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Post by deziloooooo on Jul 26, 2011 8:09:57 GMT -5
to be a way out of this mess..temporarily...that is if the "Tea Party " goes along with the speaker..if not, then it seems we have a problem. ------------------------------------------------- news.yahoo.com/blogs/exclusive/washington-struggles-over-debt-crisis-obama-stays-mum-043411132.html-------------------------------------------------- [Click on link to read whole article] -------------------------------------------------- .........As Washington struggles over debt crisis, Obama stays mum on veto threat ..By National Journal . By Major Garrett National Journal "Washington may have become, as President Obama said on Monday, a place where "compromise has become a dirty word," but in the context of the menacing debt-limit crisis there was a far dirtier word he didn't utter. Veto. While Obama warned House Speaker John Boehner not to turn Americans into "collateral damage," he did not vow to veto the bill Boehner's now pushing to lift the debt ceiling by $1 trillion (good for six months). Boehner's two-step process would impose $1.2 trillion in spending cuts and establish a select congressional commission to propose an additional $1.8 trillion in savings by Thanksgiving. If Republican leaders were sifting through Obama's speech for one word it was "veto." Its absence gives Obama, Boehner, and the Senate room to maneuver if, as now appears likely, Boehner's bill squeaks through the House and arrives in the Senate as a viable, though less-than-optimal, alternative to default."
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Post by Value Buy on Jul 26, 2011 8:18:34 GMT -5
Change. It is a coming.......
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Post by rockon on Jul 26, 2011 8:27:15 GMT -5
Oscillating back and forth between Democrat and Republican Presidents and congress majorities is not change, it is what has been happening for quite a few decades and the results are obvious in our economic position. If we really want to make change in our direction we need voters to keep speeching up at the polls and we need to continue to sending people to Washington who will stand up and influence the way things are done there. Kudos to the Tea Party and any other organization willing to take these tough positions and stick with them.
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Post by Value Buy on Jul 26, 2011 8:41:23 GMT -5
Oscillating back and forth between Democrat and Republican Presidents and congress majorities is not change, it is what has been happening for quite a few decades and the results are obvious in our economic position. If we really want to make change in our direction we need voters to keep speeching up at the polls and we need to continue to sending people to Washington who will stand up and influence the way things are done there. Kudos to the Tea Party and any other organization willing to take these tough positions and stick with them. Agree, but the Tea Party is a game changer. I can only hope we elect many more in 2012, and they do not fall into the Newt Gringcich trap of the Clinton Administration days, when they realized they were now in charge, and became raving Democrats.
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Post by rockon on Jul 26, 2011 9:54:31 GMT -5
The Tea Party influence has been much greater then either party thought it would be and I also hope we elect more of them. Unless we get rid of the monopoly the Republicans and Democrats have on our country our direction will never change and life in these United States as we knew it will be gone. I don't have a problem with voting for someone from either party as long as they are independent minded, they recognize and acknowledge the seriousness of our problem and are willing to vote against their party to make the required changes.
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Post by BeenThere...DoneThat... on Jul 26, 2011 16:10:54 GMT -5
...hey, dez... POTUS didn't use the word, "veto," but he did use a whole lot of other words that make me think that he's not pointing to a way out of this mess... for example, the fact that he used the word, "default," was bad enough...
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Post by humok on Jul 26, 2011 19:34:43 GMT -5
default means deeper recession and maybe even depression but so does the debt continuing to climb with no way to pay it off...which is worse we will never know but we will experience one or the other....It is inevitable with the decision making idiots we have in Washington.
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Post by Value Buy on Jul 27, 2011 8:45:14 GMT -5
Ah, yesterday the White House used the "veto" word loud and clear for Boehmer's proposal. Hell they didn't even wait for the Senate to say "no". Now that is real political compromise.
Call the President's bluff.
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Post by safeharbor37 on Jul 27, 2011 12:11:48 GMT -5
Compromise makes a good umbrella, but a poor roof; it is a temporary expedient, often wise in party politics, almost sure to be unwise in statesmanship. James Russell Lowell, Bigelow Papers, 1867
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Post by Value Buy on Jul 28, 2011 22:03:06 GMT -5
Well, right now we do not know if there are enough Tea Party votes to get the bill out of the House. Of course, the Senate has said they will vote no. The White House has said no.
I guess this makes the Democratic Party, the new Party of NO. How times have changed........And Obama did promise us change, with a little bit of hope, thrown in, although, all hope has gone by the wayside........... Abandon all hope for ye who enter the world of politics.
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