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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 19, 2012 10:34:57 GMT -5
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Post by Opti on Jan 19, 2012 10:42:58 GMT -5
Fine. Start another Newt thread. I've copied my post here and will delete the other one. Given the daughters make their living full or in part by Newt they are painting him in the best light they can to keep the bucks flowing IMO. Odds that any or all of them are telling the truth is probably slim. Apparently wife#2 has an interview that will be airing on TV in the near future. I read some of the comments and I did enjoy this one. Don't forget this man resigned from the highest position in the Republican Party because his fellow Republicans wanted him out, due to 84 ethics violations!? It was the first time in US history a Speaker had been disciplined (fined $300K) The man will resort to any pandering, he can to protect his ass. He is just promoting his brand for his post presidential book and speech tour. He didn't just divorce his first two wives, he victimized them. Telling his first wife, he wanted to divorce her, while having an affair and visiting her in a hospital (with cancer) after her surgery. All while leading an investigation against President Clinton (the Lewinsky affair). He then married the women he had his first affair with but eventually had another affair while married to her. Can you say hypocrite? He treated his first two wives with contempt, while behaving unconscionably. He is an immoral, philandering, lying low life, scum sucking, dog. Using his children as political capital is despicable. Gee Republicans run this man for President! LOLAnother one was something like, Newt, I cheated for my country. LOLThe article revealed parts of a letter from the daughters of Newt, both who make money from Newt being who he is, requesting the interview not address things that are a decade old or older. (MSN home page I think)
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 19, 2012 11:02:15 GMT -5
I'm trying to see if I can equal the number of Ron Paul threads. I doubt it, but it's worth a shot.
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Post by floridayankee on Jan 19, 2012 11:15:13 GMT -5
You gotta wonder what kind of a place you have to be in to be the media's bitch in a political hack job for Obamney? ...or why we really care to know anything about their private marriage from a disgruntled ex-wife.
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Post by floridayankee on Jan 19, 2012 11:16:45 GMT -5
Fine. Start another Newt thread. I've copied my post here and will delete the other one. Given the daughters make their living full or in part by Newt they are painting him in the best light they can to keep the bucks flowing IMO. Odds that any or all of them are telling the truth is probably slim. What are the odds of a disgruntled ex wife telling the truth?
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 19, 2012 11:16:53 GMT -5
You gotta wonder what kind of a place you have to be in to be the media's bitch in a political hack job for Obamney? ...or why we really care to know anything about their private marriage from a disgruntled ex-wife. This is a media hit piece design to destroy Newt because they know if Newt gets the nomination, he will eviscerate Obama in the general election. The media and Obama have their hearts set on Romney, and Newt is the only candidate threatening to upset their little plan.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jan 19, 2012 11:21:09 GMT -5
...or why we really care to know anything about their private marriage from a disgruntled ex-wife. This is a media hit piece design to destroy Newt because they know if Newt gets the nomination, he will eviscerate Obama in the general election. The media and Obama have their hearts set on Romney, and Newt is the only candidate threatening to upset their little plan. It's not as if Newt's cheatin, schemin ways hasn't been news for a while.
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Post by floridayankee on Jan 19, 2012 11:23:32 GMT -5
This is a media hit piece design to destroy Newt because they know if Newt gets the nomination, he will eviscerate Obama in the general election. The media and Obama have their hearts set on Romney, and Newt is the only candidate threatening to upset their little plan. If this is a hit piece I have to say....weak. Who gives a rats ass what kind of marriage newt and/or ex #whatever wanted? I don't care if they wanted gay monkey sex....It's their personal business. Newt has so many more legitimate things to bitch about and this is the best ABC can come up with. Their aim sucks.
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Post by Opti on Jan 19, 2012 11:27:07 GMT -5
...or why we really care to know anything about their private marriage from a disgruntled ex-wife. This is a media hit piece design to destroy Newt because they know if Newt gets the nomination, he will eviscerate Obama in the general election. The media and Obama have their hearts set on Romney, and Newt is the only candidate threatening to upset their little plan. I think "the media" overall doesn't agree on any one candidate. The media includes FOX, ABC, and Howard Stern all of which probably have different views of who they want. What the media does want is viewers and to make money hence being subject to too much Brittany Spears, OJ, and other stuff. Obviously the station thinks they can get viewers and make money from this. I doubt most of the media or Obama is rooting for Romney over Newt. For all we know wife#2 shopped various TV stations to tell her story to make some money and this is where she got the best deal.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 19, 2012 11:40:45 GMT -5
This is a media hit piece design to destroy Newt because they know if Newt gets the nomination, he will eviscerate Obama in the general election. The media and Obama have their hearts set on Romney, and Newt is the only candidate threatening to upset their little plan. If this is a hit piece I have to say....weak. Who gives a rats ass what kind of marriage newt and/or ex #whatever wanted? I don't care if they wanted gay monkey sex....It's their personal business. Newt has so many more legitimate things to bitch about and this is the best ABC can come up with. Their aim sucks. Have you been to South Carolina or Georgia? Rick Santorum got 75% of that evangelical group for a reason. To say this won't have an impact in the Bible Belt is short sighted. It'll matter. And if I were running against Newt, or just wanted him out-- the character question is what I'd spend my time on. His conservative record, ideas, and debate prowess is too strong to combat.
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Post by zibazinski on Jan 19, 2012 12:05:46 GMT -5
Doesn't matter. GOP hasn't come up with a viable candidate, yet. Obama must be counting all the rest of the money he is going to get from four more years of soaking the country.
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Post by formerroomate99 on Jan 19, 2012 12:18:08 GMT -5
...or why we really care to know anything about their private marriage from a disgruntled ex-wife. This is a media hit piece design to destroy Newt because they know if Newt gets the nomination, he will eviscerate Obama in the general election. The media and Obama have their hearts set on Romney, and Newt is the only candidate threatening to upset their little plan. Considering how completely dishonorably this man has behaved in his private life, I can't see him ever being elected as president. He may be the most qualified of the canidates, but he is not a likeable guy and the media goes out of it's way to portray him in the worst light. And let's not forget the prejudices of the fundamentalist voters. Newt converted to Catholocism. There are a lot of moral conservatives voters out there who were raised from birth to think that the Catholic church is some weird cult and that a Catholic president would be controlled by the Pope.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 19, 2012 12:27:12 GMT -5
This is a media hit piece design to destroy Newt because they know if Newt gets the nomination, he will eviscerate Obama in the general election. The media and Obama have their hearts set on Romney, and Newt is the only candidate threatening to upset their little plan. Considering how completely dishonorably this man has behaved in his private life, I can't see him ever being elected as president. He may be the most qualified of the canidates, but he is not a likeable guy and the media goes out of it's way to portray him in the worst light. And let's not forget the prejudices of the fundamentalist voters. Newt converted to Catholocism. There are a lot of moral conservatives voters out there who were raised from birth to think that the Catholic church is some weird cult and that a Catholic president would be controlled by the Pope. Wish I could disagree. Still, it is pretty simple: 1. Newt gets the nomination and wins, or 2. Romney gets the nomination and loses. Newt can overcome the media- because of the two, only Newt realizes we're running against the Media. That fact (and numerous others- like Obama is a socialist) have yet to dawn on Romney.
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Post by Don Perignon on Jan 19, 2012 12:27:40 GMT -5
Lying, cheating, scheming, exploiting, backstabbing... Gingrich embodies all the "neo-con" core values.
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Post by pepper112765 on Jan 19, 2012 12:34:08 GMT -5
Fine. Start another Newt thread. I've copied my post here and will delete the other one. Given the daughters make their living full or in part by Newt they are painting him in the best light they can to keep the bucks flowing IMO. Odds that any or all of them are telling the truth is probably slim. What are the odds of a disgruntled ex wife telling the truth? About the same as his, I would guess.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2012 12:36:17 GMT -5
This is a media hit piece design to destroy Newt because they know if Newt gets the nomination, he will eviscerate Obama in the general election. You're in la la land if you think Newt will "eviscerate" Obama in the general election. Sure, Newt is the best debater of the bunch and may make Obummer look inferior in the debates, but that can't erase what he's done over his political career. He's a disgraced has-been politician that just pumping his name for future book sales. There's not one area in his life or career that's free from a black eye. His corruption has been proven on numerous occasions - from his lobbyist ties to Freddie and Fannie to his days as Speaker of House. He's never been in a position of power that he hasn't abused. He's the walking, talking poster boy of what's wrong with Washington. Newt will be eaten alive by the media if it's him vs Obummer.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 19, 2012 12:37:45 GMT -5
An ugly divorce is, unfortunately not new to voters. However, on a whole host of especially moral issues people seem to be able to disconnect from their own mess and stand in judgment.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 19, 2012 12:39:24 GMT -5
Bottom line is SC voters have to reach the conclusion in sufficient numbers-- that a vote for anyone other than Newt is a vote for Mitt Romney.
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Post by Don Perignon on Jan 19, 2012 12:44:18 GMT -5
9 months until the election, and the neo-con desperation is already at a fever pitch.
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Post by formerroomate99 on Jan 19, 2012 12:46:41 GMT -5
Yet, Romney has managed to be the media darling among the Republican canidates, so I wouldn't dicount him as being a mimbo just yet. He may be trying to play nice with the media by not speaking frankly about their canidate (Obama) so they won't shut him out when he gets the nomination and actually starts campaigning against Obama. There are certain advantages to being underestimated.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2012 12:51:48 GMT -5
Bottom line is SC voters have to reach the conclusion in sufficient numbers-- that a vote for anyone other than Newt is a vote for Mitt Romney.
You're grasping at straws now. Newt limped to a 4th place finish in both Iowa and NH. His campaign has put everything they have into SC. He has no national organization. He's not even on the ballot in Virginia. People that think Newt is the conservative alternative to Romney don't even understand conservatism anymore.
By the time the dust from Super Tuesday clears, only Romney and Ron Paul will remain. As much as Ron Paul doesn't have a chance, he's the only candidate outside of Romney that has a national organization and has a grassroots effort. National polls are a dragging indicator of actual momentum. Romney and Paul are the only two who's numbers are going up. Also notice Paul's national numbers keep showing a slow consistent growth. From 5% to 10% and now to 15-17%. The pundits keep changing his supposed ceiling? What will they say when his national numbers cross 20%?
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Post by Tennesseer on Jan 19, 2012 13:06:33 GMT -5
An ugly divorce is, unfortunately not new to voters. However, on a whole host of especially moral issues people seem to be able to disconnect from their own mess and stand in judgment. Don't you mean ugly divorces? My guess is Newt's biggest challenge (should he win the nomination) will be female voters come November. Don't underestimate female voters.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 19, 2012 13:09:00 GMT -5
An ugly divorce is, unfortunately not new to voters. However, on a whole host of especially moral issues people seem to be able to disconnect from their own mess and stand in judgment. Don't you mean ugly divorces? My guess is Newt's biggest challenge (should he win the nomination) will be female voters come November. Don't underestimate female voters. I don't. I'm not the slightest bit confused about the fact that this is going to have an impact. I think Newt can overcome it. I also think that, should Newt get the nomination, he will attract a surprising number of African American voters.
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Post by Don Perignon on Jan 19, 2012 13:15:09 GMT -5
Don't you mean ugly divorces? My guess is Newt's biggest challenge (should he win the nomination) will be female voters come November. Don't underestimate female voters. I don't. I'm not the slightest bit confused about the fact that this is going to have an impact. I think Newt can overcome it. I also think that, should Newt get the nomination, he will attract a surprising number of African American voters. You consistently amaze me by how you draw the most ridiculous conclusions from any statement. I seriously doubt that black voters will ever flock to support Gingrich... barring a successful attempt by Barack Obama to overturn the 13th Amendment.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 19, 2012 13:16:30 GMT -5
Perry states that forgiveness and redemption are central tenants of the Christian faith. The question is, will it be enough?
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 19, 2012 13:17:40 GMT -5
I don't. I'm not the slightest bit confused about the fact that this is going to have an impact. I think Newt can overcome it. I also think that, should Newt get the nomination, he will attract a surprising number of African American voters. You consistently amaze me by how you draw the most ridiculous conclusions from any statement. I seriously doubt that black voters will ever flock to support Gingrich... barring a successful attempt by Barack Obama to overturn the 13th Amendment. Black voters won't "flock" to any Republican. I said he'd get a surprising number of black voters- 15% to 20% would shock most people, but not me.
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Post by Don Perignon on Jan 19, 2012 13:24:46 GMT -5
If Gingrich got more than 2% of the black vote, it would qualify as a "surprising number", wouldn't it? LOL
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Post by Tennesseer on Jan 19, 2012 13:27:15 GMT -5
Don't you mean ugly divorces? My guess is Newt's biggest challenge (should he win the nomination) will be female voters come November. Don't underestimate female voters. I don't. I'm not the slightest bit confused about the fact that this is going to have an impact. I think Newt can overcome it. I also think that, should Newt get the nomination, he will attract a surprising number of African American voters. There is no doubt in my mind Herman Cain and Alan Keyes would vote for Newt.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 19, 2012 13:34:43 GMT -5
Ha. ha. ha. You're so funny.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jan 19, 2012 13:40:27 GMT -5
Ha. ha. ha. You're so funny. I bet you prophesied that too years ago.
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