69% Say Scientists "Likley" Faked Climate Research

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Including a majority- 51% of Democrats. This is significant progress...

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69% Say It’s Likely Scientists Have Falsified Global Warming Research

The debate over global warming has intensified in recent weeks after a new NASA study was interpreted by skeptics to reveal that global warming is not man-made. While a majority of Americans nationwide continue to acknowledge significant disagreement about global warming in the scientific community, most go even further to say some scientists falsify data to support their own beliefs.

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey of American Adults shows that 69% say it’s at least somewhat likely that some scientists have falsified research data in order to support their own theories and beliefs, including 40% who say this is Very Likely. Twenty-two percent (22%) don’t think it’s likely some scientists have falsified global warming data, including just six percent (6%) say it’s Not At All Likely. Another 10% are undecided. (To see survey question wording, click here .)

The number of adults who say it’s likely scientists have falsified data is up 10 points from December 2009 .

Fifty-seven percent (57%) believe there is significant disagreement within the scientific community on global warming, up five points from late 2009. One in four (25%) believes scientists agree on global warming. Another 18% aren’t sure.

Republicans and adults not affiliated with either major political party feel stronger than Democrats that some scientists have falsified data to support their global warming theories, but 51% of Democrats also agree.

Men are more likely than women to believe some scientists have put out false information on the issue.

Democrats are more likely to support immediate action on global warming compared to those from other party affiliations.

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[EVT1]

"69% Say It’s Likely Scientists Have Falsified Global Warming Research"

Very misleading- but expected.

"The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey of American Adults shows that 69% say it’s at least somewhat likely that some scientists have falsified research data in order to support their own theories and beliefs, including 40% who say this is Very Likely.

All in how you word the question isn't it. I find it very likely that some scientists have falsified global warming data- namely the ones working for oil companies and the host of other groups out to try and convince the public that it is in dispute. Those would be included in the question too, no?

[Angel!]

Aug 4, 2011 14:25:53 GMT -5 EVT1 said:

"69% Say It’s Likely Scientists Have Falsified Global Warming Research"

Very misleading- but expected.

"The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey of American Adults shows that 69% say it’s at least somewhat likely that some scientists have falsified research data in order to support their own theories and beliefs, including 40% who say this is Very Likely.

All in how you word the question isn't it. I find it very likely that some scientists have falsified global warming data- namely the ones working for oil companies and the host of other groups out to try and convince the public that it is in dispute. Those would be included in the question too, no?

Yeah, I caught that too & debated commenting on it. Believing that some scientists (on either side) may have falsified data isn't the same as saying global warming is a hoax.

I don't doubt there was a scientist or two that tried to falsify data - this occurs in every field of study. I don't believe that the majority of scientists did such a thing, nor do I believe global warming is a hoax.

[EVT1]

All wording. In another poll 75% of people say it is at least somewhat likely that some priests molest young boys. Does that mean 75% of people think priests are child molesters?

Anyone seen a poll where a majority of the people think global warming is a hoax (Fox viewer/talk radio blowhard listener polls not withstanding)?

[floridayankee]

Aug 4, 2011 14:52:40 GMT -5 Angel! said:

... nor do I believe global warming is a hoax.

At one point in time the globe was a sea of molten lava. Another point in time, we were a ball of ice flying around the sun. I really doubt people think global warming or global cooling is a hoax.

[EVT1]

The easier path of course is to ignore it and live for the present- let the Earth do what it does and worst case it shrugs us off. Maybe it is for the best- extinct our flawed species and try again down the road. Funny thing about it is I thought the conservatives were all for personal responsibility and planning for the future- but I guess that only applies when they are pointing the finger at the poor- it certainly doesn't apply to the corporations they run and are run by- there short term gains are the norm and any form of responsibility to anything goes out the window, regardless of the costs to society or the environment.

[jkapp]

Aug 4, 2011 15:28:29 GMT -5 EVT1 said:

The easier path of course is to ignore it and live for the present- let the Earth do what it does and worst case it shrugs us off. Maybe it is for the best- extinct our flawed species and try again down the road. Funny thing about it is I thought the conservatives were all for personal responsibility and planning for the future- but I guess that only applies when they are pointing the finger at the poor- it certainly doesn't apply to the corporations they run and are run by- there short term gains are the norm and any form of responsibility to anything goes out the window, regardless of the costs to society or the environment.

Why not...its how the left wants to treat our economy...and whats a future with a dead economy?

[Don Perignon]

"Cognitive dissonance" is a bizarre phenomenon. Those who have decided to ignore reality and embrace delusion are difficult to dissuade from that course.

[verrip1]

Aug 4, 2011 17:07:42 GMT -5 Don Perignon said:

"Cognitive dissonance" is a bizarre phenomenon. Those who have decided to ignore reality and embrace delusion are difficult to dissuade from that course.

That's a safe thing to write. It's just that there are primarily two sides, each of whom are absolutely certain that the other side has cognitive dissonance, aka Kool Aid drinking.

Personally, I think both those sides are correct.

[EVT1]

It's like this- the far right wants industry free from regulation so it can shit into the environment at will, the far left wants industry to not make shit in the first place. Then there are the rest of us who understand that we all are gonna have to live with some shit but see the need for proper shit regulation.

[djAdvocate]

Aug 4, 2011 14:25:53 GMT -5 EVT1 said:

"69% Say It’s Likely Scientists Have Falsified Global Warming Research"

Very misleading- but expected.

"The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey of American Adults shows that 69% say it’s at least somewhat likely that some scientists have falsified research data in order to support their own theories and beliefs, including 40% who say this is Very Likely.

All in how you word the question isn't it. I find it very likely that some scientists have falsified global warming data- namely the ones working for oil companies and the host of other groups out to try and convince the public that it is in dispute. Those would be included in the question too, no?

WHAT??? RASUMUSSEN SLANTED A POLL RESULT TO FOLLOW A CONSERVATIVE IDEALOGICAL BEND?? I HAVE NEVER HEARD OF SUCH AN OUTRAGEOUS ASSERTION!!!!

(sarcasm off)

[verrip1]

Aug 4, 2011 17:58:14 GMT -5 EVT1 said:

It's like this- the far right wants industry free from regulation so it can shit into the environment at will, the far left wants industry to not make shit in the first place. Then there are the rest of us who understand that we all are gonna have to live with some shit but see the need for proper shit regulation.

I agree. Your posts are full of shit.

[diamonds]

Aug 4, 2011 20:51:19 GMT -5 verrip1 said:

Aug 4, 2011 17:58:14 GMT -5 EVT1 said:

It's like this- the far right wants industry free from regulation so it can shit into the environment at will, the far left wants industry to not make shit in the first place. Then there are the rest of us who understand that we all are gonna have to live with some shit but see the need for proper shit regulation.

I agree. Your posts are full of shit.

ha...ha..verrip...

[Virgil Showlion]

The results are consistent with the poll I ran here on P&M a month or so back.

[Don Perignon]

The kind of facetious people who would proffer fake climate data are likely the same people who would offer insincere "happy birthday wishes" to President Obama.
See:
notmsnmoney.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=politics&action=display&thread=12100
("Topic: Happy Birthday Mr President (Read 173 times)" )

[billisonboard]

Polling the general population on global warming makes as much sense as polling the general population on what part to replace on your vehicle if it isn't running. I don't have the background to make critical assessments of the research. I don't have the interest in gaining that background and then doing the critical assessments necessary to make an informed decision on the topic. I elect people to do that heavy lifting for me.

[floridayankee]

Aug 4, 2011 17:58:14 GMT -5 EVT1 said:

It's like this- the far right wants industry free from regulation so it can shit into the environment at will...

Project much? The right is pure evil incarnate.....lmao.

Silly liberal delusions.

[Deleted]

Aug 4, 2011 21:57:24 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Polling the general population on global warming makes as much sense as polling the general population on what part to replace on your vehicle if it isn't running. I don't have the background to make critical assessments of the research.

As with most of the proponents here for global warming.

[billisonboard]

Aug 5, 2011 8:51:19 GMT -5 @jma23 said:

Aug 4, 2011 21:57:24 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Polling the general population on global warming makes as much sense as polling the general population on what part to replace on your vehicle if it isn't running. I don't have the background to make critical assessments of the research.

As with most of the proponents and dissenters here for global warming.

[bimetalaupt]

Aug 4, 2011 14:52:40 GMT -5 Angel! said:

Aug 4, 2011 14:25:53 GMT -5 EVT1 said:

"69% Say It�s Likely Scientists Have Falsified Global Warming Research"

Very misleading- but expected.

"The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey of American Adults shows that 69% say it�s at least somewhat likely that some scientists have falsified research data in order to support their own theories and beliefs, including 40% who say this is Very Likely.

All in how you word the question isn't it. I find it very likely that some scientists have falsified global warming data- namely the ones working for oil companies and the host of other groups out to try and convince the public that it is in dispute. Those would be included in the question too, no?

Yeah, I caught that too & debated commenting on it. Believing that some scientists (on either side) may have falsified data isn't the same as saying global warming is a hoax.

I don't doubt there was a scientist or two that tried to falsify data - this occurs in every field of study. I don't believe that the majority of scientists did such a thing, nor do I believe global warming is a hoax.

Angel,
The real problem is that nature is some much stronger then man.. We could correct man actions 100% and get slammed with a super Volcano that would put the world into a 10 year winter and Freeze the food and energy system by blocking the sun.. No wood and No rice etc..

The relationship of global warming to CO2 is Global warming leads CO2 increase by some 500-1000 years .. to numbers like 1,500 vs the 350 we see today.. ETC Histor for the last billion pears has this cycle nine time.. We are past due!! Yellow stone could be the real thing.
Just a thought,
Bi Metal Au Pt

[Mkitty is pro kitty]

69% Say Scientists "Likley" Faked Climate Research

Here's a fun experiment to try. Next time you have a medical condition, don't see a doctor or any medical expert, but set up a poll. Call a bunch of people, tell them your conditions, and follow the advice of the majority. Any takers?

[Deleted]

At one point in time the globe was a sea of molten lava. Another point in time, we were a ball of ice flying around the sun.

[floridayankee]

Aug 5, 2011 9:14:19 GMT -5 bimetalaupt said:

The real problem is that nature is some much stronger then man.. We could correct man actions 100% and get slammed with a super Volcano that would put the world into a 10 year winter and Freeze the food and energy system by blocking the sun.. No wood and No rice etc.

Mother nature is always stronger than man. Thankfully she doesn't always flex her muscles. As far as the "man-made global warming believers go, look at the bright side. The globe is much cleaner than it was during the industrial revolution. Not because of global warming fear mongering, but for environmental concerns...aka cleaner air/water/land....and it we as a planet of people will continually improve on that. As it does, co2 reductions will occur.

Unless you favor forcing people to live like the Amish, none of this will happen over night no matter how many global crisis alarms are rung. If we're not moving fast enough towards a completely green society, by all means, invest your time, energy, and money into finding more green solutions and speed up the process.

[Deleted]

Aug 5, 2011 8:59:12 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Aug 5, 2011 8:51:19 GMT -5 @jma23 said:

As with most of the proponents and dissenters here for global warming.

Over the years, man has quite the fixation with controlling the weather and nature. When the bigger government and more taxes liberals start to use this weather control fixation as another tax revenue source (Cap and trade anyone) the more educated dissenters will start to speak up. Nasa for one. It wasn't that long ago that all the scientists were predicting that we were starting the next ice age. All the headlines, the hype, the worry. We're all going to freeze to death. Now it's heat. This too shall pass, hopefully with no economy destroying legislation. I wonder what the next grandstanding chicken little (Gore) is going to come up with.