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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 15, 2013 18:21:07 GMT -5
Apparently challenging Virgil is uncivilized. Challenging Virgil isn't what makes me uncivilized... ok, you got me curious now.
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 15, 2013 18:23:11 GMT -5
PDA at school. What may fly in liberal communities doesn't fly in areas that aren't. Not like he didn't know what would happen if he flaunted his lifestyle. Trouble is, his girls paid the price not him. PDA? Public Displays of Affection like hand holding, arm around the other's shoulder, a sloppy kiss exchanging spit, humping the other's rear end in front of the students and teachers. That kind of PDAs.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 15, 2013 18:24:57 GMT -5
If no mistake have you made, yet losing you are ... a different game you should play.
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ok. there are some really funny posts on this thread. laughing, i am.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 15, 2013 18:25:51 GMT -5
Public Displays of Affection like hand holding, arm around the other's shoulder, a sloppy kiss exchanging spit, humping the other's rear end in front of the students and teachers. That kind of PDAs. oh, you mean having fun and developing/developing understanding of relationships? yeah, we gotta stop that.
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Post by zibazinski on Feb 15, 2013 18:27:42 GMT -5
Is the Yoda speak supposed to be funny?
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 15, 2013 18:32:41 GMT -5
Oh...my.... goodness. I am laughing so hard I'm crying. That was priceless. there are some exchanges that are so glorious that all the gold on earth could not buy them.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 15, 2013 18:34:43 GMT -5
...I agree with what you said in the other thread, too... fwiw... I'm actually curious about this. For the whole thread funsnowbird basically does drive bys, quoting, leaving cryptic messages which seem to indicate everyone else is wrong/stupid, and refusing to clarify.... But somehow the rest of us are name callers? Stupid liked my own post again while trying to edit...is there away o unlike..? click like again.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 15, 2013 18:37:32 GMT -5
clearly, Texas only wants to instill a love of authority. i am open to the idea that this may be a party-wide problem. Yeah, you wouldn't want people on one party voting for your party because they believe the other party is just a party that hates women, minorities, the poor, Santa Claus, and everything else....no problem with trying to prevent questioning from the left at all. I'm not sure what's up with the whole Texas thing, but I have met more than few teachers who mistake critical thinking with agreeing with their own views. a critically thinking student could argue that. one without critical thinking skills couldn't.I also think there is an age to consider, as younger kids do not necessarily have the skills to question what a teacher says is or isn't true. Critical thinking is something that can be developed over time once the child is old enough to actually be able to participate and not just regurgitate. agree completely!
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 15, 2013 18:39:30 GMT -5
I have too. It's a wonderful exercise in learning how to mouth the right thing while thinking something else. It's a skill that has served me well. swamp, for it's brevity, this was a beautiful post. however, i doubt many come away from that experience with that lesson.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 15, 2013 18:41:33 GMT -5
I'll go along with you, BTDT, on the "you're nuts" comment. However, if someone is opining on how children should be taught, raised, or dealt with, it's within reason to inquire if that person has children (which was the question - "not how many kids do you have"). If you make a statement about yourself and someone tells you the statement is untrue, you have a right to make it clear there are those who know what you've said about yourself is true. If you get too selective in finding wrongdoing, others are going to notice. There was quite a bit of bickering and it wasn't one-sided, by any means. ...well, you and I will have to disagree on a "resume needed" approach to this discussion... I read Virgil's response to DJ's wanting his teen to "question his authority" as more of a broad-strokes comment about parental authority in general... yes, my mind was in macro-mode, not micro-... and if there's some extra-thread info between them (much like crafty and I just referenced) then I would have no point-of-reference as to why DJ (or others) might take that personally... my son can question me at any level of authority. but if he really wants to argue that i should let him go out drinking or juggle loaded guns, it is going to be a very short discussion. after all, parents have certain legal AND moral responsibilities to their kids, and they really can't be effectively argued against.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 15, 2013 18:44:01 GMT -5
Hey, I could care less what he or she does but when it affects innocents, then I do. I find some gay people to be very selfish and self centered because its all about them and their rights. To hell with anyone else or their rights. My mom always said if you're comfortable with your sexuality, you don't need to flaunt it or shout it from the roof tops. Those that do, aren't really comfortable and wish to prove something. Pretty much. Like I said before, there's a militant segment of gay that's more politics and lifestyle than just gay. there are militant heterosexuals, as well. the pervy teachers that are leering at their students. disgusting.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2013 18:45:15 GMT -5
You used the word belief like nine times there, dude. Is that how proofs usually work? oh man. i feel a crush coming on. "Belief" is the mother of "Prejudice", the sister of Superstition, and the child of Gullibility.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 15, 2013 18:45:23 GMT -5
We can try. Are there any representatives of "critical thinking is innate and cannot be taught" left? Or is it just "don't indoctrinate my kids" and "let's teach kids to not be indoctrinated" still standing? I live in a very conservative area (Deep South) and there seem to be two main reasons people home school their kids around here - the primary reason being that they don't want their kids 'exposed' to any ideas that don't fit their religious beliefs. One mom told me she wouldn't allow her son to read anything except non-fiction because fiction 'wasn't true'. and yet the Bible is the unvarnished source of all reality. amazing.The other reason is that parents want to give their kids a good education - but those people are a lot less in number then the ones who want to make sure their kids never hear anything 'unchrisitian.' i can well believe that. good post.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 15, 2013 18:45:58 GMT -5
oh man. i feel a crush coming on. "Belief" is the mother of "Prejudice", the sister of Superstition, and the child of Gullibility. i feel another one coming on.....
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 15, 2013 18:47:21 GMT -5
and there's a militant segment of Christian that thinks every law in this land needs to reflect the Bible. what's your point? there's extreme opinions in every group, not just LGBT Yes, and they want their kids OUT of the government run schools, they don't want to take over the schools, and force their doctrine down your kid's throats. i am betting they would have no problem being in a government run Christian school. agree or disagree?
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 15, 2013 18:49:14 GMT -5
Yes, and they want their kids OUT of the government run schools, they don't want to take over the schools, and force their doctrine down your kid's throats. Oh please, I nearly hurt myself laughing!! Texas buys more text books than any other state, and so Texas gets more input than any other state into what those text books say. There has been a big controversy over the Texas Board of Education forcing modifications to textbooks removing Darwinism and evolution, modifying history (voting not to include any references to hispanics in Texas history) and rewriting history to say that the founding fathers were creating a Christian government. They removed the part that talks about seperation between church and state. Dentists and realtors making decisions about what they want the history books, biology books, and social studies books to say, and because Texas is such a big buyer of books, these books become standard textbooks outside of Texas, too. "After the vote, Ms. Knight said, “The social conservatives have perverted accurate history to fulfill their own agenda.†" www.nytimes.com/2010/03/13/education/13texas.html?_r=0
Conservatives absolutely want to take over schools and force their doctrine down your kid's throats.
Really, Paul, sometimes you're just TOO funny. it only took 665 posts for this to come up. well done, happy. grits (and i know you didn't write this post)- this is the answer to your question about why i care about what Texas does. i didn't want to mention it, because it is kindof a whole OTHER level of having this conversation. but trust me when i say this: what happens in Texas most certainly does NOT stay in Texas.
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 15, 2013 18:49:32 GMT -5
"Belief" is the mother of "Prejudice", the sister of Superstition, and the child of Gullibility. i feel another one coming on..... Please-no PDAs.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 15, 2013 18:50:27 GMT -5
i feel another one coming on..... Please-no PDAs. sorry...ahem. please continue. (drinks glass of water)
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 15, 2013 18:54:17 GMT -5
ok....that took an entire hour to catch up on....but we are good, now.
i have replies for a lot of you on page 23/24. if you have time, please honor me with a reply.
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Post by billisonboard on Feb 15, 2013 19:08:30 GMT -5
... I also think there is an age to consider, as younger kids do not necessarily have the skills to question what a teacher says is or isn't true. Critical thinking is something that can be developed over time once the child is old enough to actually be able to participate and not just regurgitate. agree completely! I think that some early opportunities are important also. Much like Love and Logic (http://www.loveandlogic.com/pdfs/sharingcontrol.pdf) talks about teaching young children how to make choices by giving them controlled choices: "Are you having peas or carrots as your vegetable tonight?", I think you can give younger people opportunities to do "critical thinking" to prep them for more open thinking later. For example: "What things should you think about when you are deciding which color of paper to use for your art project?"
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Post by chiver78 on Feb 15, 2013 20:05:31 GMT -5
nothing honorable about that video reply, Tenn.
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 16, 2013 12:06:58 GMT -5
DJ-I like that site. The bad lip reading of Beyonce singing was hilarious.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 16, 2013 12:24:08 GMT -5
DJ-I like that site. The bad lip reading of Beyonce singing was hilarious. my top three favourites: the 2012 1st presidential debate Beard With Glue Rick Santorum
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 16, 2013 12:42:27 GMT -5
I bookmarked the site after watching the Beyonce video. I will check out the others you suggested.
The videos remind me of a segment of a show that was on probably 25-30 years ago. It was a spoof show-I cannot remember now the name of the show. The segment I remember being the funniest was one involving Mary Martin and Nancy Reagan. Mary Martin was singing on an outdoor stage to a group of seniors. Nancy was seated on the stage where Martin was singing. In the background you could hear Martin singing but more pronounced was Reagan supposedly humming along off-key to Martin's song.
It was one of those "you had to be there' moments to think it was funny. But it was hilarious.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 16, 2013 12:58:20 GMT -5
I bookmarked the site after watching the Beyonce video. I will check out the others you suggested. The videos remind me of a segment of a show that was on probably 25-30 years ago. It was a spoof show-I cannot remember now the name of the show. The segment I remember being the funniest was one involving Mary Martin and Nancy Reagan. Mary Martin was singing on an outdoor stage to a group of seniors. Nancy was seated on the stage where Martin was singing. In the background you could hear Martin singing but more pronounced was Reagan supposedly humming along off-key to Martin's song. It was one of those "you had to be there' moments to think it was funny. But it was hilarious. i don't bandy this term about regularly, but i really think that the BLR people are editing genuises. they not only rewrite the pieces, but then they get the voiceover and musical talent to back up their bizarre interpretations. it really is beyond mere spectacle. it is meticulous, detailed, and phenomenal work. i think the best illustration of it is Beard With Glue. where the lyric "who would you pick in a bear fight in the night" comes in, the original video is REVERSED to create a bridge with new lyrics, which ends in the chorus. during that sequence, they are lip-synching to REVERSED LIP MOVEMENTS. it is hard for me to even IMAGINE doing that, let alone pulling it off- but it is seamless and convincing. the original piece is the insipid pop tune "You're Beautiful" by James Blunt. sending up that piece is sweet justice. i actually like the BLR version better. well, i could lose the word actually. it is little surprise, given my taste for the unusual.
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