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Post by jarhead1976 on Feb 6, 2011 10:42:13 GMT -5
They will. Against Israel! Then end game. Israel will then solve the whole middle east problem! Can the US Learn from past mistakes in the Middle East? I doubt it PI since we supported al-Qaida and Osoma Bin Laden while Russia occupied Afghanistan. Russia pulled out we pulled out our support . No support, economy collapsed.
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Post by privateinvestor on Feb 6, 2011 10:46:07 GMT -5
You can bet al Qaida is watching what is going on in Egypt so they can become more involved....and will the Muslim Brotherhood and al Qaida join forces??
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Post by jarhead1976 on Feb 6, 2011 13:31:46 GMT -5
Safeharbor37.....says... "The point is that the primary interest of America and the American people is the primary interest of the US Government. If we can spread the wealth, good. If not, that's OK too."
Your kidding right? If you think Government and American are the same than you are confused!
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Post by safeharbor37 on Feb 6, 2011 14:43:04 GMT -5
We "nationalists" believe that the US government's primary duty is to serve the interest of the American People [US Citizens]. What's so hard to understand about that?
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Post by deziloooooo on Feb 6, 2011 15:02:12 GMT -5
We "nationalists" believe that the US government's primary duty is to serve the interest of the American People [US Citizens]. What's so hard to understand about that? think the one your addressing feel negative thoughts about the one leading us now...methinks thinking narrow thooughts, it happens with all leaders, you up for my forty pages thoughts about the last one?
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Post by billisonboard on Feb 6, 2011 15:03:36 GMT -5
We "nationalists" believe that the US government's primary duty is to serve the interest of the American People [US Citizens]. What's so hard to understand about that? So therefore we hold elections in which the American People determine what that interest is. What's so hard to understand abut that?
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Post by safeharbor37 on Feb 6, 2011 16:10:53 GMT -5
Nothing. We get the government we deserve.
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Post by ugonow on Feb 6, 2011 17:09:17 GMT -5
We get the government we deserve. And we must do whatever we can to make sure other countries do not. We need to oust the leaders that we don't like,and support those we do with force.
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Post by jarhead1976 on Feb 6, 2011 23:01:07 GMT -5
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 6, 2011 23:56:57 GMT -5
jarhead1976-make another post like the above (now deleted) and you will find yourself on a several days vacation.
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Post by jarhead1976 on Feb 7, 2011 8:29:33 GMT -5
We "nationalists" believe that the US government's primary duty is to serve the interest of the American People [US Citizens]. What's so hard to understand about that? .................Top-level federal parasites continue to build their wealth while the rest of the American people suffer financially. Congressional income is up 16% while the average head of household is down 3%.....That's your nationalist government at work for you. Get a clue open your eyes and you will see they have no interest in you what so ever. This is way off topic but it needs addressed. Please Safe research first before you make such claims ! Your right Tenn. no excuses! I apologize
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Post by jarhead1976 on Feb 7, 2011 9:13:11 GMT -5
You can bet al Qaida is watching what is going on in Egypt so they can become more involved....and will the Muslim Brotherhood and al Qaida join forces?? Yes I believe they (MB) will put on the face of moderation while planning the next terrorist attack with the aid al'Qaida
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Post by safeharbor37 on Feb 7, 2011 12:42:40 GMT -5
jarhead1976, Re: Reply #46
There is really no reason for me to research my opinions. I already know what they are. What I believe in is not necessarily what I find practiced, particularly in Washington DC. That doesn't affect what I believe. I do believe that I should practice what I believe and also vote accordingly. My candidate doesn't always win. I see many problems with our representatives in Washington, but I genuinely believe that we get the representation we deserve. Not that I deserve ~ but, what we deserve. In most cases we get better representation than we deserve ~ but selfish, self-centered and ignorant people can't realize that because it would require that they take responsibility for themselves.
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Post by jarhead1976 on Feb 7, 2011 13:15:46 GMT -5
Safeharbor37.... Ideals and believes are not the same as the reality we face today. What we discuss is not on topic with this thread Respects Sir.
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Post by safeharbor37 on Feb 7, 2011 13:21:04 GMT -5
Ideals and beliefs are never the same as reality. It is our job to bring reality more nearly into line with our Ideals. We'll never succeed, but if we give up, we're done. [In fact we're probably better off that we never succeed, because everyone's ideals are a little different ~ we have to practice a little tolerance] Respects back to you.
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Post by privateinvestor on Feb 7, 2011 13:21:51 GMT -5
Don't forget the Muslim Brotherhood is an Islamic Fundamentalist Organization based on Sharia Law however they have chapters in the Middle East, Europe and the USA ......but are they aligned with Islamic Terrorists?? That is the question that has been posed to the White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs, and he refused to comment. So now the congress will probably hold hearings on this subject would be my best guess??
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Post by jarhead1976 on Feb 7, 2011 13:32:54 GMT -5
More good young men and women heading into the middle east. Marines deploy to Egypt. More Christan's killed by Islamic extremist there. One more mess going to cost us the best our country has.
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Post by privateinvestor on Feb 7, 2011 13:39:14 GMT -5
Hamas, Hezballah, Muslim Brotherhood, al Qaeda, have one thing in common they all want to see Israel wiped off the face of the earth.....and anyone who supports Israel is on their target list...
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Post by deziloooooo on Feb 7, 2011 14:57:19 GMT -5
Hamas, Hezballah, Muslim Brotherhood, al Qaeda, have one thing in common they all want to see Israel wiped off the face of the earth.....and anyone who supports Israel is on their target list... ---------------------------------------------------------------- Your correct there..agree.
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Post by jarhead1976 on Feb 8, 2011 13:26:27 GMT -5
MB in the news everywhere. Anyone not familiar with Sharia law should make an effort to educate themselves to the moderate (2) face of Terrorism.
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Post by b2r on Feb 9, 2011 19:46:21 GMT -5
Gingrich A Mortal Enemy To Our Civilization: Now Matthews Attacks Newt For Muslim Brotherhood
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2011 20:01:39 GMT -5
These terrorist coddlers are going to get a lot of people killed before it is over.
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Post by vonnie6200 on Feb 9, 2011 20:08:43 GMT -5
MB in the news everywhere. Anyone not familiar with Sharia law should make an effort to educate themselves to the moderate (2) face of Terrorism. Especially if you are female!
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Post by privateinvestor on Feb 11, 2011 12:03:38 GMT -5
Israel is worried about the peace treaty with Egypt but they have to watching what role the Muslim Brotherhood will play in the transition and democratic elections if there are free and democratic elections in September of this year.
You have to believe Ahmadinajab is worried about his power in Iran if the Iranians decide to revolt again or in Yemen, Jordan or Syria..??
Hamas has Palestine, Hezbullah has Lebanon and now if the Muslim Brotherhood gets Egypt; that is going to have Israel in a bad place..IMHO
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2011 12:50:55 GMT -5
Hamas is financed by Iran, isn't it? Hezbollah by Lebanon, and both are offshoots of the MB, if I remember correctly? Yeah, looking bad for Israel right now.
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Post by ed1066 on Feb 11, 2011 13:10:58 GMT -5
Based on the anti-Israel rhetoric that comes from the left wing which currently controls the US, not to mention Obama's repeated snubs and undermining of Netanyahu and his government, I would say that's exactly the outcome they were looking for...there's no surprise here. Obama, Clinton and their ilk have been very open about their disdain for Israel...and it's reflected in the anti-Israel sentiments of most of the left wing...
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Post by deziloooooo on Feb 13, 2011 1:01:41 GMT -5
Based on the anti-Israel rhetoric that comes from the left wing which currently controls the US, not to mention Obama's repeated snubs and undermining of Netanyahu and his government, I would say that's exactly the outcome they were looking for...there's no surprise here. Obama, Clinton and their ilk have been very open about their disdain for Israel...and it's reflected in the anti-Israel sentiments of most of the left wing... So many here are telling me , just a post ago, the left is out the right is in..wish you all would get your stories straight.. Disdain? I don't see disdain...The one thing I have a question on is ,well one of the questions anyway, remember I told you support for Israel but questions.. The apartments around Jueuselum. Granted they PROBABLY will end up in a final settlement on the Israeli side but they are still technically part of the things to be bargained over..which means you give us this we give you that..but when it becomes a" feit accompli " that is a card taken off the table..and you take a card off and another and another... It seems the Israeli's like the feeling of complete control..a little face in the dirt by the foot is not bad too, leaves the other party with out much pride left..not a neat way to negotiate and it is obviouse and when called out on it..to you thats disdain. To me calling it like it is. The Israeli's don't care for anyone calling them out so..anti semetic, yadda, yadda...there are a lot of questions I have ..not saying there isn't a logicle understanding answer , but I never see answers to them. By the way, it's the PA they are negotiating with, West bank for now, not Hamas, Gaza. Israeli's do have a problem..there are elections scheduled for Septembner , Abbas is getting old..one of the few Palastinians who Israeli's would talk to, who can and does meet with the President high US officials. He wants to retire, not young , could die, not sure he's even runningin September. There has been talk of by Palastinians, Abbas, , because it's not going anywhere , negotiations, and the nibbling away by the Israelis. a little here, a little there, by Palastinian's thinking, forget the negotitions. Forget the two state solution, why not let time takes it's toll, a one state solution. Let the Israeli Arabs, all citizens of Israel just do their thing..propagate. With in a number of years the population of the State will be majority Arab..not doing away with the state, just as a Jewish State, another Lebonan, they then have have the vote. Your not going to suggest they , Israelis, are going to take away the vote from their citizens, deport many of them to get the #'s right, possible remember the German solution.. US going to come to their aid? How? We are all of a sudden going to say suspending voting privaledges is fine, American public is going to go along with that. You can forcebly deport legal citizens just because they are Arabs, and lets not even contemplate the sick third one I put up there. Help me out ed..what do you think might be the solution? It's happening, they are breeding as we speak, propaagting, in fact it is a concern already discussed in israel. They are saying 25/35 years, take afew either way ..that's like tomorrow my friend.
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Post by ed1066 on Feb 14, 2011 1:16:39 GMT -5
Sorry, but the PA is legally governed by Hamas, whose national charter calls for the destruction of the state of Israel through jihad and the death of all Jews worldwide. Fatah on the West Bank only has an influential role, they are not the legal governing body. The Palestianians chose to elect a terrorist organization to govern them, and they will need to live with the consequences of that decision. By the way, Fatah is not much better, having been founded by Yasser Arafat, who was the father of the airplane hijack attack and a repugnant anti-Semite and terrorist in his own right...this is who you cast your lot in with? Pretty disgusting...
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Post by deziloooooo on Feb 14, 2011 1:41:27 GMT -5
What do you mean legally ed ...they won the election but if they have no control over the PA...so what. No Western State recognizes them, the US does not recognize them, the Egyptians so far are against them, and on and on. Iran recognizes and supports them but you keep coming back to is legalized governed that means control, they are not in control , they are enemies as of right now.
To be honest I don't think your really serious in a discussion and a real honest exchange of ideas. I believe it's more important to you to some how be making points as a kid does in a game then really exchange ideas and as your agenda of "Obama sucks because I said so" , the same goes to all liberals are anti Semitic and you know my answer..basically Mashoogana, and heres why..Jews yada , yada and you carrying on with the idea that PA/Hamas are the same ..PA is controlled by Hamas and yada, yada, it's just your having fun...to bad, still can have fun here but post with better intent. Some here might really want to understand what is and what isn't and the more misinformation you put up the worse you serve your cyber friends. Those who are interested in just fun and fluff and nothing wrong with that , usually spend time at EE..those who want fun but a bit more, usually here, and your misinformation for what ever reason, your idea of a lark or to make points and to be a irritant...doesn't serve any one well, even yourself.
If you are really interested in reading a fascinating article of the whole what was, now and what may be , go to the "Egyptian thread " I just posted a link..it makes great reading. Might find as interesting as I did. With that said , I am sure you won't and are more comfortable with . Obama sucks because ...yada,yada..
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Post by deziloooooo on Feb 14, 2011 2:03:15 GMT -5
Just saw this line of yours..have to answer..darn want to go to sleep.. "By the way, Fatah is not much better, having been founded by Yasser Arafat, who was the father of the airplane hijack attack and a repugnant anti-Semite and terrorist in his own right...this is who you cast your lot in with? Pretty disgusting... " ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Whether he, Arafat was a anti Semitic . I am not sure, arent Arabs considered Semetic, he sure was a enemy of Israel, Zionist and their ideas of a Jewish state in the land they are in..was a terrorist , as was Begin by the way, according to the British anyway...and a extremist by the Haganah at one time, but by pointing out that the Palestinian Authority is in control of the West Bank , their acting leader till the September elections just schedule is Abbas..how does that "this is who you cast your lot in with? Pretty disgusting... " warrant your statement? Not siding , agreeing just mentioning a fact yet by mentioning it I am casting my lot in with??? I also asked your opinion of the point I brought up in my post #62, the possibility of the Palestinians forgetting about a two State solution but waiting the Israeli's out and going with a one state solution. This is a fact discussed by Israelis, government officials and on their mind, not something I just thought up, and a little time is nothing to them.. brought out in that article I suggested you read too, in time a lot can happen , a generation, two , no more then three. You always seem to run away from these questions asked of you be people. Very common thing with you. You drop a bomb..scuttle away on to another what ever and questions in the wake of,,seem to hang there. Getting old my friend. OK really, nite ed..
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