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Post by SweetVirginia on Jan 7, 2012 14:29:39 GMT -5
oh yes, he is imposing his beliefs on everyone. He has no place in United States Democracy. He doesn't believe in it. The only laws that he is enforcing are the ones in the Constitution. Marriage between a man and a woman. As far as the brith control thing, he would NOT impose that on anyone, only for himself. He said it loud and clear. Maybe you should stop reading or listening to the left propaganda machine as with Herman Cain, and listen to his own words when asked. Enough and done. Maybe you should start reading...period. Second, Since when is Fox News part of the left propaganda machine?? It was on Fox News where I saw and heard Santorum say that this country always needs a Jesus candidate. Proof, in his own words.
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Post by billisonboard on Jan 7, 2012 14:38:54 GMT -5
Bill, I need to ask, why the sarcasm smiley? diamonds may not know that DOMA is not a constitutional law but, it is federal law. ... Because the thumbs up was a sarcastic symbol. I agree that DOMA is not a constitutional law. I wonder if the SCOTUS will make that same determination and void it.
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Post by steff on Jan 7, 2012 14:41:12 GMT -5
It's scary when even his supporters don't understand the Constitution.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 7, 2012 14:46:28 GMT -5
>>>it helps to have "feet on the ground", doesn't it?<<< How about high heels?... stop teasing the middle aged guy. it isn't nice.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 7, 2012 14:48:23 GMT -5
IMO,Santorum is going to have to do more than play the gay card to stay flavor of the month, but then again....... imo, if he fails to do so, he is going to get fed a generous helping of humble pie.
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Post by mmhmm on Jan 7, 2012 14:50:17 GMT -5
It's scary when even his supporters don't understand the Constitution. Nah. Not really. Diamonds admitted her error, and that she's learning as she goes. Heck, so am I! I've never been a politically-oriented individual, so I learn a great deal from what I read here, and on other sites that address politics. We can all learn, and learning is a good thing.
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Post by weltschmerz on Jan 7, 2012 14:53:09 GMT -5
It's scary when even his supporters don't understand the Constitution. ----------------- Even Canadians understand the American Constitution.
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Post by steff on Jan 7, 2012 14:54:26 GMT -5
It's scary when even his supporters don't understand the Constitution. Nah. Not really. Diamonds admitted her error, and that she's learning as she goes. Heck, so am I! I've never been a politically-oriented individual, so I learn a great deal from what I read here, and on other sites that address politics. We can all learn, and learning is a good thing. 2 seconds of research would let her know that marriage between a man & woman is NOT in the Constitution.
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Post by weltschmerz on Jan 7, 2012 14:57:26 GMT -5
I guess it's forgivable. Even Herman Cain couldn't tell the difference between the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence.
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Post by diamonds on Jan 7, 2012 16:04:52 GMT -5
It's scary when even his supporters don't understand the Constitution. Nah. Not really. Diamonds admitted her error, and that she's learning as she goes. Heck, so am I! I've never been a politically-oriented individual, so I learn a great deal from what I read here, and on other sites that address politics. We can all learn, and learning is a good thing. No worries, mmhmm, I come here for the wisdom of the polite people and most are. The sarcasm of a few I can surely block out, and simply shows their true colors to all...
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Post by billisonboard on Jan 7, 2012 16:09:12 GMT -5
Nah. Not really. Diamonds admitted her error, and that she's learning as she goes. Heck, so am I! I've never been a politically-oriented individual, so I learn a great deal from what I read here, and on other sites that address politics. We can all learn, and learning is a good thing. No worries, mmhmm, I come here for the wisdom of the polite people and most are. The sarcasm of a few I can surely block out, and simply shows their true colors to all... As long as you don't block out the message of truth because you don't approve of the way the message is delivered, it is all good.
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Post by Don Perignon on Jan 7, 2012 16:14:16 GMT -5
No worries, mmhmm, I come here for the wisdom of the polite people and most are. The sarcasm of a few I can surely block out, and simply shows their true colors to all... I call that snicker-worthy.
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Post by steff on Jan 7, 2012 16:15:13 GMT -5
Nah. Not really. Diamonds admitted her error, and that she's learning as she goes. Heck, so am I! I've never been a politically-oriented individual, so I learn a great deal from what I read here, and on other sites that address politics. We can all learn, and learning is a good thing. No worries, mmhmm, I come here for the wisdom of the polite people and most are. The sarcasm of a few I can surely block out, and simply shows their true colors to all... shows their true colors..... sounds like that is about the posters and not the topic. DOH!
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Post by mmhmm on Jan 7, 2012 16:15:56 GMT -5
I guess it's forgivable. Even Herman Cain couldn't tell the difference between the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence. LOL! I recall that, welts. In his case, I think better could most definitely have been expected!
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 7, 2012 16:24:52 GMT -5
It's scary when even his supporters don't understand the Constitution. ----------------- Even Canadians understand the American Constitution. so do the British. it is quite a humbling experience to travel abroad. the CHILDREN in the house i stayed in on foreign exchange could name not only the US president, but the VP and speaker, as well. that was in 1986. i remember thinking to myself: how many PEOPLE (let alone kids) could name the PM in 1986, the head of government, and the Speaker in the HOC?
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Post by SweetVirginia on Jan 7, 2012 17:22:05 GMT -5
Nah. Not really. Diamonds admitted her error, and that she's learning as she goes. Heck, so am I! I've never been a politically-oriented individual, so I learn a great deal from what I read here, and on other sites that address politics. We can all learn, and learning is a good thing. No worries, mmhmm, I come here for the wisdom of the polite people and most are. The sarcasm of a few I can surely block out, and simply shows their true colors to all... Perhaps when you start being polite and quit the sarcasm toward fellow posters, they will do the same toward you. exhibit A (diamonds) "Maybe you should stop reading or listening to the left propaganda machine as with Herman Cain, and listen to his own words when asked. Enough and done." True colors.
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Post by diamonds on Jan 7, 2012 18:46:11 GMT -5
SV: My true colors are admitting when I am wrong and I will admit it. I do not badger or troll someone for almost a page for an honest mistake they have made. I give credit where it is due, but I believe I do have a right to express my opinions as everyone else. I am not a liberal and do not care for the smearing by the liberal media. It is prevalent and biased. I do not nit-pick every candidate as there are none that are perfect. I want the best for my country as I have observed quite closely what is going on in this administration, which is lack of leadership and the excess of Federal spending which is reflective in our deficit. I do not push my beliefs on anyone, but am not shy to say what I believe in and those are my true colors.
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Post by mmhmm on Jan 7, 2012 18:56:26 GMT -5
I'm not a liberal, either, diamonds; nor, am I a conservative. That said, I find the same prevalent bias on both sides. Fox is as biased as MSNBC. They're just biased in opposite directions.
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Post by diamonds on Jan 7, 2012 19:21:42 GMT -5
I'm not a liberal, either, diamonds; nor, am I a conservative. That said, I find the same prevalent bias on both sides. Fox is as biased as MSNBC. They're just biased in opposite directions. mmhmm: Sure they are but that's our perogative to sort things out. Fox is clearly head and shoulders above the rest as they have a fair format. I do believe Bill gives eveyone he interviews a fair shake and feel he is Independent as well. His interviews are tough and he gave Santorum a rough go. He gave Barney Frank hell as was his due, and Romney and Clinton tough questions as well. I listen to the letters and hear what the American people have to say. The Five is great with Bob Beckel who is a staunch Obama supporter. I watch CNN also and enjoy that also. It's just a matter of preference.
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Post by diamonds on Jan 7, 2012 19:35:50 GMT -5
Guests come on to be interviewd by Bill. Why? Clearly, exposure and know they will be asked uncomfortable questions, and we want to see them all. Jay Carney obviously watches Fox as he has quoted them quite a few times, and the money markets and polls are updated daily.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 7, 2012 19:38:27 GMT -5
Guests come on to be interviewd by Bill. Why? Clearly, exposure and know they will be asked uncomfortable questions, and we want to see them all. Jay Carney obviously watches Fox as he has quoted them quite a few times, and the money markets and polls are updated daily. i thought he did a terrific job with Santorum. he really made him squirm. but i thought Santorum handled it pretty well. he is still having trouble with the Birth Control issue. i think it is going to dog him.
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Post by diamonds on Jan 7, 2012 19:44:56 GMT -5
Guests come on to be interviewd by Bill. Why? Clearly, exposure and know they will be asked uncomfortable questions, and we want to see them all. Jay Carney obviously watches Fox as he has quoted them quite a few times, and the money markets and polls are updated daily. i thought he did a terrific job with Santorum. he really made him squirm. but i thought Santorum handled it pretty well. he is still having trouble with the Birth Control issue. i think it is going to dog him. I can read Bill pretty well and I perceived he didn't like him. I think Bill was hard on him but Santorum did quite well under the heat. A few liberals were asked today who they fear the most that could possibly beat Obama and they said Romney. Oh, Ron Paul refused to go on as he knew he would be grilled on his Foreign Policy....lol...
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Post by SweetVirginia on Jan 7, 2012 19:46:22 GMT -5
SV: My true colors are admitting when I am wrong and I will admit it. I do not badger or troll someone for almost a page for an honest mistake they have made. I give credit where it is due, but I believe I do have a right to express my opinions as everyone else. I am not a liberal and do not care for the smearing by the liberal media. It is prevalent and biased. I do not nit-pick every candidate as there are none that are perfect. I want the best for my country as I have observed quite closely what is going on in this administration, which is lack of leadership and the excess of Federal spending which is reflective in our deficit. I do not push my beliefs on anyone, but am not shy to say what I believe in and those are my true colors. If you say so. Question? Where were you when George W. Bush and the republican controlled congress were spending our country (that you want the best for) into oblivion? Or did you just become concerned about the spending when Obama came into office?
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Post by diamonds on Jan 7, 2012 19:48:17 GMT -5
I'll tell you who is a tough interviewer, is Chris Wallace. He does not hold back on anything. He is most intimidating.
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Post by diamonds on Jan 7, 2012 19:52:19 GMT -5
>>>If you say so.>>>
SV: I have answered your accusations politely and do not care to go backwards. I am concerned about the present and the future. Fair enough?
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Post by zibazinski on Jan 7, 2012 19:55:08 GMT -5
Newt is unelectable. I don't know of a woman that will vote for him and without the woman vote, no chance.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jan 7, 2012 20:08:50 GMT -5
>>>If you say so.>>> SV: I have answered your accusations politely and do not care to go backwards. I am concerned about the present and the future. Fair enough? So we shouldn't expect to hear anything more about Rev. Wright?
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 7, 2012 20:12:24 GMT -5
Newt is unelectable. I don't know of a woman that will vote for him and without the woman vote, no chance. Speaker of the House and a 52 seat election victory say otherwise. What's Mitt done? The reason Newt and the GOP lost favor was not for being "too conservative" it was for wavering and wobbling-- which is still a concern. Mitt won't wobble. He's a liberal, if elected- he'll govern to the right of Obama, but he'll still govern left. There's a lot of room right of Obama on the left. I don't think 2012 is going to be about who is less extreme left. If Americans don't have a conservative choice, one will enter the race as a conservative-sounding populist and muck it up for the GOP, or in a two way race- people like me will just stay home. I'm not interested in pale pastels.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 7, 2012 20:13:04 GMT -5
My mom is a woman last I checked. So is my sister. They're on the Newt train.
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Post by SweetVirginia on Jan 7, 2012 20:13:16 GMT -5
>>>If you say so.>>> SV: I have answered your accusations politely and do not care to go backwards. I am concerned about the present and the future. Fair enough? No, but I'll let it go.
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