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Post by swamp on Sept 27, 2012 14:17:17 GMT -5
I worked out all the time in college. I also lived on carbs, lots of pasta and bread bowls, and given what i've learned about my body and gluten, its no wonder I was all kinds of anemic and lacking basic nutrients, so sickly ... my hair was dingy and wouldn't grow, my nails flaked off... ... but I was skinny... oped, I believe you are around my age, and the "hot diet" back then was all carbs, no fat. I'm insulin resistent, so I didn't understand why I was starving all the time and gaining weight on that diet. It's horrible for you.
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Post by Formerly SK on Sept 27, 2012 15:03:40 GMT -5
I worked out all the time in college. I also lived on carbs, lots of pasta and bread bowls, and given what i've learned about my body and gluten, its no wonder I was all kinds of anemic and lacking basic nutrients, so sickly ... my hair was dingy and wouldn't grow, my nails flaked off... ... but I was skinny... This is important. People focus so much on skinny and forget healthy. I started eating 1/4 cup raw walnuts with breakfast about two years ago. I did it primarily to balance out my omegas (6 vs 3). I was listening to the news recently though and someone piped up about how omega 3s really improve hair growth, and I realized that my hair is 1000x better than it ever has been. My eye lashes are so long that I have to be careful putting on mascara and they used to be just little stubs. I used to have to keep my hair cut short because it was so thin/flat and now for the first time I have waves of shiny hair down my back. I don't know how long it took for those walnuts to do their thing (and even longer for me to draw a conclusion) but it's amazing to me that I lived for so many years with such nutritional deficiencies. There isn't a lot of "food" in our food.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2012 2:18:43 GMT -5
Interesting. Of course I only have what she said about it to go on so what do I know? I figured someone complained about her brood and this was used to keep them in line. Maybe certain towns have passed laws about it, but as a state...there are no age minimums.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2012 6:34:08 GMT -5
I think if you leave your 3 yr old outside alone, wandering the streets, you are going to be charged with neglect. I don't think most cops are just going to go right by and wait until curfew to pick up that child and take them home.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2012 7:44:10 GMT -5
I think if you leave your 3 yr old outside alone, wandering the streets, you are going to be charged with neglect. I don't think most cops are just going to go right by and wait until curfew to pick up that child and take them home. Please don't call the cops on me.
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Post by zibazinski on Sept 28, 2012 7:46:21 GMT -5
It was either grosse pointe woods or Harper woods, Michigan. Circa 1978.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2012 8:57:40 GMT -5
I think if you leave your 3 yr old outside alone, wandering the streets, you are going to be charged with neglect. I don't think most cops are just going to go right by and wait until curfew to pick up that child and take them home. No not a 3 year old, but the town I just lived in for 5 years did not pick up school age kids unless it was past curfew or they were break the law some how. Them riding around the town on their bikes, playing at the park, walking to the store, etc unsupervised did not get them picked up. I know several of us thought that the parents of the kindergarten boy were neglectful since he was so young and would end up on the other side of town from where he lived or the parents worked. But the cops didn't do a thing about it. His dad was eventually deported for soliciting a hooker that was actually an undercover cop Then the entire family moved to Canada since apparently the dad was able to get into Canada. (They were from Albania).
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Post by 973beachbum on Sept 28, 2012 9:19:33 GMT -5
I think if you leave your 3 yr old outside alone, wandering the streets, you are going to be charged with neglect. I don't think most cops are just going to go right by and wait until curfew to pick up that child and take them home. There is a big difference between a 3 year old wandering the streets and a forth grader walking home from the bus stop and staying home alone for an hour after school.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2012 10:29:11 GMT -5
You can do what you want. My 4th graders did not walk home alone or come home to an empty house. Sorry, but a 8 or 9 yr old simply does not have the wherewithall to manage themselves or to think like adults think. You can disagree and you can do whatever you want with your kids. But, i either waited at the bus stop and walked my child home or if i am working, my child goes to daycare after school. My kids have never been left alone at those young ages without supervision.
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Post by Colleenz on Sept 28, 2012 10:32:20 GMT -5
I was a latchkey kid at 9 and managed to survive. Mom really had little choice.
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Post by midjd on Sept 28, 2012 10:34:19 GMT -5
That's a little different from "the law says they can't be home alone before 12."
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Post by swasat on Sept 28, 2012 11:06:12 GMT -5
I was a latchkey kid at 9 and managed to survive. Mom really had little choice. Same here. We somehow survived, but a lot of bad things happen because we had no supervision. It wasn't mom's fault, she tried, but I was very angry that she wasn't home for us and vowed to be home for my kids. Does it ever occur to you, lonewolf, that it might have been you as a kid that was the issue? And not necessarily being left alone? You say you were very angry. Maybe thats the problem. Brother and I were latchkey kids till I hit 5th grade. Then I started staying home alone for a couple of hours till mom got home. No issues for us. We followed the rules, stayed home, entertained ourselves and never got in any trouble. Not even in teenage years. And we both respect our mom immensely for what she achieved in her career and for all that she did for us. No anger her. None whatsoever.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2012 11:10:25 GMT -5
I was a latchkey kid at 9 and managed to survive. Mom really had little choice. Yes and so what? So are you advocating that or what? If you are in a bad position and you have to do that, yes. that may happen. But, i would do everything in my power to avoid that.
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Post by swasat on Sept 28, 2012 11:11:56 GMT -5
I was a latchkey kid at 9 and managed to survive. Mom really had little choice. Yes and so what? So are you advocating that or what? If you are in a bad position and you have to do that, yes. that may happen. But, i would do everything in my power to avoid that. What *I* am trying to say is that I don't want to be a tyrant like you. Plain and simple.
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Post by midjd on Sept 28, 2012 11:17:46 GMT -5
I rode the bus home starting in first grade (age 6?) and was home for an hour or so before my mom got home. Nothing ever happened. Once there was a really bad thunderstorm and I went to the neighbor's house... that's about it. My brother OTOH wasn't allowed to stay home alone until he was 12 or 13 (and my mom refused to leave him alone in the house overnight, ever). Hence the laws that give a lot of wiggle room, because what's appropriate for one kid isn't always appropriate for another.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2012 11:19:54 GMT -5
Yes and so what? So are you advocating that or what? If you are in a bad position and you have to do that, yes. that may happen. But, i would do everything in my power to avoid that. What *I* am trying to say is that I don't want to be a tyrant like you. Plain and simple. OK? Have you considered Anger Management?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2012 11:24:01 GMT -5
Tyrants like me! I walk my kid to and from the busstop!!
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Post by ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ on Sept 28, 2012 11:24:14 GMT -5
I think the term is "helicopter parent".
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2012 11:24:48 GMT -5
You know nothing about me.
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Post by swamp on Sept 28, 2012 11:25:00 GMT -5
Tyrants like me! I walk my kid to and from the busstop!! Lazy parents like me!! I hire a 12 year old to do it for me!!!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2012 11:26:54 GMT -5
Neglect!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2012 11:30:07 GMT -5
If you don't leave your kids home alone you are a tyrant?
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Post by souldoubt on Sept 28, 2012 11:36:23 GMT -5
I was overweight from about 7th grade through 10th grade then spent the summer before junior year at the beach bodyboarding and also hit a growth spurt so despite eating fast food almost daily I thinned out. Obviously there's lots of things you can attribute being overweight to - diet, sitting in front of a tv/computer, genetics, etc but at the end of the day for most people it's due to taking in more than you burn off. If you ever track what you eat and how many calories that is especially if you eat out at all and take into account portion size you can get to your recommended daily intake before dinner. As far as kids being outside and walking to school I was doing that by the age of 9 because my mom worked. I'm glad I was doing that because it's one of many things that started to get my mom to loosen her grip and let me develop into an adult who could stand on his own two feet.
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Post by movingforward on Sept 28, 2012 11:41:38 GMT -5
I was not a latchkey kid but starting at about the age of 10 my parents would leave me alone on Sat. morning for 4-5 hrs while they went to play golf. They left early in the morning and were usually home no later than 1PM. Since we only had cartoons on Sat. mornings back then I would watch them pretty much all morning, make myself some cereal, etc. Once they got home they would make me some lunch and I went outside and played with my friends. Prior to that my teenage brother would babysit me on Sat. mornings. No big deal to me
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2012 11:42:27 GMT -5
WHOO HOO! 3 more years and DH and I can have our Saturday mornings back!!!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2012 11:48:28 GMT -5
If you don't leave your kids home alone you are a tyrant? Uh huh! ;D
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Post by movingforward on Sept 28, 2012 11:48:40 GMT -5
WHOO HOO! 3 more years and DH and I can have our Saturday mornings back!!! Just make sure you don't waste them watching old reruns of Saved by the Bell
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Post by 973beachbum on Sept 28, 2012 11:50:19 GMT -5
I rode the bus home starting in first grade (age 6?) and was home for an hour or so before my mom got home. Nothing ever happened. Once there was a really bad thunderstorm and I went to the neighbor's house... that's about it. My brother OTOH wasn't allowed to stay home alone until he was 12 or 13 (and my mom refused to leave him alone in the house overnight, ever). Hence the laws that give a lot of wiggle room, because what's appropriate for one kid isn't always appropriate for another. I completely agree. I would probably move Heavan and Earth to not leave a 6 year old home alone but maybe 8 with the right kid. My Dd was in the 3rd grade when I started letting her be alone for a few minutes at a time. By the time she was in 5th grade she could be trusted to stay home alone for an hour or two with complete confidence. My son will have to wait a LONG time for that to happen! This is really more about the child and their maturity than what a calander says. My son has been asking when he can have a key and just let himself in in the afternoon though.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2012 11:57:51 GMT -5
And, none of my kids are fat either! So, i guess it pays to be a tyrant! lol Thus, proving that if you walk your kid to and fro the bus stop, you will eliminate childhood obesity. Case closed!
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Post by lexxy703 on Sept 28, 2012 12:01:33 GMT -5
My brother & I were latch key kids at a very young age. He was in kindergarten & I was in 3rd grade. We thought nothing of it. We knew if something happened to go to our next door neighbor who was a SAHM. We learned how to cook soup & grilled cheese sandwiches. It made us self reliant as well as teaching us to rely on each other. We have always been very close. I know things were very different back then. My parents would be in jail now if they left us alone that young.
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