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Post by Don Perignon on Jan 20, 2012 19:40:09 GMT -5
(Coincidentally, BTW, "opp" is the chinese word for "duck")
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Post by billisonboard on Jan 20, 2012 19:42:38 GMT -5
This storm isn't being hyped. It's the remnants of the one that passed over the PNW yesterday. ... I am sitting on a mountain in Eastern Washington and its looking like we might have more to send you.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jan 20, 2012 19:49:53 GMT -5
This storm isn't being hyped. It's the remnants of the one that passed over the PNW yesterday. The supermarket was about as busy as it gets, except that it hadn't quite hit that fevered pitch of desperation that accompanies the hyped storms. We had about four inches of the light fluffy stuff last night, temps currently in the lower twenties F, we're forecast to get another six to eight more inches tomorrow morning & afternoon. Hence "busy bee" stage, rather than "panic mode". Us old-timers know it could be significantly less or more than predicted. On a whim, I picked up a duck to roast on Sunday... $18 plus change, a nice fat one, a little over five lbs. I'll probably do it with an apricot glaze. I think it was in the winter of '93 when I was living in N.H. when a large, dangerous snow storm was scheduled to head up the coast and give N.H. at least 24 inches of snow. It was supposed to start on a late Saturday afternoon. I think I went to the food store three times that Saturday-you never know how many months you could be stranded at home. Bought enough food to feed five busloads of snow-stranded teenagers for a week.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jan 20, 2012 19:52:04 GMT -5
This storm isn't being hyped. It's the remnants of the one that passed over the PNW yesterday. ... I am sitting on a mountain in Eastern Washington and its looking like we might have more to send you. Possible severe thunderstorms overnight for us. Late winter/spring tornado season is fast approaching.
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Post by mmhmm on Jan 20, 2012 19:56:41 GMT -5
We're expecting rain and thunderstorms for the next few days, as well. Temps ranging from the 60s to the mid-40s. Blech. Ah, well. At least, we're not predicted to have snow up to our armpits!
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Post by weltschmerz on Jan 20, 2012 20:35:47 GMT -5
On a whim, I picked up a duck to roast on Sunday... $18 plus change, a nice fat one, a little over five lbs. I'll probably do it with an apricot glaze. ------------------ Sounds wonderful! I usually stuff mine with onions and apples, and make a honey-lime glaze. Problem is, the skin never gets crispy enough. The restaurant ovens burn much hotter.
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Post by weltschmerz on Jan 20, 2012 20:45:25 GMT -5
This gives me a bad taste in my mouth as he divorced this woman 14 years ago and all of a sudden she is on all the morning talk shows? Shades of Herman Cain when he was the front runner. Where did all these women and Gloria Allred disappear to? The story just died. I say it was all about money after surfacing more than a decade ago. ------------------------ You really hate women, don't you? You're a disgrace to the sisterhood. Any time there's a breath of scandal, you blame the women. Contraception? Who needs it? It's not important. Female candidates? We already have one, and don't need any more. Good thing that feminists still fight for the rights of women like you. You're welcome.
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Post by diamonds on Jan 20, 2012 21:35:33 GMT -5
Your post shows poor judgement and lack of courtesy, which only mirrors your own true colors.
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Post by SweetVirginia on Jan 20, 2012 22:13:34 GMT -5
This gives me a bad taste in my mouth as he divorced this woman 14 years ago and all of a sudden she is on all the morning talk shows? Shades of Herman Cain when he was the front runner. Where did all these women and Gloria Allred disappear to? The story just died. I say it was all about money after surfacing more than a decade ago. ------------------------ You really hate women, don't you? You're a disgrace to the sisterhood. Any time there's a breath of scandal, you blame the women. Contraception? Who needs it? It's not important. Female candidates? We already have one, and don't need any more. Good thing that feminists still fight for the rights of women like you. You're welcome. Right on sista!!
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Post by diamonds on Jan 20, 2012 22:41:42 GMT -5
I call it as I see it whether it be man or woman. Two days before the primary Newt's ex-wife goes on ABC and talks publicly about the details of their marriage which ended 14 years ago. She has no corroboration to back this story up. If you like 'gutter snipe" such as rag magazines then you are gullible. He got a standing ovation as he is quick on his feet and is a warrior. The debate was supposed to be on pressing issues of our country and we all know his past already. As far as the birth control, I do NOT approve of the State handing it out to teens. It's up to the parents to decide what is best for their child.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jan 20, 2012 22:57:25 GMT -5
'' She has no corroboration to back this story up." You're right. She was never there.
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Post by mmhmm on Jan 20, 2012 23:12:49 GMT -5
The ex-Mrs. Gingrich was invited to speak on ABC, she didn't just go in and demand to speak on Nightline. She was asked questions about her marriage, and she answered them. None of us knows what happened between those two, and none of us is, therefore, capable of determining the truth (or lack of same) of her statements, or Newt's statements refuting hers.
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Post by diamonds on Jan 20, 2012 23:25:03 GMT -5
The ex-Mrs. Gingrich was invited to speak on ABC, she didn't just go in and demand to speak on Nightline. She was asked questions about her marriage, and she answered them. None of us knows what happened between those two, and none of us is, therefore, capable of determining the truth (or lack of same) of her statements, or Newt's statements refuting hers. So then tell me, why would she opt to do it two days before the primary and btw, we didn't want to know the details. We were well aware of his past history before she came out at this suspicious time.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jan 20, 2012 23:27:13 GMT -5
Why don't you ask her Diamonds.
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Post by mmhmm on Jan 20, 2012 23:28:08 GMT -5
My guess? The interview was scheduled well ahead of time, as the vast majority are. Why did ABC air it when they did? That question would have to be directed to them, not to me and not to the ex-Mrs. Gingrich. While you might not have wanted to know the details (and the details weren't actually disclosed, thankfully!), ABC had questions to ask and they asked them. She answered.
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Post by diamonds on Jan 20, 2012 23:30:15 GMT -5
Your post shows poor judgement and lack of courtesy, which only mirrors your own true colors. Your post was totally uncalled for and judgmental, Weltz. You obviously know very little about Diamonds. It's ok lone, it's just amazing what some people can get away with. If welts has to vent her venom towards me she can do it by PM. I truly do not appreciate such rash accusations.
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Post by diamonds on Jan 20, 2012 23:38:55 GMT -5
Not worth butting up against the cliques...Nite...
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 21, 2012 0:04:42 GMT -5
The ex-Mrs. Gingrich was invited to speak on ABC, she didn't just go in and demand to speak on Nightline. She was asked questions about her marriage, and she answered them. None of us knows what happened between those two, and none of us is, therefore, capable of determining the truth (or lack of same) of her statements, or Newt's statements refuting hers. So then tell me, why would she opt to do it two days before the primary and btw, we didn't want to know the details. We were well aware of his past history before she came out at this suspicious time. i don't believe that i had heard the open marriage thing before. not that i care. i don't. it would not cause me to vote either for or against him.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2012 9:01:46 GMT -5
Two days before the primary is what makes it news - I'd give credit to Brian Ross and the producers at ABC. (Although it is two days before the 3rd primary - pretty much the past 3 months, every day has been "right before the debate" or "right before the primary")
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2012 9:13:48 GMT -5
i don't believe that i had heard the open marriage thing before. not that i care. i don't. it would not cause me to vote either for or against him. I think the timing was never right to really screw him before now. When he was Speaker, and during the ethics investigations, it seems like she didn't yet know about the affair with his now-wife (although, impressive that a public figure could keep a 7 year affair a secret). A scorned woman needs to be patient. She could have thrown him under the bus when one of his books or something came out, but that probably would have only increased sales. I think the evidence is pretty clear that Gingrich is a *terrible* husband. And I would strongly discourage any of you from marrying him. But, that really only impacts Calista Gingrich, and whoever he has lined up next. I think your vote for POTUS should be based on his policy record and positions.
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Post by Opti on Jan 21, 2012 9:16:33 GMT -5
Two days before the primary is what makes it news - I'd give credit to Brian Ross and the producers at ABC. (Although it is two days before the 3rd primary - pretty much the past 3 months, every day has been "right before the debate" or "right before the primary") Yes, ABC determines the date and time not the interviewee whoever they are.
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Post by Opti on Jan 21, 2012 9:23:31 GMT -5
Given his ethics violations and how he started affairs and then eventually married them to me shows he's in it for himself and he will plot and plan for years. He may have some good ideas but the fact that he is willing to throw anyone under the bus to gain personal advantage is not something I want in a high ranking politician.
While he might have changed I still believe his conversion to Catholicism was a calculated move politically probably to set up this Presidential run.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2012 10:12:42 GMT -5
Can you elaborate on that, lonewolf?
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Post by zibazinski on Jan 21, 2012 10:19:26 GMT -5
Look, you show me an honest politician and I'll show you someone who will never get re- elected. They are all schmucks. But the affairs thing really bothers me. Divorcing a sick wife for this scorned wife and then divorcing her for a newer model is just bad politics.
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Post by billisonboard on Jan 21, 2012 10:45:50 GMT -5
Can you elaborate on that, lonewolf? How many of us here would be willing to go public with the skeletons in OUR closets? ... With Newt it isn't a matter of "going" public. He was "public" when he did some of these things. He wasn't charged as a college student with ethical violations. His second affair/divorce wasn't when he was young and dumb. He was Speaker of the House when those took place.
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Post by Opti on Jan 21, 2012 10:47:46 GMT -5
Can you elaborate on that, lonewolf? How many of us here would be willing to go public with the skeletons in OUR closets? How can we hold our leaders to higher standards than we hold ourselves? Who here hasn't cheated on their spouse or their taxes, smoked dope, walked out of a store with too much change, run a red light, drove drunk, lied to a boss about being sick, took something that didn't belong to them. Very few, I'm sure. We're hypocrites. Not everything on your list is used against politicians to my knowledge only those I've bolded. Stealing on a large level is a problem, hence the italics, but I've yet to see any politician or public figure for that matter outed for taking too many pens home or using the office copier for personal business. I personally haven't done any of the bold items. I probably have walked out of the grocery store with too much change and too little. And occasionally pens from work don't always make it back. I may be out of line here, but that doesn't compare to Gingrich's ethic violations or what Edwards did to his wife. Some of us are much better behaved than politicians.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jan 21, 2012 10:48:52 GMT -5
Can you elaborate on that, lonewolf? How many of us here would be willing to go public with the skeletons in OUR closets? How can we hold our leaders to higher standards than we hold ourselves? Who here hasn't cheated on their spouse or their taxes, smoked dope, walked out of a store with too much change, run a red light, drove drunk, lied to a boss about being sick, took something that didn't belong to them. Very few, I'm sure. We're hypocrites. None of 'us' are running for the highest office in the United States and the most powerful person in the world. Those that do run are held to much higher standards and rightly so.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2012 10:49:32 GMT -5
Can you elaborate on that, lonewolf? How many of us here would be willing to go public with the skeletons in OUR closets? How can we hold our leaders to higher standards than we hold ourselves? Who here hasn't cheated on their spouse or their taxes, smoked dope, walked out of a store with too much change, run a red light, drove drunk, lied to a boss about being sick, took something that didn't belong to them. Very few, I'm sure. We're hypocrites. I admit I'm no angel, but on that list, I think I am good. I have lied to a boss about the type of sick, but I don't really feel like my symptoms are their business. I swear a lot. Sometimes I cheat at Scrabble. I'm not perfect, but I own my shortcomings. That I think is the difference. Drug use wasn't a liability for Bush or Obama - part of that is a generational shift, but part of it is that they owned up to it.
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Post by mmhmm on Jan 21, 2012 11:12:54 GMT -5
I don't have any skeletons I wouldn't want made public if I were running for the highest office in this land. If I get too much change, and notice it, I give the extra back. I smoked dope as a young woman but gave it up and haven't touched it in over 40 years, so I think I'm safe there. I've never run a red light purposefully, to my knowledge. I don't lie to my boss about being sick. I'll go to work if I'm able to go to work. I don't drink and have never driven drunk. I suppose, if you went back to childhood, you could find I've taken things that didn't belong to me, but I buy my own pens for work. I never cheated on my husband, and I don't cheat on my taxes. While I'm no angel, I try to avoid doing things that are just plain wrong. I'm a procrastinator, but I try to work on that.
Most of the stuff you mentioned, lonewolf, while not the best behavior, doesn't even come close to cheating on two wives in succession; nor, does it compare to the ethical violations he was charged with while Speaker of the House.
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Post by diamonds on Jan 21, 2012 12:26:17 GMT -5
Michael Reagan just endorsed Newt. Recalling the 60's he said when JFK was running for President, it was reported that he was seen coming out of hotels with many different women. Nixon was asked if he would use that against him in the election. He said "no'. Presidents, candidates, rock stars are in the limelight and have power and women are attracted to that. That's just how the world turns. We don't have to account for their personal life standards, only our own. You name a politican or President who was a perfect role model in every area of this life and I would like to hear it. Yes, Jackie knew and Hillary knew, but they overlooked it to present a united front. Getting into the dirt behind closed doors should not be the primary issues, as they ALL have it. The only one semi-squeaky clean in this election is Santorum, and even though he was on fire the other night, Newt is obvioulsy the quickest and on target with his responses. That's what we need to defeat Barack Hussein Obama.
You talk about ethics in politics? There are no holds barred especially when it comes to the tax cheats.
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