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Post by The Captain on Mar 4, 2013 17:34:19 GMT -5
$45K Sorry to hear about the seizures. I honestly kind of surprised you aren't being kept in the hospital given the size of the wound, I had pictured it much smaller when you said golf-ball size. I didn't want to scare you before you had your first dressing changed, but I've been through that exact same thing with a large infection in my back with drain tubes and everything & I've been through natural childbirth. Natural childbirth was less painful than getting the dressings changed & I was on morphine when they did mine because I was kept in the hospital the whole time. I was super lucky & got mine changed every 8 hours . Given all the nasty MRSA's and other stuff floating around hospitals he's better off at home if at all possible. Far less chance of picking up a nasty secondary infection.
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Post by Colleenz on Mar 4, 2013 17:37:23 GMT -5
They sent me home with a large open infection from my c section. The doctor said I was safer with my natural fluara.
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Post by Colleenz on Mar 4, 2013 17:41:42 GMT -5
And as gross as it sounds, a healthy healing wound should look like juicy raw meat. time for dinner!
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Mar 4, 2013 18:51:32 GMT -5
The hospital is the worst place you can be with an open wound. The goal is to get the hell out of there ASAP, so you don't pick up any of the really nasty bugs that live there.
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Post by Angel! on Mar 4, 2013 19:45:22 GMT -5
Good point about MRSA, that wasn't really an issue when I had mine like it is today.
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Post by seriousthistime on Mar 4, 2013 20:27:23 GMT -5
I'm guessing $20K for the consult, surgeon, surgery, pre-op exam and tests, and so on -- basically everything that you'd pay for events leading up to, including, and after a normal surgery and recovery.
I'm guessing another $10K for the seizure-related issues, testing, ER, and so on. That's $10K so far. If this goes on, I reserve the right to increase my estimate.
I just had soft tissue surgery (tendons, ligaments, breaking up scar tissue, removing minor hardware put in after the last surgery). It came to $13K. I was home within 2 hours. My drugs, which I had to buy beforehand, came to about $400 on top of that. It was done on a Thursday and I was back at work the following Monday.
I once had a cyst about the size of a marble excised from the area between my shoulder and my neck. It was done in the dermatologist's office and stitched up. When I went back, on schedule according to when he told me to, he told his nurse to remove the stitches. She had a horrible time doing it because the skin had grown over some of them (she said; it's not a place where I could easily look and see for myself). Several times she left the office and I could hear arguing through the walls, and he was telling her she HAD to do it and she was saying she just couldn't. He won the argument. She really had to dig around to get them all. I have a divot in that spot now. I don't know if it's from his surgery or her stitch removal. Whenever people see it, they ask, 'What on earth happened there?"
Maybe I need a back fat injection. I have some I think I can spare; no need to locate donor fat.
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Post by GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl on Mar 4, 2013 22:17:36 GMT -5
Lots of guesses out there.
Was the surgeon a dermatologist? A plastic surgeon? If not a plastic surgeon, was he/she assisted by a plastic surgeon?
Was your pre-op room private or semi-private?
Lacking that info, I'm going to say that since it's California and the state is bankrupt and they are slashing state services left and right and the costs of Medicare and un-insured, undocumented illegal aliens is killing hospital budgets, they have to make money on those who *can* pay (either out of pocket or through an insurer). So, I say the surgery will be billed initially at $19,500. Follow-up wound care will cost another $5,000. Treatment/evaluations for the seizures will cost $6300. Total: $30,800.
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Post by Sum Dum Gai on Mar 5, 2013 0:48:15 GMT -5
General surgeon.
Nope. I'm going to have a big gnarly scar.
I'm not even sure I'd call it semi-private. It's like those ER areas where there are several beds along one wall each with their own curtain walls, and a nurses station in the middle of the room. The recovery room was several beds in an open room with no curtain walls.
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Post by Peace Of Mind on Mar 5, 2013 0:52:03 GMT -5
Well, what's the answer?! Who won? And what are you going to bless them with. Will it cause blindness?
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Post by Sum Dum Gai on Mar 5, 2013 0:54:08 GMT -5
Beats me. The surgery was on Friday and the seizure visit was Saturday. I probably won't see a bill for a couple weeks at least.
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Post by Jaguar on Mar 5, 2013 1:04:02 GMT -5
Oh geez this is just as bad as Thyme's guess the band game she had on EE. I say $103,000 for everything.
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Post by weltschmerz on Mar 5, 2013 1:54:00 GMT -5
Dark, are you sure it was a seizure? You weren't doing the Harlem Shake?
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Post by Sum Dum Gai on Mar 5, 2013 13:23:36 GMT -5
Loop didn't put that video on FB did she Primary care doc says it probably wasn't a seizure. Some people twitch when they pass out. She thinks that's what happened. She wasn't real happy with the nurse. The nurse practitioner at my doctor's office changed the dressing yesterday. Everything was fine. No vertigo, no cold sweats, no nothing. Doc wants me to go in and have them do the dressing changes for a few days to make sure everything goes alright.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Mar 5, 2013 14:48:13 GMT -5
Dark...
After surgery, there is a 3 month global period following surgery where your follow up care should be covered by the surgical fee. Make sure they know you know about this. You should not be charged for any office visits to this doctor.
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Post by jeep108 on Mar 5, 2013 15:11:29 GMT -5
Feel better.
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Post by Bob Ross on Mar 5, 2013 17:11:14 GMT -5
Sh*t like this is why I prefer DIY surgeries.
This is nothing that a sharp xacto knife, a bottle of Everclear, and a stick to bite down on couldn't solve.
Net cost: about $15.
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Post by GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl on Mar 5, 2013 17:37:19 GMT -5
Sh*t like this is why I prefer DIY surgeries. This is nothing that a sharp xacto knife, a bottle of Everclear, and a stick to bite down on couldn't solve. Net cost: about $15. ROFL. If that was true, I guess I could have done my own C-Section at home AND DSs' circumcisions, LOL.
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Post by Angel! on Mar 5, 2013 17:46:26 GMT -5
Sh*t like this is why I prefer DIY surgeries. This is nothing that a sharp xacto knife, a bottle of Everclear, and a stick to bite down on couldn't solve. Net cost: about $15. I tried that once. Then things started going black & everything started spinning so I ended up on the floor. I am a light weight when it comes to DIY surgery.
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Post by weltschmerz on Mar 5, 2013 17:48:14 GMT -5
Sh*t like this is why I prefer DIY surgeries. This is nothing that a sharp xacto knife, a bottle of Everclear, and a stick to bite down on couldn't solve. Net cost: about $15. You forgot the needle you pass through a flame and some thread.
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Post by mmhmm on Mar 5, 2013 17:50:35 GMT -5
So glad to hear the dressing changes are not causing problems anymore, dark. I'm sure that was pretty scary for you, and for Loop.
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Post by mmhmm on Mar 5, 2013 17:52:14 GMT -5
I knew a young intern, many years ago, who decided to do his own vasectomy. He ended up in the ER ... half done.
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Post by Angel! on Mar 5, 2013 18:19:01 GMT -5
I knew a young intern, many years ago, who decided to do his own vasectomy. He ended up in the ER ... half done. That is disturbing.
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Post by mmhmm on Mar 5, 2013 18:26:22 GMT -5
LOL, AngelD! It was disturbing to him, too! Very disturbing. He used the toilet as his "operating table". I don't know all the details (thankfully), but he had to call a friend to come get him and transport his silly arse to the ER. I'd have loved to be a fly on the wall!
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Post by Jaguar on Mar 5, 2013 18:30:25 GMT -5
Dark heal up really soon.
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Post by Sum Dum Gai on Mar 5, 2013 19:09:44 GMT -5
I wouldn't do my own vasectomy, but after seeing mine done, I could probably do one for somebody else. It's a pretty straightforward procedure. The incision is so small you don't even need to stitch it.
Lidocaine Xacto knife Needle nose pliers Soldering gun or woodburning deal Butterfly bandages or super glue
Apply lidocaine to front of scrotum. Make small incision in same area. Grab a vas with the pliers, pull through the incision, cut, crush and cauterize the top (not the side still attached to the testicle), repeat on other vas. Close with butterfly bandage or super glue. Easy peasy.
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Post by midjd on Mar 5, 2013 19:33:15 GMT -5
That sounds disgusting, and thanks a lot for the mental image, but I'm kind of jealous you could at least see what was going on. Whenever I have a doctor in that area all I can see is the ceiling, and the instruments are so loud and clanking... it always makes me think of Transformers. No clue what is going on.
Same in your case, I guess. Have you seen your back hole yet?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2013 19:36:53 GMT -5
Ok, after reading this now I'M SPINNING....(ok, kinda kidding, but ooohhhh....not really...swooooosh...)
I do hope you continue to feel better, dark.
....think I'll just go over here and lay down for a minute...
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Post by Sum Dum Gai on Mar 5, 2013 21:48:44 GMT -5
Only pictures. The first one looked kind of unreal. It was too clean somehow. There was the hole in the skin and muscle showing underneath. That was it. Barely any blood, the cut was really straight since it was a surgical cut so the edges of the skin weren't frayed or torn. It was really unnatural looking.
I had her take another pic today and it looks more like you'd expect now. It's starting to heal a bit so it looks more medically.
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Post by Angel! on Mar 6, 2013 11:54:54 GMT -5
You were so smart to take pics. No one ever thought to do that with mine & I never saw what it looked like. I know my spine was visible, so that would have been cool to see.
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