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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Feb 6, 2012 11:00:05 GMT -5
Does Newt think Obama will not run a scorched-Earth, dishonest campaign? Does he think he won't be outspent by Obama? C'mon, buddy.
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Post by reasonfreedom on Feb 6, 2012 11:08:38 GMT -5
I keep reading the title as "Newt is screwing the pig" But I agree with the posters that say this has become a personal vendetta, not a campaign. I'm hearing everything that's bad about Romney, but nothing about why I need to vote for Newt. Yeah- it harkens back to the days when Newt was whining about getting a bad seat on Air Force One. I had hoped he had moved on- he has such good ideas. Even the "moon colony" idea, if you listen to his in-depth explanation, isn't a bad idea. He's got to let this personal stuff go. yeah, I listened to his explanation of how he would do it. He would use the Private companies for 90% of the funding..... and then I stopped listening. I agree with Romney on this, no company is going to spend billions of dollars to support a risky investment like that. Look at the government spending millions on green energy, we can't even get that right without the companies filing bankruptcy. If I had my own huge private company and Gingrich ask me to support the moon base after seeing what Obama has done with the green projects I would be laughing my arse off at him.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Feb 6, 2012 14:37:12 GMT -5
Well, the 10% could come from NASA's current budget, and you could freeze that budget. There's no need to spend "more" money. Nor, is there a need for NASA, which isn't doing d*ck right now to get an ever-increasing budget.
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Post by reasonfreedom on Feb 6, 2012 14:51:32 GMT -5
Well, the 10% could come from NASA's current budget, and you could freeze that budget. There's no need to spend "more" money. Nor, is there a need for NASA, which isn't doing d*ck right now to get an ever-increasing budget. I agree with the NASA budget not even really needed. If we want space exploration that is great, but I think we should have a stable environment here on earth before we try to evolve beyond our boundaries of intelligence(especially when our pocket books are involved).
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 6, 2012 15:14:25 GMT -5
Well, the 10% could come from NASA's current budget, and you could freeze that budget. There's no need to spend "more" money. Nor, is there a need for NASA, which isn't doing d*ck right now to get an ever-increasing budget. I agree with the NASA budget not even really needed. If we want space exploration that is great, but I think we should have a stable environment here on earth before we try to evolve beyond our boundaries of intelligence(especially when our pocket books are involved). i think just the opposite. the less money we spend on a sustainable future, the more we need space exploration. those two amounts should be part of one single budget.
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Post by billisonboard on Feb 6, 2012 15:38:04 GMT -5
Newt has promised a moon station will exist by 2020. He has stated that only 10% will be government money. The other 90% will be private funds. How can he promise that adequate private funds will be there to meet his goal? Tax breaks (i.e. government funds deferred)? Forced expenditures (i.e. fascism)? Convincing people to spend it using his personal charm?
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Post by reasonfreedom on Feb 6, 2012 15:39:32 GMT -5
I agree with the NASA budget not even really needed. If we want space exploration that is great, but I think we should have a stable environment here on earth before we try to evolve beyond our boundaries of intelligence(especially when our pocket books are involved). i think just the opposite. the less money we spend on a sustainable future, the more we need space exploration. those two amounts should be part of one single budget. Why do we need space exploration?
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 6, 2012 15:52:34 GMT -5
i think just the opposite. the less money we spend on a sustainable future, the more we need space exploration. those two amounts should be part of one single budget. Why do we need space exploration? as a survival tool.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Feb 6, 2012 16:16:21 GMT -5
I agree with the NASA budget not even really needed. If we want space exploration that is great, but I think we should have a stable environment here on earth before we try to evolve beyond our boundaries of intelligence(especially when our pocket books are involved). i think just the opposite. the less money we spend on a sustainable future, the more we need space exploration. those two amounts should be part of one single budget. Ahhh, yes the neo-pagan "Wall-E" apocalypse...
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Post by reasonfreedom on Feb 6, 2012 16:39:06 GMT -5
Why do we need space exploration? as a survival tool. How many years do you think it will take before it can become a valid survival tool? How much money too?
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 6, 2012 16:44:14 GMT -5
i think just the opposite. the less money we spend on a sustainable future, the more we need space exploration. those two amounts should be part of one single budget. Ahhh, yes the neo-pagan "Wall-E" apocalypse... something like that. again, i would prefer we look toward a sustainable future. however, until we do, i think space is a very good idea. ;]
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 6, 2012 16:44:57 GMT -5
How many years do you think it will take before it can become a valid survival tool? centuriesHow much money too? trillions
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Post by Don Perignon on Feb 6, 2012 17:41:38 GMT -5
Cannibalizing Spaceship Earth to build a lifeboat... in which to sail lifeless barren seas... what a plan.
I figure Spaceship Earth and its repair should take priority. If we keep the mothership from sinking, the lifeboats to nowhere are superfluous.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 6, 2012 21:21:28 GMT -5
Cannibalizing Spaceship Earth to build a lifeboat... in which to sail lifeless barren seas... what a plan. I figure Spaceship Earth and its repair should take priority. If we keep the mothership from sinking, the lifeboats to nowhere are superfluous. if i wasn't already clear, that is my preference, as well. however, i don't see any tendency right now other than to decimation.
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Post by Don Perignon on Feb 6, 2012 22:21:54 GMT -5
Newt missing the photo opp is not nearly as big a deal as Newt being ineligible for the votes of delegates from his own home state... that neglectful failure sent a powerful message.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Feb 6, 2012 23:24:52 GMT -5
Newt missing the photo opp is not nearly as big a deal as Newt being ineligible for the votes of delegates from his own home state... that neglectful failure sent a powerful message. Well, I have a different take on that issue. It is a screwup- no doubt. However, as much as we worry about showing ID when we vote and all the rest of it-- I think it is entirely too difficult to get on a ballot. The flaming hoops a person has to jump through in many states deliberately deters candidates and limits choice. And there's nothing stopping VA voters from writing Newt in.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Feb 6, 2012 23:26:16 GMT -5
Ahhh, yes the neo-pagan "Wall-E" apocalypse... something like that. again, i would prefer we look toward a sustainable future. however, until we do, i think space is a very good idea. ;] I fully support your efforts to leave the planet.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 7, 2012 22:15:59 GMT -5
something like that. again, i would prefer we look toward a sustainable future. however, until we do, i think space is a very good idea. ;] I fully support your efforts to leave the planet. karma points are not going to do it. let's play for cash next time.
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Post by billisonboard on Feb 7, 2012 22:40:44 GMT -5
... And there's nothing stopping VA voters from writing Newt in. Sure, but there is something that will stop those votes from being counted: Newt Gingrich’s plan to wage a write-in campaign for Virginia’s GOP presidential primary may be dead on arrival. Virginia state law specifically prohibits voters from writing in candidates not on the ballot in primary elections. politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/12/24/write-ins-prohibited-in-virginia-primaries/
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 7, 2012 22:57:57 GMT -5
And there's nothing stopping VA voters from writing Newt in. yes there is. write in candidates are not allowed in the VA primary.
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Post by billisonboard on Feb 8, 2012 0:54:26 GMT -5
Is there an echo in here.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 9, 2012 1:50:12 GMT -5
Is there an echo in here. i didn't see your response before i typed mine, bills. but yes, you are correct. what, do you want a frooging karma or something?
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