we have cealings on our budget..and in Israel it's Cottage cheese..however , in many ways all similer.
I am posting a post from a thread from another zone, one that is specific to Palastinians, Israeli's ..but on this topic , it is nothing to do with Palastinian and Israeli problems. More the problems of what we have here and in all the devloped countries, the gap between those who have and those who have not..something that I am wondering if we won't see more of here, Tea Party or no TP, as social services are cut, the Gap becomes greater..and possible those who have not become more frustrated, as it seems these israeli's are becoming, and the Gap widens between the two parties.
The haves and the have nots..possible a similer ocuurence and interesting to me, hopefully to a few others.
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My post on other zone, thread.
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Just to give a different tone to the discussions here, I am posting a post from a thread of a entirely different zone, no not the old pro board site, but a site where Israeli / Palastinian topics are discussed..
The first post was from a Canadian , referring to economic issues in Canada , how similer in many ways to what is happening in Israel today, the gap between those who have and those who haven't.
The articles posted have nothing to do with Palastinian issues, there is more to a country then just one issue.
Here Israel has a problem , as we do here and also the same problem found in most of the developed countries of the world and it's bad enough to get a 100,000 people out in the streets demonstrating.., remember the population of Jews in the State is under 7 million, so 100,000 plus in the streets and growing, is a big deal, and many articles written and discussed in their different media outlets as well as the attention of the government itself..
thought some here might be interested in a change of pace that is simmiler to what is being discussed here too.
Economics, governmeent intervention, should it get involved or shouldn't, and even though they, government , would possible rather not be involved, take actions, , political considerations when this many people are demonstrating unhappiness with policies, to ignore, as it was here too with the melt down, banking problems, Auto Industry, corruption on wall street, not a realistic approach, if the ones in power want to stay in power, so they do get involved, even if the problem is a dairy product, Cottage Cheese, but it is more then just that product, it is a much larger problem and it should be interesting to see how they deal with it..the gap, between those who have, those who do not. Especially if those who do not are so organized,vocal and dedicated, possible a window into our future here?
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Originally Posted by CJ 2.0
I see. Very helpful. it was my understanding that israel had a fairly well developed competition law regime.
With respect to cottage cheese and/or other milk products, the question I need to ask is why prices went so high. were subsidies removed from the sale? Is production limited in any way? As I noted, in Canada the prices of these things are ridiculously high because the federal governmetn imposed a supply management system that limits output. I also would add that in Europe they have the opposite (and also ridiculous) problem, where they don't use supply management but instead use subsidies. Subsidies encourage over-production which results in milk product prices being well below where they should be in a free market. Great for me when I travelled through as there were always dirt cheap cheeses and yoghurts and the like to eat, but ultimately a fairly signioficant drain on economic efficiency and overall welfare.
Israel faces a problem similar (but worse in many ways) to Canada, in that it is a small economy that can only sustain a limited number of efficient domestic producers. And while both our economies are open, our proximity to the US and or trading ties with the US likely are more substantial than yours with Europe, while you do basically no material trade with your geogrpahically proximite neighbours. So, for example, you likely would have difficulty justifying the build-out of more than two wirelsss networks and various other fixed infrastructure. But again, regulation is more likely to impede growth and improved welfare than to foster it, particularly where it makes it mroe difficult for new entrants to innovate and establish themselves.
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For no other reason then curiosity I did some googling, Cottage Cheese, Israel , yadda yadda and came upon some interesting articles and this one seems to be one , that while Cottage Cheese is mentioned , the over all tone of the article is interesting to one who is not a ciitizen of the State but interested in the welfare and success of the State, even though a few posters here think other wise, and no I didn't vent the media source the article came from, or the author , so have no idea if it is a slanted media source, the author has his own axe to grind.
I just took it as it was presented. There are problems in this paradise , that most are not aware of, seeming similer to problems now occuring in all of modern societies, USA, Europe, developed countries, the gap between those who have it and those who don't, and the frustrations of those who don't and no one seems to really have the answer..beyond more government interaction which then leads to even greater problems..
I do hope some here now don't accuse me of bringing up a topic better left silent, as it shows a negative side of the State, yet hasd nothing to do with the larger well known problems of relationships between Palastinianss and those who are not Palastinians
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Jaffa -
" Diplomatic isolation isn't dominating the news agenda in Israel these days. Neither is the lack of any peace process with the Palestinians. Today everybody seems to be talking about the so-called “cottage cheese scandal," the top item in the local news for more than two weeks.
The price of cottage cheese has jumped by nearly 40 percent over the past three years in Israel. For many Israelis this price hike was too much - and similar to popular mobilization in the rest of the Middle East - they organized on Facebook: More than 100,000 people today support an online-petition to boycott supermarkets and dairies claiming “outrageous prices.”
Along with other heads of state in the region, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is starting to feel the heat, albeit in a slightly less threatening way, from the grassroots protests. In a recent meeting of his cabinet ministers, he demanded “quick and immediate solutions.”
