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Post by Sum Dum Gai on Mar 9, 2013 15:23:44 GMT -5
Not really. It's a skinny guy thing. Although until my back heals up I'm going to have to watch it or I'll get a little jiggly.
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Post by The Captain on Mar 9, 2013 15:34:02 GMT -5
But coming from someone with a very strict and small grocery budget, trying new things does not happen because we can't often afford to have there not be a meal. If we try something and it does not work, well then, what do we eat? We have gotten better, using loss leaders, shopping with a group to buy the large, discounted meat, and using coupons, but even 2 or three years ago, we would have had nothing to eat if we tried something new. Gin - I appreciate what you're saying and the prespective that I honestly have forgotten about. It's been over 20 years ago for me when things were so tight if I ruined a meal I didn't eat. I'm grateful to say that we've always been able to afford a few mistakes since then and I can understand it when you say sometimes you can't risk taking a chance.
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Post by The Captain on Mar 9, 2013 15:34:20 GMT -5
But coming from someone with a very strict and small grocery budget, trying new things does not happen because we can't often afford to have there not be a meal. If we try something and it does not work, well then, what do we eat? We have gotten better, using loss leaders, shopping with a group to buy the large, discounted meat, and using coupons, but even 2 or three years ago, we would have had nothing to eat if we tried something new. Gin - I appreciate what you're saying and the prespective that I honestly have forgotten about. It's been over 20 years ago for me when things were so tight if I ruined a meal I didn't eat. I'm grateful to say that we've always been able to afford a few mistakes since then and I can understand it when you say sometimes you can't risk taking a chance.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2013 3:32:50 GMT -5
Not really. It's a skinny guy thing. Although until my back heals up I'm going to have to watch it or I'll get a little jiggly. I wanna punch you in the face right now.
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Post by zibazinski on Mar 10, 2013 7:34:44 GMT -5
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Post by cheapskate on Mar 10, 2013 13:34:46 GMT -5
Not really. It's a skinny guy thing. Although until my back heals up I'm going to have to watch it or I'll get a little jiggly. Remember, he didn't even have enough back fat for them to sew him up easily. Must be nice to have a metabolism. I gave mine up for Lent.
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Post by zibazinski on Mar 11, 2013 8:07:41 GMT -5
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Mar 11, 2013 9:03:47 GMT -5
If we try something and it does not work, well then, what do we eat? <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p> I personally don’t really worry/fret about trying to make sure we always get “new” things into our diet as long as the things we do eat on a regular basis are healthy. For instance DH really loves apples. Yeah in a perfect world I am going to be getting him to eat all sorts of varied and strange fruits but I don’t live in a perfect world. If I only have $X to spend I’d rather spend it on the fruit I know DH will eat a cart load of than be concerned with “exposure” and have him hate it. I am lucky that the Farmer’s Market in the summer provides me with opportunities to try new things at a fairly low cost so I do get some more variety in during that time period. In the winter though we are pretty boring since I am limited to the supermarket and I am not going to pay what they want for certain items. If we were a pop and pop chips type of diet people then I would probably be much more concerned about exposing us to new things, but since we already eat healthy I am not going to fret if DH would rather go for an apple than jicama (which we have tried. Meh). An apple is still far and away better for him than junk food. I think that’s where people get tripped up when it comes to healthy eating. If you’re eating really poorly then, IMO, ANY fruit or vegetable no matter how boring it is breaking yourself out of a rut. If you got the money then go ahead and spluge on the weird/exotic stuff. If you don’t have it then spend your dollars on the healthy but familiar. Just don’t spend the dollars on junk. I think that’s where the message gets confusing for people who don’t know how to shop/cook. Even going from white rice to brown rice is a small step in the right direction and depending on your diet is a “new” thing to try.
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Post by formerroomate99 on Mar 11, 2013 10:48:55 GMT -5
When I first went out on my own (9K/year income), if I ruined a meal, I really couldn't afford not to eat it. It was probably a good 3 years before I was able to cook meals that turned out well the majority of the time. Eating bad meals didn't kill me. It wasn't pleasant, but it never occurred to me to think that good tasting meals were a consitutional right.
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Post by Phoenix84 on Mar 11, 2013 10:52:23 GMT -5
I agree, food stamps should have restrictions on what can be bought, and it should be healthy food. If you want junk, you should have to figure out a way to purchase it yourself.
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Post by Phoenix84 on Mar 11, 2013 11:00:51 GMT -5
Something else that has gotten lost in the food stamp issue is that food stamps were never intended to replace a family's food budget or to be the only money a family spends on food. They were meant to supplement what a family was already spending on food. I see so many complaints (not here necessarily, but in any media discussion of food stamps) that they don't provide enough money to feed a family. I think a lot of families might be spending money on cigarettes or some other non-essential item that could be spent on food and supplemented by food stamps. Then you get some local politician who makes a big show of "living on food stamps" for a certain period of time and lamenting how little food stamps buy and demanding that the taxpayers pony up for even more money. They act like as soon as someone starts getting food stamps, they cannot spend any other money on food and must subsist only on what they can buy with food stamps. Poppycock. *shrugs* same with social security. It was never meant to be your sole income in retirement and yet we get politicians and seniors bitching it isn't enough to cover their basic needs. Unfortunately, many think of it as a full on pension system.
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Post by Opti on Mar 11, 2013 11:20:17 GMT -5
I like Kohlrabi but I'd probably hate it cooked. I only eat it raw like cucumbers. The younger smaller ones are best - less fiberous and require less peeling too.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Mar 11, 2013 11:26:07 GMT -5
Eating bad meals didn't kill me. It wasn't pleasant, but it never occurred to me to think that good tasting meals were a consitutional right. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p> I don’t think anyone said that. I believe she was talking specifically about going out and seeking unfamiliar/new ingredients. That’s not always cost effective if you’re never going to cook with it again. I tend to avoid certain types of cuisine at home because in order to get it right I have to have umpteen ingredients I can’t always get in small amounts and are specific to that dish. It’s not cost effective if I can’t use the ingredient again and can only find it in large amounts. So to a lot of people my diet probably isn’t “varied” enough because I tend to stick to items that I can use over and over again. I also tend to stick to my own personal “acceptable” price list. I’ll try something at the Farmer’s Market that I’ll leave on the shelf at the supermarket because I refuse to pay what the supermarket wants for it. So if you see me shopping at Hy-Vee my list is going to look pretty boring compared to how I shop at the FM. We still eat healthy despite my apparent lack of “variety” in my diet and shopping cart. If you can’t afford jicama you can probably still afford apples. Get a shitload of apples and screw people who try to tell you that your diet isn’t “varied” enough and you “have to try new things”. Eating an apple is still miles away better for you than eating an oreo.
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Post by Queen of Interesting Nuts on Mar 11, 2013 11:27:55 GMT -5
Drama, you are so cute. I love how reasonable you are. Wish I knew you in real life, you are a trooper.
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Post by formerroomate99 on Mar 11, 2013 11:39:35 GMT -5
Drama, I think you and I agree. You don't need to eat a whole bunch of exotic stuff from all over the world to be healthy. I just object to the idea that one can't possibly eat anything other than processed junk on a small budget or that you'll drop over dead if you eat a bad meal. After a 12 hour day working and studying, the last thing I wanted to do was spend an hour making a meal that would turn out badly 90% of the time. But for me, learning to cook healthy on a budget was a priority, both because of the immediate financial and health benefits, and because I knew it was a handy skill to have.
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Post by swamp on Mar 11, 2013 11:41:38 GMT -5
When i was in law school, sometimes it was more cost effective to get the slice of pizza and a drink for $2 than cook dinner.
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Post by formerroomate99 on Mar 11, 2013 11:46:43 GMT -5
When i was in law school, sometimes it was more cost effective to get the slice of pizza and a drink for $2 than cook dinner. When I was in grad school, the slice of pizza was $3 and the drink was another $2 and I could make a baked potato with cheese, a bowl of oatmeal, or any number of cheap meals for under $0.50.
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Post by swamp on Mar 11, 2013 11:49:21 GMT -5
When i was in law school, sometimes it was more cost effective to get the slice of pizza and a drink for $2 than cook dinner. When I was in grad school, the slice of pizza was $3 and the drink was another $2 and I could make a baked potato with cheese, a bowl of oatmeal, or any number of cheap meals for under $0.50. You just need to know where to look for the specials. Wings at one place were $.10 each. $1 and that was dinner.
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Post by 973beachbum on Mar 11, 2013 11:50:43 GMT -5
When i was in law school, sometimes it was more cost effective to get the slice of pizza and a drink for $2 than cook dinner. When I was in grad school, the slice of pizza was $3 and the drink was another $2 and I could make a baked potato with cheese, a bowl of oatmeal, or any number of cheap meals for under $0.50. If I ate just a bowl of oatmeal for dinner I would be looking at you like a member of the Donner party pretty soon.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Mar 11, 2013 11:52:40 GMT -5
you'll drop over dead if you eat a bad meal.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p> I gave DH and myself food poisoning at least twice before I learned how to cook properly. So actually it IS quite possible to drop dead from a bad meal.
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Post by 973beachbum on Mar 11, 2013 11:52:56 GMT -5
When I was in grad school, the slice of pizza was $3 and the drink was another $2 and I could make a baked potato with cheese, a bowl of oatmeal, or any number of cheap meals for under $0.50. You just need to know where to look for the specials. Wings at one place were $.10 each. $1 and that was dinner. There are a couple of places near me that used to have wing and Taco nights. The wings were 0.10 cents each and 3 tacos for a dollar maybe 20 years ago. I think today it is more like 0.25 cents a wing and 1 taco for a dollar. If you are cute though I'm sure you could get someone to buy you a few wings and a beer.
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Post by swamp on Mar 11, 2013 11:54:48 GMT -5
<br><br>I wasn't above accepting a free meal.................
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Post by Opti on Mar 11, 2013 11:59:49 GMT -5
In the end I think it is all what works for you personally. I wouldn't want a baked potato or oatmeal for dinner.
Sometimes just getting something is so much easier than all the effort to make something. (I do not have a microwave or a crockpot BTW.)
Swamp's post made me think about the hotdog and beer specials at a Princeton brewpub during baseball season. $2 for the hotdog and $1 for the beer.
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Post by The Captain on Mar 11, 2013 12:20:53 GMT -5
Just want to clarify that I don't believe you have to eat exotic stuff from all over the world in order to be healthy. I totally get that trying new things on a limited budget may backfire if you can't stand the taste.
I was actually just relating my case where I was not exposed to much beyond canned green beans, corn, carrots, cabbage and tomatoes, cauliflower and broccoli as veggies while growing up. I didn't have asparagus, artichokes or brussels sprouts until I was in college or even later. It was eye opening the variety that is out there.
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Post by swamp on Mar 11, 2013 12:22:56 GMT -5
My mom used to serve asparagus, brussels sprouts and other "weird" veggies, and I thought I hated them. I had no idea they could be cooked any other way than boiling the bejesus out of them.
Roasted asparagus and brussels sprouts are actually quite tasty.
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Post by 973beachbum on Mar 11, 2013 12:33:53 GMT -5
My mom used to serve asparagus, brussels sprouts and other "weird" veggies, and I thought I hated them. I had no idea they could be cooked any other way than boiling the bejesus out of them. Roasted asparagus and brussels sprouts are actually quite tasty. DH's parents and grandparents used to grow their own corn. They would harvest it and promptly cut if off the cob and then boil the bejesus out of them before "creaming" them and then cooking them in a pressure cooker for another hour of two. Grandmom used to say every time we went up and bought corn from a farm stand how sad it was that you just can't get corn the way she used to make it anymore.
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Post by formerroomate99 on Mar 11, 2013 14:19:11 GMT -5
When I was in grad school, the slice of pizza was $3 and the drink was another $2 and I could make a baked potato with cheese, a bowl of oatmeal, or any number of cheap meals for under $0.50. If I ate just a bowl of oatmeal for dinner I would be looking at you like a member of the Donner party pretty soon. Yeah, it generally took 2-3 baked potatoes to fill me, but since a 10 lb bag cost me between $1 and $5 and a 1 lb brick of cheese was under $2 (Aldi's), I could still eat my fill for way less than I would spend on pizza.
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Post by tloonya on Mar 11, 2013 14:19:49 GMT -5
/ $100 for food for a week is not difficult to do. You can feed 3-4 on that with a far better diet than cookie dough and Kraft dinners./
Exactly! Considering you are not working and having all the time on your hands to cook HOME MADE meal! Much harder when you are working 24/7 and all you can do is to grab whopper on the way home.
So wealfare people could be healthy. If they weren't lazy!I work 50 hours a week and my commute is 20 hours. I spend 2-3 hours during the weekend total shopping, meal planning and doing some prep work for the week. My weekend meals take longer to make because I plan it that way. Weeknight meals take 30-45 minutes (including any final prep and cook time) and quite a few take less than 20 minutes. You can get home at 6 and easily have dinner on the table between 6:30 and 7.
Now if you know people who are working/commuting more than 70 hours a week and are on food stamps then I stand corrected, but somehow I don't thinks that's happening in a majority of the cases. It takes some effort, but really not a lot once you practice a bit. Except you should be even eating after 6pm! This is why we are getting fatter and slower. Dinners after 6! What time do you go to bed? If your dinner is at 7pm (start) and finished at 7:30 (most likely 8pm) - you have to be awake to a midnight to digest it.
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Post by zibazinski on Mar 11, 2013 15:13:46 GMT -5
I don't know anyone who eats dinner at 5-5:30 pm. Normal is between 6-6:30.
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Post by zibazinski on Mar 11, 2013 15:14:46 GMT -5
That could be why you shouldn't carb or heavy carb at dinner time.
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