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Post by kgb18 on Apr 10, 2012 13:17:24 GMT -5
I am not a Santorum fan in the least, but I feel terrible for him and his family and their poor little girl. No one should have to go through that.
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Post by weltschmerz on Apr 10, 2012 13:31:13 GMT -5
Santorum just suspended his campaign. He's giving his speech on CNN now.
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Post by Jaguar on Apr 10, 2012 13:47:54 GMT -5
Santorum just suspended his campaign. He's giving his speech on CNN now. Yup I'm watching that now.
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Post by billisonboard on Apr 10, 2012 14:01:58 GMT -5
Must be some ugly poll numbers coming out of Pennsylvania.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2012 14:13:17 GMT -5
I am not a Santorum fan in the least, but I feel terrible for him and his family and their poor little girl. No one should have to go through that. Go through what? A presidential campaign?
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Post by Don Perignon on Apr 10, 2012 14:39:13 GMT -5
"One should only speak good of the deceased"
Torquemada is dead.
Good.
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Post by Opti on Apr 10, 2012 14:45:26 GMT -5
Crafty, the little girl has a rare disease where very few even live to a year old. Given she has the disease she seems to have won the lottery though as a family is concerned since if she had born into more modest financial circumstances she probably would have died already.
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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 10, 2012 14:51:45 GMT -5
Must be some ugly poll numbers coming out of Pennsylvania. i think it is a few things. the first is that Romney recently went north of 40% on the national polling, leading Santorum by double digits. the second is that after Wisconsin, he really didn't have much of a chance. third, i think that Gingrich probably told him to pound sand when he asked him to leave the race. and finally, there are the "family issues". all told, this is a good move for him. i wish him the best.
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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 10, 2012 14:53:12 GMT -5
Crafty, the little girl has a rare disease where very few even live to a year old. Given she has the disease she seems to have won the lottery though as a family is concerned since if she had born into more modest financial circumstances she probably would have died already. moreover, since it is a genetic disorder, she will be lucky to live to adulthood. he probably did a smart thing spending every precious minute he can with her.
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Post by diamonds on Apr 10, 2012 15:00:59 GMT -5
Crafty, the little girl has a rare disease where very few even live to a year old. Given she has the disease she seems to have won the lottery though as a family is concerned since if she had born into more modest financial circumstances she probably would have died already. moreover, since it is a genetic disorder, she will be lucky to live to adulthood. he probably did a smart thing spending every precious minute he can with her. Yes, very nice thing to say dj, Family is always first, and I believe he is a good man. I always liked him personally, and think he gave it a good run, but this is the best decision for all concerned.
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Post by kgb18 on Apr 10, 2012 15:08:40 GMT -5
His daughter's illness. It's a rare genetic disease called Trisomy 18. It affects mostly girls and over half of babies born with it don't live past the first week of their lives. It causes serious physical problems as well as mental development problems. His daughter was hospitalized several months ago with pneumonia (if I remember correctly) and is now hospitalized again, though I have not seen it published what the specific problem is this time. She is a 3-year-old living on borrowed time. Very sad.
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Post by diamonds on Apr 10, 2012 15:16:32 GMT -5
>> Very sad.<<<
Yes, it is. I loved the picture of him holding her the last time he went home. Must be heartbreaking for the family.
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Post by EVT1 on Apr 10, 2012 16:28:15 GMT -5
I have a hard time feeling anything for him at all since he would deny the same care to other people that he was fortunate enough to get for his daughter. The good 'ole insurance companies would have told the rest of us to get stuffed right after birth- pre-existing condition and all. Good man my ass.
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Post by kgb18 on Apr 10, 2012 16:30:46 GMT -5
As a politician I can't stand the guy. I don't think I agree with a single view he holds. As a parent of a toddler, I feel for anyone who is going to watch their child die.
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Post by reasonfreedom on Apr 10, 2012 16:36:34 GMT -5
As a politician I can't stand the guy. I don't think I agree with a single view he holds. As a parent of a toddler, I feel for anyone who is going to watch their child die.
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Post by reasonfreedom on Apr 10, 2012 16:37:03 GMT -5
I have a hard time feeling anything for him at all since he would deny the same care to other people that he was fortunate enough to get for his daughter. The good 'ole insurance companies would have told the rest of us to get stuffed right after birth- pre-existing condition and all. Good man my ass. you should help lead the occupy movement in your state.
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Post by diamonds on Apr 10, 2012 17:06:22 GMT -5
I have a hard time feeling anything for him at all since he would deny the same care to other people that he was fortunate enough to get for his daughter. The good 'ole insurance companies would have told the rest of us to get stuffed right after birth- pre-existing condition and all. Good man my ass. you should help lead the occupy movement in your state. Quite distasteful for someone to feel that way.
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Post by shelby on Apr 10, 2012 17:10:29 GMT -5
you should help lead the occupy movement in your state. Quite distasteful for someone to feel that way. Since when is it distasteful to dislike a candidate? I am sure you only have glowing things to say about Obama right?
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Post by kgb18 on Apr 10, 2012 17:14:36 GMT -5
It's not distasteful to dislike a candidate. It is heartless to not feel something for the parent of a dying child simply because of his political beliefs.
Look, I'm a pretty liberal person. Like I said, I can't stand Santorum's political views. It would be a cold day in hell before I would ever vote for the guy. But I'm also a mom, and I can't imagine having a terminally ill child. I don't post here often, but I have been following this thread since Santorum is from my area. I just jumped in to offer some info. because it seemed like some people were unaware of his daughter's condition.
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Post by diamonds on Apr 10, 2012 17:22:27 GMT -5
Quite distasteful for someone to feel that way. Since when is it distasteful to dislike a candidate? I am sure you only have glowing things to say about Obama right? As much as I cannot stand Obama, I would admit he seems to be a good father and would not wish for him to see his children suffer like that. Sometimes, instead of spewing hate, it's better to say nothing. Whether we like or dislike their policies, you have to separate that from the man. Yes, Rick is a great dad as he left the campaign trail several times to be with his daughter. You can see the love in his face in that picture.
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Post by EVT1 on Apr 10, 2012 17:23:40 GMT -5
An asshole is an asshole, whether they just died or have a sick child. He is on record with getting rid of a law that prevents insurance companies from denying care to children just like his. When his child dies I will feel bad for him for about 5 minutes- then screw 'em.
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Post by diamonds on Apr 10, 2012 17:27:52 GMT -5
>>>I just jumped in to offer some info. because it seemed like some people were unaware of his daughter's condition.<<<
Yeah, thanks kgb, the race was over for him anyway, but I still say he gave it a good run. I'm sure all the people betting in Vegas on Romney felt the same. I have a daughter too, and couldn't imagine her being terminally ill when she was 3. I would have never been the same.
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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 10, 2012 20:16:05 GMT -5
>>>I just jumped in to offer some info. because it seemed like some people were unaware of his daughter's condition.<<< Yeah, thanks kgb, the race was over for him anyway, but I still say he gave it a good run. I'm sure all the people betting in Vegas on Romney felt the same. I have a daughter too, and couldn't imagine her being terminally ill when she was 3. I would have never been the same. if Newt had dropped out earlier in the contest, i think that Santorum would have given him a pretty good challenge.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2012 21:25:15 GMT -5
Crafty, the little girl has a rare disease where very few even live to a year old. Given she has the disease she seems to have won the lottery though as a family is concerned since if she had born into more modest financial circumstances she probably would have died already. moreover, since it is a genetic disorder, she will be lucky to live to adulthood. he probably did a smart thing spending every precious minute he can with her. Right... a condition she has had since birth. Not to suggest that I don't empathize with her family, but her time has always been finite and it didn't stop him from trying to land an 8 year, 24 hour/day job. Do you guys really think he pulled out for her or because the primary math just didn't work out?
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Post by usaone on Apr 10, 2012 21:40:03 GMT -5
Never a doubt. His child has been hospitalized before during the campaign. He was probably going to lose Pa that's why he quit. I wish them well with their daughter. Terrible thing for any family to go through. I don't agree with a lot of Obamas politics but the Prez and Michelle seem like good parents.
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Post by Tennesseer on Apr 10, 2012 22:20:17 GMT -5
As a side note: Newt Gingrich's check bounces for Utah ballotUpdated: 2012-04-10 6:55 PM Newt Gingrich insists his presidential campaign is going all the way to the GOP convention in Tampa. But first the candidate needs to get on the ballot in Utah. The Salt Lake Tribune reports Gingrich's $500 check to pay the filing fee has bounced. If the former House speaker doesn't pay up by April 20, the story says, his name won't appear on the ballot. The Utah primary -- the last of the presidential nominating season -- is June 26. From the Salt Lake newspaper story: Utah Elections Director Mark Thomas said a designated agent for the Gingrich campaign brought the filing papers and a check for $500 in March, but after the check was deposited, the state was notified by the bank that the check had bounced. He said the office has tried to contact the Gingrich campaign through the telephone number and email provided on the application, but have not received a response. Gingrich acknowledged Sunday that he recently contributed some of his own money to help his campaign, which is about $4.5 million in debt. content.usatoday.com/communities/onpolitics/post/2012/04/newt-gingrich-check-bounce-utah-primary-/1
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Post by Value Buy on Apr 11, 2012 8:21:35 GMT -5
I want to know if Santorum is being honest with us. He knew up front that his child was ill before he got in the race. He knew what was ahead for him and his family.
I want to know if he is using the old fallback excuse of, I have to spend time with my daughter and family, or if he saw the writing on the wall over his polling data in his home state, and bowed out because he did not want to be politically embarrassed. I want to know if he has cut a deal for the Vice Presidential slot with Mitt. If he has, even I will not vote Republican this fall, because he has used his child as an excuse for bowing out of the race. Being "President" calls for balls of steel. You do not resign from garnering the nomination over your child's illness. I know this sounds harsh and cold, but we are talking the Presidency here. If Hillary or Barrack faced the same issue in 2008, neither would have bowed out of the primary race over this issue. Of course Hillary has no young child, but Bill could have had a convienient heart attack, and used that as an excuse....... Now if Rick was facing a medical issue himself, it would be understandable. His child who was born with this medical condition, no. He knew the chances of this happening and should never had been in Iowa in the beginning. For crying out loud,did anyone listen to his speech yesterday. The beginning of it made it sound like only the sick and infirm were his volunteer backers, and no one of sound health was backing him. And he was the harshest critic of National Health care out there on the political landscape.
I felt the speech yesterday was humiliating for him and his followers.
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Post by Tennesseer on Apr 11, 2012 8:45:46 GMT -5
" want to know if Santorum is being honest with us. He knew up front that his child was ill before he got in the race. He knew what was ahead for him and his family."
VB-I will give Santorum the benefit of the doubt and say his family came first and his poll numbers/delegate count came second in his decisions.
His daughter's time on earth is limited. And Santorum knows it. But during the campaign season he has had to head back home I believe twice to attend to her after she became ill. Santorum is smart enough to know were he elected president national and world crises would not/could not be put on hold due to his daughter's health and possible death.
If he stood for nothing else it was family. That is commendable. Santorum, you and I know the country will still stand even if Santorum is out of the race.
As for the VP slot, only Romney and his closest advisers have any inkling whom the chosen few under consideration are at this time. Time will tell.
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Post by billisonboard on Apr 11, 2012 9:02:51 GMT -5
I think that it is critical timing for the Romney campaign to get the message now that Santorum is not an acceptable choice for the VP slot. I am sure it is being discussed at the upper levels and word is being disseminated at this level.
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Post by floridayankee on Apr 11, 2012 9:16:27 GMT -5
all told, this is a good move for him. i wish him the best. Agreed. Now if we could just get Gingrich and Romney to drop out.....
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