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Post by Savoir Faire-Demogague in NJ on Feb 17, 2012 10:15:58 GMT -5
How Biased Is Your Media?: A New Freakonomics Radio Podcast (Article contains some tables, charts and graphs that have no links, click link below for full article)www.freakonomics.com/2012/02/16/how-biased-is-your-media/Stephen J. Dubner 02/16/2012 | 9:37 am When it comes to politics and media, the left argues that the right is more biased than the left while the right argues that the left is more biased than the right. Who’s right? That’s what we try to answer in our latest podcast, “How Biased Is Your Media?” (You can download/subscribe at iTunes, get the RSS feed, listen live via the media player above, or read the transcript below.) In a way, this episode is a follow-up to a podcast we put out a few months ago called “The Truth Is Out There, Isn’t It?,” which examined how we choose to believe what we believe about a variety of important issues. In this episode, we apply that same idea in a small-bore fashion, going after media bias. You’ll hear from a variety of media practitioners and academic scholars who’ve been brave (foolhardy?) enough to wade into the media-bias debate. Among the practitioners: Glenn Beck (who’s been on Freakonomics Radio before), Ann Coulter, Juan Williams, and Andrew Rosenthal, the editorial page editor at The New York Times. Everyone of course has his opinion about media bias, but we were trying to get beyond opinion. As Steve Levitt points out, this is no simple matter: LEVITT: Measuring media bias is a really difficult endeavor because unlike what economists usually study, which are numbers and quantities, media bias is all expressed in words. So we look at some of the recent empirical work on media bias, in which research scholars use words as data to better understand whether a) media bias exists; b) if so, to what degree, and in what directions; and c) what purpose/s it serves. In a 2004 paper, Tim Groseclose and Jeff Milyo took a stab at media bias; that paper became the launching point of Groseclose’s book Left Turn: How Liberal Media Bias Distorts the American Mind. You’ll hear from Gloseclose about his methodologies and findings, and you can read an earlier Q&A with him here. Here’s how Levitt has described the Groseclose-Milyo analysis: LEVITT: Tim Groseclose and Jeff Milyo estimate how left-wing or right-wing media outlets are based on what research by think tanks they mention in their stories. They then compare that to the think-tank research that elected officials cite when they talk on the House or Senate floor, to calibrate where the media fits relative to the Congress. They find some interesting answers: most of the media does have a liberal bias (throwing out the editorial page, the Wall Street Journal is the most liberal of all, even beating the New York Times!). Fox News is one of the few outlets that is right of center. Here’s how 20 major media outlets rank on Groseclose and Milyo’s slant scale, with 100 representing the most liberal and zero the most conservative: ABC Good Morning America 56.1 ABC World News Tonight 61.0 CBS Early Show 66.6 CBS Evening News 73.7 CNN NewsNight with Aaron Brown 56.0 Drudge Report 60.4 Fox News Spec. Rept. w/ Brit Hume 39.7 Los Angeles Times 70.0 NBC Nightly News 61.6 NBC Today Show 64.0 New York Times 73.7 Newshour with Jim Lehrer 55.8 Newsweek 66.3 NPR Morning Edition 66.3 Time Magazine 65.4 U.S. News and World Report 65.8 USA Today 63.4 Wall Street Journal 85.1 Washington Post 66.6 Washington Times 35.4 Article continues...click link..
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Post by billisonboard on Feb 17, 2012 10:34:37 GMT -5
How Biased Is Your Media?: A New Freakonomics Radio Podcast (Article contains some tables, charts and graphs that have no links, click link below for full article)www.freakonomics.com/2012/02/16/how-biased-is-your-media/Stephen J. Dubner 02/16/2012 | 9:37 am When it comes to politics and media, the left argues that the right is more biased than the left while the right argues that the left is more biased than the right. Who’s right? That’s what we try to answer in our latest podcast, “How Biased Is Your Media?” (You can download/subscribe at iTunes, get the RSS feed, listen live via the media player above, or read the transcript below.) In a way, this episode is a follow-up to a podcast we put out a few months ago called “The Truth Is Out There, Isn’t It?,” which examined how we choose to believe what we believe about a variety of important issues. In this episode, we apply that same idea in a small-bore fashion, going after media bias. You’ll hear from a variety of media practitioners and academic scholars who’ve been brave (foolhardy?) enough to wade into the media-bias debate. Among the practitioners: Glenn Beck (who’s been on Freakonomics Radio before), Ann Coulter, Juan Williams, and Andrew Rosenthal, the editorial page editor at The New York Times. Everyone of course has his opinion about media bias, but we were trying to get beyond opinion. As Steve Levitt points out, this is no simple matter: LEVITT: Measuring media bias is a really difficult endeavor because unlike what economists usually study, which are numbers and quantities, media bias is all expressed in words. So we look at some of the recent empirical work on media bias, in which research scholars use words as data to better understand whether a) media bias exists; b) if so, to what degree, and in what directions; and c) what purpose/s it serves. In a 2004 paper, Tim Groseclose and Jeff Milyo took a stab at media bias; that paper became the launching point of Groseclose’s book Left Turn: How Liberal Media Bias Distorts the American Mind. You’ll hear from Gloseclose about his methodologies and findings, and you can read an earlier Q&A with him here. Here’s how Levitt has described the Groseclose-Milyo analysis: LEVITT: Tim Groseclose and Jeff Milyo estimate how left-wing or right-wing media outlets are based on what research by think tanks they mention in their stories. They then compare that to the think-tank research that elected officials cite when they talk on the House or Senate floor, to calibrate where the media fits relative to the Congress. They find some interesting answers: most of the media does have a liberal bias (throwing out the editorial page, the Wall Street Journal is the most liberal of all, even beating the New York Times!). Fox News is one of the few outlets that is right of center. Here’s how 20 major media outlets rank on Groseclose and Milyo’s slant scale, with 100 representing the most liberal and zero the most conservative: ABC Good Morning America 56.1 ABC World News Tonight 61.0 CBS Early Show 66.6 CBS Evening News 73.7 CNN NewsNight with Aaron Brown 56.0 Drudge Report 60.4 Fox News Spec. Rept. w/ Brit Hume 39.7 Los Angeles Times 70.0 NBC Nightly News 61.6 NBC Today Show 64.0 New York Times 73.7 Newshour with Jim Lehrer 55.8 Newsweek 66.3 NPR Morning Edition 66.3 Time Magazine 65.4 U.S. News and World Report 65.8 USA Today 63.4 Wall Street Journal 85.1 Washington Post 66.6 Washington Times 35.4 Article continues...click link.. (emphasis added) NewsNight with Aaron Brown - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia NewsNight with Aaron Brown was a live international news broadcast, which appeared on the CNN network from 2001 to 2005. It aired at 10 p.m. ET on ... (emphasis added) Just noting.
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Post by Savoir Faire-Demogague in NJ on Feb 17, 2012 10:45:19 GMT -5
NewsNight with Aaron Brown - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia NewsNight with Aaron Brown was a live international news broadcast, which appeared on the CNN network from 2001 to 2005. It aired at 10 p.m. ET on ... (emphasis added) Surprisng that the WSJ is the most liberally slanted news outlet.
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Post by billisonboard on Feb 17, 2012 10:52:59 GMT -5
NewsNight with Aaron Brown - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia NewsNight with Aaron Brown was a live international news broadcast, which appeared on the CNN network from 2001 to 2005. It aired at 10 p.m. ET on ... (emphasis added) Surprisng that the WSJ is the most liberally slanted news outlet. If you look at methodology of determining that "slant" it doesn't necessary surprise. They look at think-tank research cited. Obviously the WSJ would much more frequently cite the same sources that liberal politicians cite. Why would any quality news organization cite the extremely biased agenda driven research done by right wing think-tanks?
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Post by jkapp on Feb 17, 2012 11:04:12 GMT -5
NewsNight with Aaron Brown - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia NewsNight with Aaron Brown was a live international news broadcast, which appeared on the CNN network from 2001 to 2005. It aired at 10 p.m. ET on ... (emphasis added) Surprisng that the WSJ is the most liberally slanted news outlet. If you look at methodology of determining that "slant" it doesn't necessary surprise. They look at think-tank research cited. Obviously the WSJ would much more frequently cite the same sources that liberal politicians cite. Why would any quality news organization cite the extremely biased agenda driven research done by right wing think-tanks? To counterbalance the extremely biased agenda driven research done by the left-wing liberal think tanks?
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Post by billisonboard on Feb 17, 2012 11:09:16 GMT -5
If you look at methodology of determining that "slant" it doesn't necessary surprise. They look at think-tank research cited. Obviously the WSJ would much more frequently cite the same sources that liberal politicians cite. Why would any quality news organization cite the extremely biased agenda driven research done by right wing think-tanks? To counterbalance the extremely biased agenda driven research done by the left-wing liberal think tanks? The Wall Street Journal cites the same research as liberal politicians. Why? Because The Wall Street Journal is liberal or because it is good research?
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Post by jkapp on Feb 17, 2012 11:23:55 GMT -5
To counterbalance the extremely biased agenda driven research done by the left-wing liberal think tanks? The Wall Street Journal cites the same research as liberal politicians. Why? Because The Wall Street Journal is liberal or because it is good research? Probably because news has become an incredibly lazy industry...no one actually investigates much anymore. They just copy what others say at face value and then speak with someone else who might have a different opinion. On television, they usually end up talking with 8 different people though...still not sure why they need so many people to give basically two different opinions.
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Post by billisonboard on Feb 17, 2012 11:33:30 GMT -5
The Wall Street Journal cites the same research as liberal politicians. Why? Because The Wall Street Journal is liberal or because it is good research? Probably because news has become an incredibly lazy industry... . Actually corporate masters have gutted the research staffs of media organizations.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2012 11:37:38 GMT -5
WSJ isn't the same quality it used to be.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2012 11:39:41 GMT -5
How Liberal Media Bias Distorts the American Mind. Gosh...I thought they were born that way & that's why they were liberal. Live & learn. Why would any quality news organization cite the extremely biased agenda driven research done by right wing think-tanks? They had to use right wing think-tanks because all the left wing think-tanks were closed so their people could get the discounts on Chevy Volts. ;D
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Feb 17, 2012 11:51:22 GMT -5
If you look at methodology of determining that "slant" it doesn't necessary surprise. They look at think-tank research cited. Obviously the WSJ would much more frequently cite the same sources that liberal politicians cite. Why would any quality news organization cite the extremely biased agenda driven research done by right wing think-tanks? To counterbalance the extremely biased agenda driven research done by the left-wing liberal think tanks? *lol*
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NewsNight with Aaron Brown - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia NewsNight with Aaron Brown was a live international news broadcast, which appeared on the CNN network from 2001 to 2005. It aired at 10 p.m. ET on ... (emphasis added) Surprisng that the WSJ is the most liberally slanted news outlet. No surprise here, nor for CBS evening news either.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2012 12:08:58 GMT -5
No bias at all. While Athens is on fire they all give equal and never ending coverage of the death of Whitney . I do love Whitney, just saying.
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Post by jkapp on Feb 17, 2012 12:47:16 GMT -5
No bias at all. While Athens is on fire they all give equal and never ending coverage of the death of Whitney . I do love Whitney, just saying. There's some truth there I have given up entirely on getting any type of news from CNN these days. Everytime I flip to it, they are talking about the Republican primaries. Every...time... As if nothing else is happening anywhere in the world.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2012 13:07:10 GMT -5
Drudge Report 60.4
Any 'study' which puts the Drudge Report in the so-called Liberal camp, is essentially worthless.
Media bias pretty much depends on where you are standing. If a particular media outlet agrees with an individuals political and world view, he/she will not consider it biased, regardless of whether it is advocating the sterilization of the mentally and physically challenged, the re-institution of debtors prisons, the 80 hour work week for 12 year olds, the nuking of China, etc.
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As Obama pushes new regulations, UK eyes privatizing its health care EDINBURGH, SCOTLAND - FEBRUARY 16: Prime Minister David Cameron gives a speech at the Apex Hotel on February 16, 2012 in Edinburgh, Scotland. David Cameron said he will do everything he can to stop Scottish independence; however he would consider devolving further powers. Prime Minister David Cameron met with Scottish First Minister Alex Salmond in Edinburgh for talks on the proposed independence referendum. British Prime Minister David Filmmaker Michael Moore glorified the United Kingdom’s National Health Service in his 2007 documentary ”Sicko,” making a cult film argument that socialized medicine works. But Prime Minister David Cameron, the Tory MP who heads a coalition government in England, is apparently not a Moore fan: He is working to partially privatize the NHS, beginning a massive outsourcing of medical services to private health care providers throughout the U.K. Britain’s media, in particular the Washington Post–Huffington Post hybrid The Guardian, is publishing near-panic-attacks alerts daily about the conservative plan, which comes as the British government scales back on entitlement spending, hoping to avoid a Greek-style financial meltdown. But in the United States, left-wing enthusiasts of socialized medicine don’t seem bothered at the loss of a role model. Many won’t even acknowledge it. “I handle media and public relations for the Catholic Health Association,” Fred Caesar told The Daily Caller. “We will pass on commenting.” Caesar is special assistant to the president of the CHA, a vocal advocate of President Obama’s health care overhaul. Major U.S. media are also ignoring the story. As Cameron’s own health reform bill gathers momentum and heads for a vote in Parliament, online searches show no coverage at all of Britain’s move in The Washington Post or The New York Times.Read more: dailycaller.com/2012/02/17/as-obama-pushes-new-regulations-uk-eyes-privatizing-its-health-care/#ixzz1mfGXvI5s
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Post by formerroomate99 on Feb 17, 2012 17:56:27 GMT -5
It also depends on where the folks doing the reporting and editing stand. The vast majority of people working in the news industry vote Democrat.
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Post by EVT1 on Feb 17, 2012 21:59:17 GMT -5
Freakonomics is biased and based its bias on a biased study
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 17, 2012 22:36:55 GMT -5
NewsNight with Aaron Brown - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia NewsNight with Aaron Brown was a live international news broadcast, which appeared on the CNN network from 2001 to 2005. It aired at 10 p.m. ET on ... (emphasis added) Surprisng that the WSJ is the most liberally slanted news outlet. indicates that their methodology is pretty clearly off.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 17, 2012 22:54:45 GMT -5
It also depends on where the folks doing the reporting and editing stand. The vast majority of people working in the news industry vote Democrat. true. but what is NOT true is that their actual views are any more liberal than average Americans. they aren't. media bias does exist. it is just not especially liberal.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 17, 2012 22:55:36 GMT -5
Drudge Report 60.4Any 'study' which puts the Drudge Report in the so-called Liberal camp, is essentially worthless. precisely. the methodology is clearly suspect.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2012 22:55:54 GMT -5
Why would you expect a book entitled 'liberal media bias' to be unbiased?
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 17, 2012 22:56:32 GMT -5
WSJ isn't the same quality it used to be. true. Murdoch is ruining that paper.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 17, 2012 22:57:09 GMT -5
Why would you expect a book entitled 'liberal media bias' to be unbiased? i am not digging too deep here, oped.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 17, 2012 22:58:36 GMT -5
No bias at all. While Athens is on fire they all give equal and never ending coverage of the death of Whitney . I do love Whitney, just saying. that is PRECISELY the bias that any reasonable person would expect from a corporate media: the one that attracts viewers or readers.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 17, 2012 22:59:56 GMT -5
NewsNight with Aaron Brown - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia NewsNight with Aaron Brown was a live international news broadcast, which appeared on the CNN network from 2001 to 2005. It aired at 10 p.m. ET on ... (emphasis added) Surprisng that the WSJ is the most liberally slanted news outlet. No surprise here, nor for CBS evening news either. no surprise? you serious? there damned well should be, jma.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 17, 2012 23:00:54 GMT -5
Probably because news has become an incredibly lazy industry... . Actually corporate masters have gutted the research staffs of media organizations. precisely. investigative reporting is only important if you put journalism over profits.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 17, 2012 23:03:38 GMT -5
NewsNight with Aaron Brown - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia NewsNight with Aaron Brown was a live international news broadcast, which appeared on the CNN network from 2001 to 2005. It aired at 10 p.m. ET on ... (emphasis added) Surprisng that the WSJ is the most liberally slanted news outlet. If you look at methodology of determining that "slant" it doesn't necessary surprise. They look at think-tank research cited. oh, this is THAT fucking study? THE UCLA ONE? it is HORRIBLY flawed. i will post an analysis if i can find it. this study actually called the ACLU right wing biased because of their citations. not kidding. their methodology was never checked. it was ASSUMED correct. it is not.
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Post by EVT1 on Feb 17, 2012 23:08:51 GMT -5
Why would you expect a book entitled 'liberal media bias' to be unbiased? Really? That explains the list- I guess they threw Fox news over the hump (barely) to make it seem legit. I read the freakonomics book and I am surprised they bought into this. Damn slackers.
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Post by ugonow on Feb 18, 2012 8:41:25 GMT -5
It still beats IBD. They keep delivering it to me for some reason.I don't even read them anymore, they go right in the trash. All stock position pumping and political agenda.
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