Pew center study on Voter registration

[Value Buy]

By The Associated Press
Some 24 million voter registrations in the United States contain significant errors, including about 1.8 million dead people still on the rolls and many more approved to vote in multiple states, according to a report released Tuesday.

Even though the inaccuracies impact one in eight registrations, researchers at the Pew Center on the States said they don't see it as an indicator of widespread fraud. Rather, they believe outdated systems are failing to keep pace with the most basic changes in people's lives, feeding perceptions that U.S. elections are not as airtight as they could be.

In conjunction with Pew's report, eight states said they are working this year on a centralized data system to help identify people whose registrations may be outdated.

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"A lot of people probably assume we do this already," said Sam Reed, who oversees elections as Washington's secretary of state. "I think it's going to bring more trust and confidence in the election system."

About 2.7 million people have active registrations in multiple states, including about 2,000 people registered in four or more states, according to the Pew report. Election officials said it is difficult to track when someone has moved to another state without canceling their previous registration.

Some 1.8 million deceased people are still listed as active voters, according to the study, which is based on a computer analysis of a proprietary voter database used by Democrats. Researchers believe 12.7 million records do not reflect the current addresses of active voters while 12 million contain address inaccuracies, including those that make it unlikely that mail could reach them.

Some of the files contain multiple problems, with Pew estimating that a total of 24 million have problems.

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Just half of the article is posted....
I think if people are registered in up to four states simultaneously, something is not kosher.

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I've never cancelled a voter registration.
#shucks2# Are you supposed to do that? And if so, how? #shucks2#

It's possible that I am registered in 3 states.

[floridayankee]

Feb 14, 2012 10:38:41 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

By The Associated Press
Some 24 million voter registrations in the United States contain significant errors, including about 1.8 million dead people still on the rolls and many more approved to vote in multiple states, according to a report released Tuesday.

Hell, I'm probably still registered to vote in RI. I'm selling my northern vote to the highest bidder. The opening bid must cover airline tickets, rental car, hotel room, food, and, of course, beer.

[billisonboard]

I recently moved about six blocks. Since my voting precinct is mail only and I have a post office box, I don't see a big issue on changing. As I think about it, my registration is likely still at the place I lived a few years ago. Since that place is right across the street from my current resident, my voting fraud is only the difference between an even numbered address and an odd numbered address.

[resolution]

I just checked with my old county recorders office online to see if there were an easy way to cancel my old voter registration. I can't find a way to do it. I moved across the country a few years ago so hopefully they have me off their rolls by now.

[handyman2]

How is having dead people still on the rolls a problem? You have to show ID to vote. Dead people are not going to show up. Same if you moved to another state.

[Value Buy]

Feb 14, 2012 21:08:02 GMT -5 handyman2 said:

How is having dead people still on the rolls a problem? You have to show ID to vote. Dead people are not going to show up. Same if you moved to another state.

Tell that to the cadavers still voting in Chicago.

[resolution]

The voting corruption in Chicago is very real but I was hoping it was an exception rather than a rule. Is it the same way in other areas? I thought it was just the Daley machine.

[formerexpat]

Some 24 million voter registrations in the United States contain significant errors, including about 1.8 million dead people still on the rolls and many more approved to vote in multiple states, according to a report released Tuesday.

Even a 10-20% abuse from this number, or 2.4m - 4.8m votes can swing most elections.

Should be a big concern to people.

I'd like to see the concentration by state and whether they're more instances in swing states.

[djAdvocate]

Feb 14, 2012 21:57:40 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Feb 14, 2012 21:08:02 GMT -5 handyman2 said:

How is having dead people still on the rolls a problem? You have to show ID to vote. Dead people are not going to show up. Same if you moved to another state.

Tell that to the cadavers still voting in Chicago.

it's not nice to refer to the good people of Chicago that way, VB.

[billisonboard]

Feb 15, 2012 0:04:53 GMT -5 formerexpat said:

Some 24 million voter registrations in the United States contain significant errors, including about 1.8 million dead people still on the rolls and many more approved to vote in multiple states, according to a report released Tuesday.

Even a 10-20% abuse from this number, or 2.4m - 4.8m votes can swing most elections.

Should be a big concern to people.

I'd like to see the concentration by state and whether they're more instances in swing states.

I am sure that the concentration is high in states where either there have been large numbers of people moving in or moving out.

[Value Buy]

Here In Indiana, my wife and I both voted in 2008, the Presidential year election. 2010 election, we live in an unincorporated area, where no elections were held. Cities and towns had elections for local seats etc, but nothing for unincorporated townships.
In December we received post cards from the conty registration board, just checking whether we are still residents of the county, updating their records. If not returned, a follow up postcard would come before removing from the voting rolls. I believe, you used to have to miss two election cycles, before being contacted
The update can be done, if the state/county makes an effort.
This also keeps Federal Postal workers on the rolls.

[billisonboard]

Feb 15, 2012 9:59:03 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

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The update can be done, if the state/county makes an effort.
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I would certainly support hiring adequate staff using taxpayer dollars to keep voter rolls more up-to-date.

[cme1201]

Feb 15, 2012 10:31:21 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Feb 15, 2012 9:59:03 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

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The update can be done, if the state/county makes an effort.
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I would certainly support hiring adequate staff using taxpayer dollars to keep voter rolls more up-to-date.

Is this not why we pay for a Supervisor of Elections? Is this not why we have staffed Voter Registration offices? Is this not what tax money already dedicated should be used for?

[billisonboard]

Feb 15, 2012 10:37:08 GMT -5 cme1201 said:

Feb 15, 2012 10:31:21 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

I would certainly support hiring adequate staff using taxpayer dollars to keep voter rolls more up-to-date.

Is this not why we pay for a Supervisor of Elections? Is this not why we have staffed Voter Registration offices? Is this not what tax money already dedicated should be used for?

That is making the assumption that those already employed currently have a workload that would allow for increasing the effort to purge voter rolls. You may assume that. As for me, nah.

[Mkitty is pro kitty]

How is having dead people still on the rolls a problem? You have to show ID to vote. Dead people are not going to show up. Same if you moved to another state.

Also remember that two people cheating on each side cancel each other out.

Tell that to the cadavers still voting in Chicago.

Or how about telling that to the 1,500 imaginary people in Virginia?

Gingrich Ballot Fraud: Virginia Election Officials Confirm Criminal Investigation
Gingrich is being charged so far with 1,500 alleged cases of ballot petition fraud
www.infowars.com/gingrich-ballot-fraud-virginia-election-officials-confirm-criminal-investigation-2/

p.s. WAH!!!1! Why isn't teh Lamestream Media covering this? It must be censorship or a coverup or something!!!1!

[formerexpat]

I am sure that the concentration is high in states where either there have been large numbers of people moving in or moving out.

That's what I'd think too and is why I'd like to see the information by state to see any statistical inconsistencies, like if there were a ton in a place like Ohio, for example.