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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2012 11:23:20 GMT -5
What's your point?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2012 11:23:48 GMT -5
My son had 3 QB sacks and 8 tackles in his last game. I am doing a hell of a job!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2012 11:24:20 GMT -5
My son had 3 QB sacks and 8 tackles in his last game. I am doing a hell of a job! Are you his tackling dummy?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2012 11:24:27 GMT -5
Because female teen sex offenders are pretty rare. And, boys and girls are indeed different. And, girls/women are more natural at nuturing and being attuned to th needs of others. My young daughter would actually be BETTER at watching her teen brothers. FLAME ON! you have some major sexist ideas
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2012 11:26:56 GMT -5
Well, that's funny. My dd plays basketball, softball and is a stellar student. And, i have a professional degree and run my own business. Yeah, i am "sexist". Uh huh. In reality so is everyone, but it doesn't sound PC to say that men and women are different in some regards.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2012 11:27:45 GMT -5
My son had 3 QB sacks and 8 tackles in his last game. I am doing a hell of a job! Yes, because football stats are the benchmark of a productive member of society.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2012 11:28:23 GMT -5
But, yeah, if i need the TV moved or the sofa, i call on my sons. I like to have male brawn around, who doesn't?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2012 11:28:52 GMT -5
My son had 3 QB sacks and 8 tackles in his last game. I am doing a hell of a job! Yes, because football stats are the benchmark of a productive member of society. You got it! Friday night lights tonight!
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Post by raeoflyte on Sept 14, 2012 11:33:24 GMT -5
Well, that's funny. My dd plays basketball, softball and is a stellar student. And, i have a professional degree and run my own business. Yeah, i am "sexist". Uh huh. In reality so is everyone, but it doesn't sound PC to say that men and women are different in some regards. Different doesn't mean that all men are pedophiles, or that all women are good at taking care of kids.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2012 11:34:06 GMT -5
Yeah, that's what i said. Uh huh.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2012 11:50:58 GMT -5
But, yeah, if i need the TV moved or the sofa, i call on my sons. I like to have male brawn around, who doesn't? i would like to have male brawn around, too. That is why I told Cawaii if he were gay, and I were gay, I would hit on him.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2012 11:55:57 GMT -5
I hit on the EE ladies all the time and I am not gay. ;D
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2012 11:56:48 GMT -5
I hit on the EE ladies all the time and I am not gay. ;D You just haven't realized it yet.
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Post by movingforward on Sept 14, 2012 11:59:17 GMT -5
My brother is 7 yrs older than me and my parents started letting him babysit me when he was a teenager while they went to play golf on Saturday mornings. Some of his male friends in the neighborhood also babysat kids from time to time to make a few bucks. I don't see any problem with hiring a male nanny the same way I see no problem with a gay male couple adopting a child.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2012 12:01:16 GMT -5
I hit on the EE ladies all the time and I am not gay. ;D You just haven't realized it yet. It was college....
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2012 12:28:11 GMT -5
Well, one way to think about it: female nannies and babysitters live with or have boyfriends/husbands or other guys in their lives that they have over occasionally, yes? (Assuming people will hire straight women, and aren't only seeking lesbian caregivers).
An example of this would Angel's daycare lady having her husband around while she took care of kids. The lady had great references, but her husband wasn't thoroughly investigated because he wasn't the primary.
So by the logic of men = likelier pedophiles, it probably makes sense to do deep, legit investigations and reference hunting on a male caregiver, and then assume his wife or girlfriend would be a non-pedophile. You can assess the background of the male around your child, and if they change relationships, well, any of the women are still assumed lower risk.
Just a thought that occured. I personally think women are as likely to go batsh-t and do something like shake a baby, but like I said, a lot of that is family and stories from acquaintances.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2012 12:33:49 GMT -5
Well, then mothers should stay home and take care of their children.
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Post by movingforward on Sept 14, 2012 12:36:23 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2012 12:37:27 GMT -5
Well, then mothers should stay home and take care of their children. I'd be afraid I'd kill the kid. No joke. I'm generally very mellow and in control, but the one and only way that I go raging angry bear is when my sleep is interrupted over and over. I will snarl and lash at something, hard, before I fully wake up. If I have kids, it'll be because DF is there to let me sleep. I wouldn't risk it otherwise.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2012 12:37:27 GMT -5
I hardly see how recognizing and celebrating masculinity and femininity is a bad thing. I don't understand the fear of saying "boys and girls are different in some ways" is a big deal. My daughter can grow up to be and do whatever she wants. Likewise my sons.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2012 12:38:25 GMT -5
Well, then mothers should stay home and take care of their children. I'd be afraid I'd kill the kid. No joke. I'm generally very mellow and in control, but the one and only way that I go raging angry bear is when my sleep is interrupted over and over. I will snarl and lash at something, hard, before I fully wake up. If I have kids, it'll be because DF is there to let me sleep. I wouldn't risk it otherwise. Well, if you are serious then you should probably not be alone with your child at all.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2012 12:41:21 GMT -5
I hardly see how recognizing and celebrating masculinity and femininity is a bad thing. I don't understand the fear of saying "boys and girls are different in some ways" is a big deal. My daughter can grow up to be and do whatever she wants. Likewise my sons. There's nothing wrong with admitting that girls and boys are different. What I think is wrong is not allowing one of your children to do something simply based upon their gender (ie, DS could ride bike around the neighborhood at 9, but DD can't JUST BECAUSE SHE'S A GIRL).
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Post by movingforward on Sept 14, 2012 12:42:21 GMT -5
Well, then mothers should stay home and take care of their children. I'd be afraid I'd kill the kid. No joke. I'm generally very mellow and in control, but the one and only way that I go raging angry bear is when my sleep is interrupted over and over. I will snarl and lash at something, hard, before I fully wake up. If I have kids, it'll be because DF is there to let me sleep. I wouldn't risk it otherwise. I think you might want to skip having children. It is not for everyone.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Sept 14, 2012 12:44:25 GMT -5
I'd be afraid I'd kill the kid. No joke. I'm generally very mellow and in control, but the one and only way that I go raging angry bear is when my sleep is interrupted over and over. I will snarl and lash at something, hard, before I fully wake up. If I have kids, it'll be because DF is there to let me sleep. I wouldn't risk it otherwise.
I think you might want to skip having children. It is not for everyone x a million
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Post by midjd on Sept 14, 2012 12:45:07 GMT -5
I don't think anyone is objecting to that - what we're objecting to is the idea that "men can't babysit little girls because most pedophiles are men, but it's fine for women to babysit little boys even though more than half of all physical abuse to children is by women."
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2012 12:45:22 GMT -5
I'd be afraid I'd kill the kid. No joke. I'm generally very mellow and in control, but the one and only way that I go raging angry bear is when my sleep is interrupted over and over. I will snarl and lash at something, hard, before I fully wake up. If I have kids, it'll be because DF is there to let me sleep. I wouldn't risk it otherwise. Well, if you are serious then you should probably not be alone with your child at all. Well, I've never hit anybody, ever, when awake. But if I'm woken up 5 times in one night and am on the ragged edge, yeah, I'm going to be very angry before the logic functions kick on. I am very leary of having kids, and most likely won't, for a variety of reasons, but yeah, my reaction to be woken up over and over is a big one. Awake I'm fine, but man... that 4th or 5th time
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2012 12:45:23 GMT -5
My SON is 6' 4" 180 lbs. He was physically imposing and street smart in many ways. My younger son is waif, thin and more naive. I let my older son out of my sight sooner than i did my younger son. Partly due to physical prowess and ability to protect oneself. And, the reality that you might choose to ignore is that most men can easily overpower most women. There is a physical disparity in that regard. You can pretend otherwise, i don't. And, you can think how i raise my daughter is "wrong" all you want, she is my daughter and i will do what i believe is in her best interests.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2012 12:46:36 GMT -5
I don't think anyone is objecting to that - what we're objecting to is the idea that "men can't babysit little girls because most pedophiles are men, but it's fine for women to babysit little boys even though more than half of all physical abuse to children is by women." Yes, that is exactly what you are objecting to.
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Post by midjd on Sept 14, 2012 12:48:44 GMT -5
Uh, no...
Men and women ARE different. It's pretty hard to argue against that.
It's when you use these differences to discriminate - or in your case, engage in some major double standards - that you get into dicey territory. Or when you paint everyone of one gender with the same broad brush (e.g. not all girls are nurturing, not all boys are rough-and-tumble...)
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2012 12:49:53 GMT -5
Because female teen sex offenders are pretty rare. And, boys and girls are indeed different. And, girls/women are more natural at nuturing and being attuned to th needs of others. My young daughter would actually be BETTER at watching her teen brothers. FLAME ON! you have some major sexist ideas Singlemominmd...meet Shooby. As a mother of teen boys I find most of her comments to be just ridiculous and narrow minded. My oldest son HAS babysat before. He is not a pedophile. One of my friends needed a babysitter and called and asked if he could do it. He said sure. You have some serious sexist issues.
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