him. after all, this video was the key ingredient in getting them defunded, which lead to their bankruptcy. that should be worth millions.
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Post by cereb on Mar 9, 2013 14:29:22 GMT -5
i think ACORN should sue him. after all, this video was the key ingredient in getting them defunded, which lead to their bankruptcy. that should be worth millions. I completely agree.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Mar 11, 2013 9:19:36 GMT -5
www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-0308-acorn-20130308,0,5432316.story SAN DIEGO — James O'Keefe, the conservative activist whose hidden-camera stings have been aimed at liberal targets, has agreed to pay $100,000 to settle a lawsuit filed by a former employee of the group ACORN, according to documents filed Thursday in federal court here. As part of the settlement, O'Keefe says he "regrets any pain" suffered by Juan Carlos Vera, who was interviewed by O'Keefe and an associate in ACORN's office in National City, near the U.S.-Mexico border, on Aug. 18, 2009.
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Among O'Keefe's deceptions, the report said, was that in the videos he is shown wearing "stereotypical 1970s pimp garb" but that when he visited the ACORN offices, he was wearing a suit and tie. emphasis mine. too bad this didn't go to trial. So, "among the deceptions" was the fact that O'Keefe wasn't wearing a pimp outfit in the video featuring the National City ACORN office- but, I missed it, did Juan Carlos Vera, of the now defunct, disbanded fraudulent Democrat political fundraising and campaign organization posing as a not profit, deny the substance of his portrayal in the video? Oh, right- he didn't. Because it was all substantively true; it was verified as true; and ACORN was defunded- and without taxpayer backing, the organization collapsed.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Mar 11, 2013 9:22:08 GMT -5
i think ACORN should sue him. after all, this video was the key ingredient in getting them defunded, which lead to their bankruptcy. that should be worth millions. I think We The People should go after the principles in ACORN and get our money back. For decades, a "non-profit" ACORN was doing nothing short of Democrat political activism and running de facto campaign offices for Democrats on the taxpayer's dime. Defunded? I'm thinking prison time and restitution.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Mar 11, 2013 9:40:58 GMT -5
By the way, it is a total myth that these videos were edited to "make it look like" anything it wasn't. They were edited- initially, but for time. If you have the patience, you can watch the FULL UN-EDITED, UN-CUT VERSION OF THE VIDEOS any time you like. There are several liberal myths about the ACORN tapes besides the above described deliberate attempts by liberal politicians, talking heads, and journalists to deceptively imply that "editing" is the same as "doctoring". There's also the myth that James O'Keefe did not pose as a pimp, and did not in fact receive cooperation from ACORN offices in his scheme to open a brothel, including one where he claimed to be involved in and planning more importation of underage sex workers. The fact is, that there are a LOT of videos out there, and he wasn't posing as a pimp in all of them. But posing as a pimp or not (and he DID pose as a pimp in the infamous San Diego video), he definitely got help with his illegal scheme, and never once- not even one single time (isn't that amazing to think about?) did a single representative of ACORN even once notify law enforcement of their run in with a man running a brothel, and importing or proposing to import underage sex workers across the US border? Not even once. This lawsuit is meaningless- these myths about James O'Keefe not posing as pimp are old, and have long since been debunked. No doubt Mr. O'Keefe doesn't have the means to sit around and be raped by these left wing activist funded lawsuits for the rest of his life-- this is a way of getting back at him, and intimidating others who would go after these kinds of left wing groups. The "didn't actually pose as a pimp" myth goes way back- and has long since been disproved. patterico.com/2010/03/01/debunking-some-emerging-acorn-liberal-myths/You all let me know when you're done watching the full, unedited version of the videos. Let me know, too, when you discover a credible source for some of these claims about O'Keefe that don't come from Democrat politicians, and former ACORN associates.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Mar 11, 2013 9:43:41 GMT -5
Actually, that's a false statement. There's no record anywhere in this entire mess of a complaint being filed with police, or any report to police about the activities proposed by Mr. O'Keefe. So, he may have called police, but he didn't follow through- nor did the police. This is actually one of the more damning facts about the entire escapade.
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Post by Opti on Mar 11, 2013 9:49:05 GMT -5
Patterico.com I'm supposed to believe a blogger I know nothing about over a court of law?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2013 9:51:50 GMT -5
Thanks for the follow up Paul, for a second there at the beginning of this thread I thought I was reading New Information.
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Post by workpublic on Mar 11, 2013 10:22:49 GMT -5
It was not his responsibility to follow up beyond that. Afterall, he wasn't on Community Neighborhood Watch duty.
and since the cops did nothing, could one see where a community neighborhood watchman may do something out of the ordinary(right or wrong) through frustration, knowing the cops could care less?
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Mar 11, 2013 10:25:56 GMT -5
Patterico.com I'm supposed to believe a blogger I know nothing about over a court of law? A Court of Law has not weighed in on this. Are you done watching the full, unedited tapes yet?
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Mar 11, 2013 10:27:54 GMT -5
Thanks for the follow up Paul, for a second there at the beginning of this thread I thought I was reading New Information.I thought so, too. But as it turns out, the OP just dredges up old, long since debunked liberal mythology about the whole escapade- the tapes were doctored, he wasn't really dressed as a pimp, acorn associates didn't cooperate, acorn associates immediately notified police even though there's no records of that in any of the incidents. Funny, none of those sources reporting on this have the stones to link to the full, unedited tapes.
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Post by Tennesseer on Mar 11, 2013 10:29:38 GMT -5
It was not his responsibility to follow up beyond that. Afterall, he wasn't on Community Neighborhood Watch duty. and since the cops did nothing, could one see where a community neighborhood watchman may do something out of the ordinary(right or wrong) through frustration, knowing the cops could care less? If you're referring to G. Zimmerman plugging that kid, I say no. If I recall, the police responded a number of times to Zimmerman's calls-including that fatal night.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Mar 11, 2013 10:30:08 GMT -5
O'Keefe was wearing a suit and tie when he went in for the meeting. He discussed prostitution with the employee of ACORN, who promptly reported it to the police after O'Keefe left the office. There's no record of this. This is just standard file the lawsuit to deflect, settle the lawsuit to stop the bleeding procedure. Nothing to see here. No new information. Nothing about ACORN depicted in the original, unedited tapes was 'refuted'.
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Post by Opti on Mar 11, 2013 10:38:56 GMT -5
Thanks for the follow up Paul, for a second there at the beginning of this thread I thought I was reading New Information.I thought so, too. But as it turns out, the OP just dredges up old, long since debunked liberal mythology about the whole escapade- the tapes were doctored, he wasn't really dressed as a pimp, acorn associates didn't cooperate, acorn associates immediately notified police even though there's no records of that in any of the incidents. Funny, none of those sources reporting on this have the stones to link to the full, unedited tapes. Oops, my bad. He *settled* so he *didn't have to go to court*. If he was convinced he would win my guess is he would have gone to court for the very reason you mention. He may be sued by others. And about the supposed uneditted tapes. Really without being able to access the original tapes and prove they are uneditted I wouldn't necessarily believe anyone who said they posted uneditted footage. No way without someone physically seeing the tapes and even then with all this times elapsed you could probably just duplicate it on a new tape to appear uneditted. Without seeing it myself immediately after filming or having it all examined by experts *I* wouldn't believe any tape was uneditted from any source without proof as I have listed. Most video on the Internet is processed. No way to prove or disprove what was done to the original.
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 11, 2013 14:50:36 GMT -5
www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-0308-acorn-20130308,0,5432316.story SAN DIEGO — James O'Keefe, the conservative activist whose hidden-camera stings have been aimed at liberal targets, has agreed to pay $100,000 to settle a lawsuit filed by a former employee of the group ACORN, according to documents filed Thursday in federal court here. As part of the settlement, O'Keefe says he "regrets any pain" suffered by Juan Carlos Vera, who was interviewed by O'Keefe and an associate in ACORN's office in National City, near the U.S.-Mexico border, on Aug. 18, 2009.
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Among O'Keefe's deceptions, the report said, was that in the videos he is shown wearing "stereotypical 1970s pimp garb" but that when he visited the ACORN offices, he was wearing a suit and tie. emphasis mine. too bad this didn't go to trial. So, "among the deceptions" was the fact that O'Keefe wasn't wearing a pimp outfit in the video featuring the National City ACORN office- but, I missed it, did Juan Carlos Vera, of the now defunct, disbanded fraudulent Democrat political fundraising and campaign organization posing as a not profit, deny the substance of his portrayal in the video? of course. he called the cops on O'Keefe. Oh, right- he didn't. oh, wrong. he did.Because it was all substantively true; it was verified as true; and ACORN was defunded- and without taxpayer backing, the organization collapsed. the edited video was objectively false in it's implications.
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 11, 2013 14:52:28 GMT -5
O'Keefe was wearing a suit and tie when he went in for the meeting. He discussed prostitution with the employee of ACORN, who promptly reported it to the police after O'Keefe left the office. There's no record of this. i believe there is.This is just standard file the lawsuit to deflect, settle the lawsuit to stop the bleeding procedure. Nothing to see here. No new information. Nothing about ACORN depicted in the original, unedited tapes was 'refuted'. except that ACORN wasn't offering to help him with a prostitution business, i agree.
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 11, 2013 14:54:44 GMT -5
Thanks for the follow up Paul, for a second there at the beginning of this thread I thought I was reading New Information.it is only new information for someone who hasn't followed the story. the last time i brought this up, Paul was denying that O'Theif (i just made that up- like it?) went to ACORN in a suit and tie. at least he has stopped doing that (edit: never mind, he hasn't). now, if we can get him to accept that ACORN never offered to help him set up a prostitution ring, my work is complete.
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 11, 2013 14:56:37 GMT -5
Thanks for the follow up Paul, for a second there at the beginning of this thread I thought I was reading New Information.I thought so, too. But as it turns out, the OP just dredges up old, long since debunked liberal mythology about the whole escapade- the tapes were doctored, he wasn't really dressed as a pimp, none of that is mythology, Paul. your version is mythology.acorn associates didn't cooperate, acorn associates immediately notified police even though there's no records of that in any of the incidents. Funny, none of those sources reporting on this have the stones to link to the full, unedited tapes. yes they do.
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 11, 2013 15:00:33 GMT -5
I thought so, too. But as it turns out, the OP just dredges up old, long since debunked liberal mythology about the whole escapade- the tapes were doctored, he wasn't really dressed as a pimp, acorn associates didn't cooperate, acorn associates immediately notified police even though there's no records of that in any of the incidents. Funny, none of those sources reporting on this have the stones to link to the full, unedited tapes. Oops, my bad. He *settled* so he *didn't have to go to court*. If he was convinced he would win my guess is he would have gone to court for the very reason you mention. He may be sued by others. And about the supposed uneditted tapes. Really without being able to access the original tapes and prove they are uneditted I wouldn't necessarily believe anyone who said they posted uneditted footage. . oh, i can buy the unedited tapes just fine. they are damning enough. and they show no pimp garb. in fact, if you look carefully, you can see his suitjacket cuff, when he is handing off documents. also, the unedited tape shows that the encouraging remarks had nothing to do with setting up a prostitution ring, as the edited version does. they were encouraging remarks about picking yourself up when you are down on your luck. i am starting to wonder if Paul even saw them. doubtful, imo. edit: the real problem with the unedited video was the TIMING of it. it came AFTER ACORN was defunded, if memory serves.
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 11, 2013 15:11:54 GMT -5
Paul- you are totally getting the time sequence wrong on this. ACORN was defunded and destroyed before O'Keefe released the videos. by the time that happened, the incident was well off the media radar: The California Attorney General granted immunity to O'Keefe and Giles in exchange for their raw videos shot at three California ACORN offices. Its comparison of the raw videos with the released versions found that the published videos had been heavily edited to misrepresent the workers and the situations so as to suggest criminal intent and activity.[10][11][12][13] The California report was followed by one by the U.S. Government Accountability Office, which reported there was no evidence that ACORN workers had misused government funds or participated in the criminal activities represented in the videos.[14][15] But, ACORN was effectively destroyed by then. [16]
in your version of the story, O'Keefe released these videos on his own to back himself up. in fact the opposite is true. he released them to avoid being prosecuted for slander. it is now an open secret that there was no prostitution garb, and that the video was basically a total fraud- but you continue lauding O'Keefe for his misdeeds, and standing by the BS. i can't say that i find that surprising.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2013 15:19:46 GMT -5
I've got to ask:
What does everyone think is standard "Pimp garb"?
I've seen everything from shorts and a tee to a crisp purple suit with matching purple tie. So a suit or a coat wouldn't necessarily mean that he wasn't dressed in such garb.
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Post by Tennesseer on Mar 11, 2013 15:23:03 GMT -5
I've got to ask: What does everyone think is standard "Pimp garb"? I've seen everything from shorts and a tee to a crisp purple suit with matching purple tie. So a suit or a coat wouldn't necessarily mean that he wasn't dressed in such garb.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2013 15:24:52 GMT -5
Haha....nice!
Haven't quite seen anything that atrocious....but sadly there are some that do wear stuff similar to that.
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