The Revolutionary War Was Paul Revere's Fault

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

I'm just following the same logic as those blaming the TEA Party for the credit downgrade.

If this had all happened in the wake of passing "Cut, Cap, & Balance" into law; perhaps there'd be a point to be made. But S&P stated specifically had that happened, there wouldn't have been a downgrade.

So, how is it some people can blame a movement that didn't get anything it wanted.

No, this is a Democrat - RINO problem now and it's going to be up to voters to deal with it in 2012.

And we will.

[floridayankee]

Aug 8, 2011 22:48:12 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

I'm just following the same logic as those blaming the TEA Party for the credit downgrade.

"Denial ain't just a river in Egypt."

People are willing to point fingers because it's easier than facing issues. It's a distraction used by the weak to kick the can further down the road rather than get off their collective backsides and do something.

We've had 50+ years of wasteful deficit spending and people want to blame the TP for the downgrade. I'm not even a member of this TP and I still think it's a completely idiotic conclusion to draw from the downgrade....IMHO of course.

Keep ignoring the message from S&P...maybe the problems will go away.

[privateinvestor]

The Revolutionary War Was Paul Revere's Fault


Was this what Sarah Palin was trying to say with her comments in Boston a few weeks ago???

[ugonow]

Perhaps the right wingers should not have claimed the tea party victorious in the debt limit talks.

[floridayankee]

Aug 9, 2011 10:06:27 GMT -5 ugonow said:

Perhaps the right wingers should not have claimed the tea party victorious in the debt limit talks.

Perhaps you can come up with something more useful than the typical cheap shots to add to the conversation?

[ugonow]

There is plenty of blame to go around.A couple of the big reasons S&P gave for their down grade was the holding of the debt limit hostage,and the very distinct possibility of it happening again. Tea party elected office holders were a big part of that.Dems prefered a clean bill. Another was the refusal of any sort of revenue increases,which dems wanted and tea party elected office holders were a large part of refusing..... They are not blameless.

[ugonow]

Perhaps you can come up with something more useful than the typical cheap shots to add to the conversation?

Like what, links to them claiming victory?blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2011/08/02/palin-calls-house-debt-vote-a-victory-for-tea-party/ ------www.freedomworks.org/blog/teda/the-tea-partys-victory-------www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/aug/2/gop-stands-victorious-as-smoke-clears/?page=all#pagebreak--------Now a video of cheering the downgrade would be a cheap shot------

[Mkitty is pro kitty]

The Revolutionary War Was Paul Revere's Fault

I'm just following the same logic as those blaming the TEA Party for the credit downgrade.

That would work if the Tea party people were only the messengers. Since they weren't you get a fail. Again. There's no disagreement as the message, but to the methods. But that's okay, just more Conservative cross-bearing; they playing the victim.

So, how is it some people can blame a movement that didn't get anything it wanted.

So then nobody should be charged for attempted murder? They didn't get everything they wanted either. And again, it was the method.

Also, because they didn't get everything, they must have got absolutely nothing. Po' pitful Tea Party!

No, this is a Democrat - RINO problem now and it's going to be up to voters to deal with it in 2012.
And we will.

"Disapproval Rate for Congress at Record 82% After Debt Talks"
www.nytimes.com/2011/08/05/us/politics/05poll.html?_r=1

Good luck with that. Guess who got most of the blame for this?

No, this is a Democrat - RINO problem now and it's going to be up to voters to deal with it in 2012.

And we will.

and people want to blame the TP for the downgrade

www.investmenteurope.net/investment-europe/research/2100119/reasons-credit-downgrade

"More broadly, the downgrade reflects our view that the effectiveness, stability, and predictability of American policymaking and political institutions have weakened at a time of ongoing fiscal and economic challenges to a degree more than we envisioned when we assigned a negative outlook to the rating on April 18, 2011."

"Since then, we have changed our view of the difficulties in bridging the gulf between the political parties over fiscal policy, which makes us pessimistic about the capacity of Congress and the Administration to be able to leverage their agreement this week into a broader fiscal consolidation plan that stabilizes the government's debt dynamics any time soon."

Isn't it a strange coincidence that for years, the debt ceiling was raised, but now that a big fuss was raised and compromise was "we're willing to go halfway on our own terms," and well, ever hear of the word consequence? This highlights the Tea Party's naivete. Oh, and let's shed a tear for the poor victims who held our country hostage You know, don't let a crisis go to waste and all that.

Yes, things should have been done, but Republicans only control the HoR. Sorry, in Reality-Land, you don't get everything you want, that's not how our democracy works.

[floridayankee]

Aug 9, 2011 10:14:48 GMT -5 ugonow said:

There is plenty of blame to go around.A couple of the big reasons S&P gave for their down grade was the holding of the debt limit hostage,and the very distinct of it happening again. Tea party elected office holders were a big part of that.Dems prefered a clean bill. Another was the refusal of any sort of revenue increases,which dems wanted and tea party elected office holders were a large part of refusing..... They are not blameless.

The TP didn't cause the problems that led to the downgrade. We've had 50+ years of deficit spending as well as 50+ years of tax increases AND tax decreases. It makes about as much sense to blame the TP for the downgrade as it does to blame Obama...or Bush...or Dems...or repubs.

Neither dems or repubs have had absolute control of everything for the last 50+ years. I certainly don't blame the TP backed politicians for the downgrade. If anything, I give them credit for making our problems an issue now rather than waiting until it's too late.. This has resulted in a friendly warning shot across the bow to tell us to change course before the torpedoes are fired. We really need to ask ourselves...was the message "Blame the TP" or was it "Change course now"?

[ugonow]

The TP didn't cause the problems that led to the downgrade.

Many of the elected officials that claim to be teaparty members have without a doubt added to the debt.To claim they haven't is just foolish.

[SweetVirginia]

Aug 8, 2011 22:48:12 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

I'm just following the same logic as those blaming the TEA Party for the credit downgrade.

If this had all happened in the wake of passing "Cut, Cap, & Balance" into law; perhaps there'd be a point to be made. But S&P stated specifically had that happened, there wouldn't have been a downgrade.

So, how is it some people can blame a movement that didn't get anything it wanted.

No, this is a Democrat - RINO problem now and it's going to be up to voters to deal with it in 2012.

And we will.

I think you just might be counting your chickens a bit early. A lot of people are blaming the extreme right for the debt ceiling fiasco. Whether or not that blame is warranted, the extreme right is being blamed. You do not have 2012 in the bag just yet, imo.

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The Revolutionary War Was Paul Revere's Fault

Paul I GET IT & I LOVE IT.

It could really be expanded on easily. How about?

WWII was Polands fault!

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