Newt's divorces

[Opti]

I searched on Newt's first divorce due to a comment cme gave in another thread. I think its interesting how similar Newt's pattern appears to be for both divorces. If long term planning for mistress to wife was has only foible I wouldn't be all that concerned but this makes me think more ethical breaches are in his future especially if he got the opportunity to be President.

Not sure how legit this first site is but it references the Equire article.
Interesting how wife #2 got told she was on the way out when she was seriously ill too.

In 1999, after refusing to take the seat he won in the 1998 elections, Newt Gingrich left his second wife, Marianne, for a much-younger staffer with whom he’d been having an almost-ignored affair. As in his first marriage, he did so shortly after Marianne was diagnosed with a serious illness; as in his first divorce, he fought Marianne tooth and nail over any financial settlement. And then he had the Atlanta archdiocese inform Marianne that their marriage was invalid in the eyes of his fiancée’s faith; 9 years later, he completed his conversion to Catholicism.
Oh noooooooooooooooz, does this mean his repentence and conversion to Catholicism isn't sincere?


tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/08/gingrich_profile_featuring_ex-wife_begets_question.php


Newt Gingrich filed a divorce complaint on July 14, 1980, in Carroll County, saying that "the marriage of the parties is irretriebably (sic) broken."

Jackie Battley Gingrich, the congressman's wife and the mother of Jackie Gingrich Cushman, responded by asking the judge to reject her husband's filing.

"Defendant shows that she has adequate and ample grounds for divorce, but that she does not desire one at this time," her petition said.
Looks like Newt and daughter haven't been telling the truth per the court documents. Interesting reading.

www.cnn.com/2011/12/26/politics/gingrich-divorce-file/index.html

[gavinsnana]

Good Grief.. who the heck cares? 10 years ago? Gawd. just hang him from the cross already..

He screwed up.. most people do.. he moved on.. so should others.

[billisonboard]

Feb 1, 2012 21:29:48 GMT -5 gavinsnana said:

... he moved on.. ...

He certainly did move on. And then he moved on again.

[Don Perignon]

Like a good manager, Newt always had an alternate project in the pipeline... "shovel-ready", as it were.
Unfortunately, his advance preparations were in direct conflict with Oaths and Vows he had Sworn to uphold. He proved that as "a man of his word", he is worthless.
False, fickle and a betrayer.

Forgive him all you want, but keep him the hell out of the Oval Office.

[Opti]

The first article is more interesting in that it points to the fact Newt is erratic under stress. Do you want a potentially crazy President?

In 1997, Gingrich was fined $300,000 by the House for ethics violations related to college courses and a non-profit. He and Marianne didn’t have the money, so he began to write a book. But the book didn’t turn out as anyone expected: it was a dramatic apology that Marianne described as “weird.” With his inner circle, she attempted to edit it into something publishable — but they ended up scrapping the manuscript entirely.

After the book petered out in 1997, Marianne said that his behavior began to deteriorate.

After that, Gingrich started to deteriorate. There were times, Marianne says, when he wasn’t functioning. He started yelling at people, which he’d never done before, and he’d get weirdly “overfocused” on getting things done — manic, as if he was running out of time. He took to taking meetings while eating, slurping his food, as if he wasn’t aware or didn’t care how strange it looked. The staff responded with gallows humor: “He’s a sociopath, but he’s our sociopath.”Marianne said that, in the summer of 1997, Republican leadership attempted to stage an intervention with Marianne’s help. The problem was Gingrich’s “volcanic” temper — and when Gingrich arrived a the meeting, they told him that his anger was dysfunctional, and the dysfunction was causing the American people to turn against Congress and the Republicans. Gingrich appeared to listen - but, according to Marianne, “But from then on his behavior only got more erratic.” Despite his increasingly erratic behavior, Gingrich proceeded to hammer out several compromises with the Clinton Administration to balance the budget and cut taxes — until 1998, when the Lewinsky scandal exploded.


His divorces show a scary pattern and that's why I find them relevant. The guy has lied about his first divorce and he doesn't seem to care all that much about truth. From the first link:

Bisek and Gingrich had reportedly been having an affairs for 6 years before Gingrich told Marianne.

After Gingrich’s phoned-in confession, they talked at their home — just after he’d given a speech in Erie, Pennsylvania about the importance of family values. She told Esquire she asked him how he could give such a speech days after he’s admitted his affair to her and asked her to tolerate it

“It doesn’t matter what I do,” he answered. “People need to hear what I have to say. There’s no one else who can say what I can say. It doesn’t matter what I live.”

Perhaps the bolded statement only bothers me.

[gavinsnana]

Feb 1, 2012 21:34:22 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Feb 1, 2012 21:29:48 GMT -5 gavinsnana said:

... he moved on.. ...

He certainly did move on. And then he moved on again.

You mean like Clinton? Edwards?

[gavinsnana]

Feb 1, 2012 21:40:25 GMT -5 Don Perignon said:

Like a good manager, Newt always had an alternate project in the pipeline... "shovel-ready", as it were.
Unfortunately, his advance preparations were in direct conflict with Oaths and Vows he had Sworn to uphold. He proved that as "a man of his word", he is worthless.
False, fickle and a betrayer.

Forgive him all you want, but keep him the hell out of the Oval Office.

Not up to me, but the voters. I am not sure who I support.. Romney or Newt.

And if we don't want cheaters or womanizers in the Oval office, then it will never get filled.. Remember our beloved Clinton???

[billisonboard]

[djAdvocate]

Feb 1, 2012 21:34:22 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Feb 1, 2012 21:29:48 GMT -5 gavinsnana said:

... he moved on.. ...

He certainly did move on. And then he moved on again.

i suspect he will move on yet again. he seems to have a "Hugh Hefner" problem.

[djAdvocate]

Feb 1, 2012 21:46:11 GMT -5 gavinsnana said:

Feb 1, 2012 21:40:25 GMT -5 Don Perignon said:

Like a good manager, Newt always had an alternate project in the pipeline... "shovel-ready", as it were.
Unfortunately, his advance preparations were in direct conflict with Oaths and Vows he had Sworn to uphold. He proved that as "a man of his word", he is worthless.
False, fickle and a betrayer.

Forgive him all you want, but keep him the hell out of the Oval Office.

Not up to me, but the voters. I am not sure who I support.. Romney or Newt.

And if we don't want cheaters or womanizers in the Oval office, then it will never get filled.. Remember our beloved Clinton???

Obama seems like a good sort of "family man".

[Tennesseer]

Hopefully Callista doesn't get sick. Newt asked Marianne for a divorce soon after she was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis. Jackie Gingrich developed uterine cancer during her relationship with Newt.

[billisonboard]

Feb 1, 2012 21:44:23 GMT -5 gavinsnana said:

Feb 1, 2012 21:34:22 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

He certainly did move on. And then he moved on again.

You mean like Clinton? Edwards?

You mean Bill Clinton, the man who has been married to Hillary Clinton for over 35 years? (Yes, he had (most likely) multiple affairs during that time.)

[weltschmerz]

Feb 1, 2012 21:29:48 GMT -5 gavinsnana said:

Good Grief.. who the heck cares? 10 years ago? Gawd. just hang him from the cross already..

He screwed up.. most people do.. he moved on.. so should others.

Move on? Lol! OK, we'll move on when the right moves on from the
Alinski crap. Wasn't Obama something like 10 when Alinski died? That was 40 years ago!
Good grief, indeed!

[EVT1]

Till inconvenience do us part....

[weltschmerz]

And then he had the Atlanta archdiocese inform Marianne that their marriage was invalid in the eyes of his fiancée’s faith;
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Her faith? HER FAITH?

I wonder what her faith says about boinking a married man? Perhaps she got a special dispensation frm the pope.

Her faith. Give me a break. Those two reptiles will NEVER be in the White House.

[djAdvocate]

again, if marital fidelity and concern over the welfare of children is what you are after, then you should vote for Obama. it would be hard to do better.

if, on the other hand, family issues are NOT your concern, then that leaves Newt in the pool for you.

it is really quite simple.

[dumdeedoe]

In order to "qualify" as a narcissist, a person must meet some or all of the below criteria:

•Inability to empathy
•Expects special treatment
•Feeling of entitlement
•Inability to admit that he or she is wrong
•Inability to receive criticism
•Unexpected, strong bursts of rage in situations that would not trigger rage in normal people. There aggressive outbursts are referred to as narcissistic rage.
•Does not react to tears. If other person starts crying due to the cruel behavior of a narcissist, that may even aggravate the rage of a narcissist
•Perceives oneself as omnipotent, superior individual
•Strong need for admiration. Admiration serves as a form of a narcissistic supply. Without sufficient amount of narcissistic supply a narcissist feels empty and unsatisfied. A narcissist is like a drug addict, and narcissistic supply in its different forms is the drug.
•Is often envious and mocks other people (often behind their back)
•In the beginning of the relationship idealizes one's partner and often talks about supreme, never-ending love. However as the relationship proceeds a narcissist often withdraws his or her attention and may become cold and uncaring, even cruel.
•Is often untruthful and due to this often ends up cheating in a relationship. Cheating is often a consequence of other traits of a narcissist, such as the feeling of entitlement (it is impossible for a narcissist to do anything wrong and so a narcissist does not perceive cheating to be a huge "crime"), inability to emphasize with the cheated partner and the need for admiration (narcissistic supply).
•Double standards: A narcissist twists the rules so that they fit to the current needs of a narcissist. For example, if the spouse of a narcissist is cheating on a narcissist, the spouse is considered to be dishonest and bad person, whereas if a narcissist is cheating it is not wrong, because a narcissist simply "fell in love" and followed his or her heart. Double standards also apply to other areas in life.

psychcentral.com/news/2011/08/10/narcissists-make-poor-leaders/28499.html
nuff said.......

[Tennesseer]

I recognize a few folks with all those traits and they aren't politicians or actors.

[Opti]

Thanks for posting that. My biggest concern is with Newt's personality as a narcissist he
may cause problems with foreign leaders when he does that special tell it like it is thing he loves to do. A temper tantrum would be pretty special too.

[djAdvocate]

Feb 2, 2012 0:10:39 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

I recognize a few folks with all those traits and they aren't politicians or actors.

let's hope they stay that way.